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13 Feb 2022, 11:57 am

I hope this doesn't lead to a nuclear war. Surely Putin isn't that much of a homicidal maniac.



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13 Feb 2022, 12:28 pm

Every war has its songs. With this one approaching...we better start singing them NOW!






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13 Feb 2022, 12:54 pm

I really liked the Tom Lehrer lps my parents had.




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13 Feb 2022, 5:54 pm

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Probably time for compromise. NATO knew full well for a long, long time it would irritate Russia if they shoved bases and troops so close to them.


NATO hardly shoved membership on Russia's neighbors. Rather, countries like Poland and Ukraine historically have fear of Russian expansion. And as Putin has made it clear, he does not recognize Ukraine as a separate country, but as a part of Russia, regardless of what Ukrainians think.


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13 Feb 2022, 9:26 pm

you're both right. We promised old Gorby that we wouldnt expand NATO to his borders.

The trouble is that all of the nations ON Russia's border (except Belarus) fear Russia, and they all immediately banged on the door of NATO and demanded to be allowed in.

So there in lies the rub.



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13 Feb 2022, 9:41 pm

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Biden Could Deploy 50,000 Troops if Putin Overruns Ukraine

And 2 of my nephews are among them. :| :(


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14 Feb 2022, 1:20 am

Interesting to see how seriously the threat of "Severe Consequences" made in December was taken, given Mr Biden was "absolutely confident" that Mr Putin got the message...


As a side note, if what was said is to be believed, troops would only be deployed if Nato become involved in combat actions.



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14 Feb 2022, 1:30 am

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Interesting to see how seriously the threat of "Severe Consequences" made in December was taken, given Mr Biden was "absolutely confident" that Mr Putin got the message...


As a side note, if what was said is to be believed, troops would only be deployed if Nato become involved in combat actions.


Putin hasn't made a move yet, so it's impossible to say if Biden's failed.
Were this Trump, he'd be justifying Putin's aggression.


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14 Feb 2022, 1:46 am

Kraichgauer wrote:
Brictoria wrote:
Interesting to see how seriously the threat of "Severe Consequences" made in December was taken, given Mr Biden was "absolutely confident" that Mr Putin got the message...


As a side note, if what was said is to be believed, troops would only be deployed if Nato become involved in combat actions.


Putin hasn't made a move yet, so it's impossible to say if Biden's failed.
Were this Trump, he'd be justifying Putin's aggression.


And yet he has only been aggressive either before, or after, Mr Trump was President, but not during that time.

Looked at objectively, you'd expect Mr Putin to be more aggressive when he believed he would face less risk\pushback for his actions (and so could more easily get what he wants), than when he would expect to face more risk\pushback for those actions(and so have a harder time getting what he wants)...

Or, in simpler terms: Does a bully cause problems for those who would be likely to stand up to them, or to those they see as weaker than them\more likely to abide by the bully's directions?



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14 Feb 2022, 2:11 am

Brictoria wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Brictoria wrote:
Interesting to see how seriously the threat of "Severe Consequences" made in December was taken, given Mr Biden was "absolutely confident" that Mr Putin got the message...


As a side note, if what was said is to be believed, troops would only be deployed if Nato become involved in combat actions.


Putin hasn't made a move yet, so it's impossible to say if Biden's failed.
Were this Trump, he'd be justifying Putin's aggression.


And yet he has only been aggressive either before, or after, Mr Trump was President, but not during that time.

Looked at objectively, you'd expect Mr Putin to be more aggressive when he believed he would face less risk\pushback for his actions (and so could more easily get what he wants), than when he would expect to face more risk\pushback for those actions(and so have a harder time getting what he wants)...

Or, in simpler terms: Does a bully cause problems for those who would be likely to stand up to them, or to those they see as weaker than them\more likely to abide by the bully's directions?


Russia was becoming involved in Syria in the Trump years, and had put bounties on the heads of American service men and women. Trump defended his pal.


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14 Feb 2022, 10:30 am

Putin will do what is best for him.
Dozing Eggplant cant find his adult diapers.



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14 Feb 2022, 11:13 am

Kraichgauer wrote:
Brictoria wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Brictoria wrote:
Interesting to see how seriously the threat of "Severe Consequences" made in December was taken, given Mr Biden was "absolutely confident" that Mr Putin got the message...


As a side note, if what was said is to be believed, troops would only be deployed if Nato become involved in combat actions.


Putin hasn't made a move yet, so it's impossible to say if Biden's failed.
Were this Trump, he'd be justifying Putin's aggression.


And yet he has only been aggressive either before, or after, Mr Trump was President, but not during that time.

