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07 May 2017, 2:42 pm

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So being against globalism and being for self governance is fascism


A french court ruled a couple of years back that she is allowed to be called a fascist as her politics are one of fascism.


What is, in your definition, fascism then? What about Le Pen makes her a fascist?



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07 May 2017, 2:55 pm

Jacoby wrote:
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Jacoby wrote:
So being against globalism and being for self governance is fascism


A french court ruled a couple of years back that she is allowed to be called a fascist as her politics are one of fascism.


What is, in your definition, fascism then? What about Le Pen makes her a fascist?


Moot point when a court has already ruled her officially a fascist.



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07 May 2017, 4:37 pm

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So being against globalism and being for self governance is fascism? The fascists are the financiers that wish to rule the entire planet.

Europe is already dead, it's security situation will deteriorate further especially if they continue to import millions of refugees and have open borders. Will France actually just learn to live terrorist attacks as every day occurrences? Apparently things haven't gotten bad enough yet for them to know, Marine Le Pen is only 49 and can run again and her daughter is very popular as well so I don't think we have heard the last from them. What is Macron going to do to solve the situation?


No, fascism is nationalism taken to the extreme to where the citizens of an ethnic or religious minority are suddenly the enemy alien, and where the rest of society is whipped up into a frenzy against them. At least that's fascism in part, and La Penn fits that to a tee.


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07 May 2017, 5:15 pm

Macron is the new president!


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07 May 2017, 5:30 pm

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Macron is the new president!


The French aren't as dumb as we are.


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08 May 2017, 12:45 am

Kraichgauer wrote:
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Macron is the new president!


The French aren't as dumb as we are.


Trump vs Hillary. Bieng "smarter" than that is nothing to brag about.


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08 May 2017, 1:57 am

ASPartOfMe wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Tim_Tex wrote:
Macron is the new president!


The French aren't as dumb as we are.


Trump vs Hillary. Bieng "smarter" than that is nothing to brag about.


Point taken.


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08 May 2017, 4:45 pm

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Macron like Hillary likes to throw out accusations of fearmongering but that's their entire argument against Le Pen and the idea of leaving the EU. The economy will collapse, there will be civil war, it will be the end of democracy, yadayadayada. If the French are not ready for Le Pen then perhaps a few more years of terror with no end in sight will change that.



Every empire demands a certain degree of unity, freedom and discipline in order for it to create a leading hand in all its goals.
Mabe a fasicst democracy is what is keeping France afloat right now and direct miscommunication from the socialists have interpreted all the main reasons why, sanctioning off your allies is not a good idea to strive on when the current organisation tying it all together is about to fall apart.
I can see why Le Pen found it hard to defeat a ghost of a man in Macron. He's probably still living with everlasting revolutions all night; wondering when the candle has been blown out who will sacrifice the next redemption of martyrdom and humankind.
The silly little mackerel didn't even take to the stand straight away, letting the older more experienced woman do all the work, I hope the people know just how far they've got to lose, because a chaperone on borderline fear marks the latest exit tactic.



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09 May 2017, 2:22 am

She lost, get over it.



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09 May 2017, 2:38 pm

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She lost, get over it.


Let's just hope that's the fate for the rest of the populist/fascist movement.
To paraphrase the latest Mad Max movie: "Our sons will not grow up to be Strongmen!"


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13 May 2017, 4:35 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
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She lost, get over it.


Let's just hope that's the fate for the rest of the populist/fascist movement.
To paraphrase the latest Mad Max movie: "Our sons will not grow up to be Strongmen!"
Or male Jedhi homeopaths looking for ways to exploit Frances male dominated assets in the way most assexuals in the country lead their men to freedom. Or horses to martyrdom, I'm just glad I have a family who doesn't get involved in slander from the far right or socialist extreme left. It's a bit like Corbyn looking for a helping hand with helping himself to the old proceeds if the far right lose momentum, something I hope doesn't happen. I want to be part of a democratic union not a war relic from the past that idolises a supreme government.