Looked at objectively, you'd expect Mr Putin to be more aggressive when he believed he would face less risk\pushback for his actions (and so could more easily get what he wants), than when he would expect to face more risk\pushback for those actions(and so have a harder time getting what he wants)...

Or, in simpler terms: Does a bully cause problems for those who would be likely to stand up to them, or to those they see as weaker than them\more likely to abide by the bully's directions?


Russia was becoming involved in Syria in the Trump years, and had put bounties on the heads of American service men and women. Trump defended his pal.


There was never any conclusive evidence that Russia put bounties on American soldiers.


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14 Feb 2022, 3:25 pm

VegetableMan wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Brictoria wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Brictoria wrote:
Interesting to see how seriously the threat of "Severe Consequences" made in December was taken, given Mr Biden was "absolutely confident" that Mr Putin got the message...


As a side note, if what was said is to be believed, troops would only be deployed if Nato become involved in combat actions.


Putin hasn't made a move yet, so it's impossible to say if Biden's failed.
Were this Trump, he'd be justifying Putin's aggression.


And yet he has only been aggressive either before, or after, Mr Trump was President, but not during that time.

Looked at objectively, you'd expect Mr Putin to be more aggressive when he believed he would face less risk\pushback for his actions (and so could more easily get what he wants), than when he would expect to face more risk\pushback for those actions(and so have a harder time getting what he wants)...

Or, in simpler terms: Does a bully cause problems for those who would be likely to stand up to them, or to those they see as weaker than them\more likely to abide by the bully's directions?


Russia was becoming involved in Syria in the Trump years, and had put bounties on the heads of American service men and women. Trump defended his pal.


There was never any conclusive evidence that Russia put bounties on American soldiers.


According to who?


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14 Feb 2022, 3:27 pm

FairyFox wrote:
Putin will do what is best for him.
Dozing Eggplant cant find his adult diapers.


What Putin thinks is best for him includes leaving a trail of corpses in his wake.
Seriously, what is this worship of Putin at the detriment of our own President by the right?


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14 Feb 2022, 3:42 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
VegetableMan wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Brictoria wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Brictoria wrote:
Interesting to see how seriously the threat of "Severe Consequences" made in December was taken, given Mr Biden was "absolutely confident" that Mr Putin got the message...


As a side note, if what was said is to be believed, troops would only be deployed if Nato become involved in combat actions.


Putin hasn't made a move yet, so it's impossible to say if Biden's failed.
Were this Trump, he'd be justifying Putin's aggression.


And yet he has only been aggressive either before, or after, Mr Trump was President, but not during that time.

Looked at objectively, you'd expect Mr Putin to be more aggressive when he believed he would face less risk\pushback for his actions (and so could more easily get what he wants), than when he would expect to face more risk\pushback for those actions(and so have a harder time getting what he wants)...

Or, in simpler terms: Does a bully cause problems for those who would be likely to stand up to them, or to those they see as weaker than them\more likely to abide by the bully's directions?


Russia was becoming involved in Syria in the Trump years, and had put bounties on the heads of American service men and women. Trump defended his pal.


There was never any conclusive evidence that Russia put bounties on American soldiers.


According to who?


Sleepy Joe himself:

https://apnews.com/article/joe-biden-do ... 160af2da42


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14 Feb 2022, 3:55 pm

VegetableMan wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
VegetableMan wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Brictoria wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Brictoria wrote:
Interesting to see how seriously the threat of "Severe Consequences" made in December was taken, given Mr Biden was "absolutely confident" that Mr Putin got the message...


As a side note, if what was said is to be believed, troops would only be deployed if Nato become involved in combat actions.


Putin hasn't made a move yet, so it's impossible to say if Biden's failed.
Were this Trump, he'd be justifying Putin's aggression.


And yet he has only been aggressive either before, or after, Mr Trump was President, but not during that time.

Looked at objectively, you'd expect Mr Putin to be more aggressive when he believed he would face less risk\pushback for his actions (and so could more easily get what he wants), than when he would expect to face more risk\pushback for those actions(and so have a harder time getting what he wants)...

Or, in simpler terms: Does a bully cause problems for those who would be likely to stand up to them, or to those they see as weaker than them\more likely to abide by the bully's directions?


Russia was becoming involved in Syria in the Trump years, and had put bounties on the heads of American service men and women. Trump defended his pal.


There was never any conclusive evidence that Russia put bounties on American soldiers.


According to who?


Sleepy Joe himself:

https://apnews.com/article/joe-biden-do ... 160af2da42


You believe Biden on that point.


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