Should kurds have a country?

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Not that I support ISIS but isn't the goal of islam the creation of Daru-es-salaam or abode of peace? since islam and Arab culture are intertwined then naming the town Ain al-Islam is not in conflict with Arabic culture.

not legally speaking they are not

The Kurds are divided between 4 different nations. One of them is desperate to join the E.U. and get financially accredited, one is in a crippling multi-dimensional civil war, another is desperately trying to reclaim land conquered by a horde of terrorists, and the fourth has a crippling economy due to international sanctions and isolation. The Kurds meanwhile have many friends in high places and have an army capable of standing its ground against any invading force, with the west watching them with keen interest and would probably support their claims to sovereignty. It looks likely that the Kurds will have a piecemeal state very soon( if Iran and Turkey denied their statehood in their respective countries, then the kurds could still easily create a state in Syria and Iraq, and then they'd only have to wait before all their other pieces would snap together.)

The Kurds fit all the criteria you mention. Which is exactly why I think they will get a state soon.

should kurds have a country, well hate to burst anybodys bubble but, as long as we are alive we have not only have a country but we got a planet. ohhh but you havent signed any treaties ohhh you arent going to be recognised ohhhh ohhhh ohhhh. well ladies and gentleman i didnt know that being part of a different culture or being born in a certain area was a crime. do you think i need somebodys permission to be kurdish. any the treaty i signed up for was when i was in my mothers stomach and it was to love till my very last breath and then some. so our arms will always be open for any race to live under one condition that we be brothers in arms that we share our food our music our love our passion our women our children our ......................life.

Are you an actual Kurdish person?

The kurds were purposely split up between the current countries, by the U.S., UK, and France (victors of WWI), to punish them for supporting the Ottomans to the extent they did.

They were actively denied their own country, when WWI allies drew up the post WWI map.
Even Turkey was originally intended to be made a special colony joint governed by a UK and France via an international council.
Hell the British and French had a plan to divide up all Turkish industries and companies between their own companies.
The only reason why failed to implement this deal, was that Ataturk led military was willing to fight to the death and was unwilling to allow the annexation of Turkey to occur.
The UK and France were unwilling to expend the massive resources needed, so Ataturk won after a few very bloody battles, forcing a renegotiations of the terms that led to the current Turkey.

Though to be fair, the UK, U.S. and France went to great lengths to redraw the post WWI map based on culture, linguistics, economics and population.

Now will the kurds get their own country? Not likely... though Iraq will probably split up with each portion becoming their own country or joining other countries.

The Kurdish Northern part will form its own country, but it will be short lived when NATO forces lead by Turkey invade.
NATO made a deal after Gulf War I with Turkey to prevent the establishment of Kurdistan from the split up of Iraq at all costs.

Even if the Iraqi Kurds won, they'd be economically and politically sanctioned by the UN and NATO to hell and back that would prevent them from making a successful country thanks to the deals with Turkey!

In the end the Kurds made a very big mistake when they fought the Allies of WWI, this why they will never have their own country.

there are battles being fought everyday, the biggest battle one can fight is with himself. to stand up to all human rights big or small, it is stilla violation of somebodys rights. what goes up must come down, you could be a really strong threat to other countries but look what history tells us , with hitler gengis khan, the ottomans. all were strong but they had there rise, then they had there fall. so if you notice the kurds dont want extra land. and if you pay real close attention they dont even want to be part of the group because they know nothing lasts forever, the pain of loosing a loved one cripples you to your very knees and like you dont want to go threw that pain, we wouldnt want to put anybody else threw that kind of torture. we are simple folk, we love our music we love each other, we love our land, and we want to be left alone. you poke us with a stick and retaliation seems hopeless because our goal isnt revenge but too teach the meaning of love.

If kurds have their own country how will we ever make cheese?

the time in which kurdistan generals decided that communism would be best suited for its people, was at a time when the underdogs were the communism it was with great pride that you could give your everything to your country your hopes your dreams all to lie in the arms of our mother EARTH, beautiful idea. i was a communist now i am a humanatarian. i strive for goodness bye doing good, you cant strive for good whilst killing rape and murder is going on. so like 99% of all nations we have made our mistakes but we are all for learning and change which is a plus

I was listening the the Serial podcast on which they were talking about how the US armed the Haqqanis in the 80s to fight the Russian invasion.

As there seems to be some sentiment in favor of arming and training Kurdish fighters to fight ISIS etc., I am wondering whether the West would find itself regretting such a decision some decades in the future.

Yes, the Kurds would be a strong ally in the Middle East and an example liberal secularism in the Muslim world. They've won autonomy in Iraq and Syria, we need to put pressure on Turkey to stop their oppression of the Kurds.

Based on that logic shouldn't Turkey have been given back to Greece. After all the Anotolian peninsula has been Greek culturally till the Ottomans invaded?

All of this dates back to an obscure treaty called the Sykes-Picot treaty.terms were negotiated by the French diplomat François Georges-Picot and Briton Sir Mark Sykes. After WWI, the French, Russians and British divided the Ottoman Empire amongst themselves. The Russians backed down because of the Russian Revolution. This left the British and the French to divide the Middle East. instead of dividing it among tribal borders, they drew up their artificial borders. These are the borders you see today.Britain was allocated control of areas roughly comprising the coastal strip between the sea and River Jordan, Jordan, southern Iraq, and a small area including the ports of Haifa and Acre, to allow access to the Mediterranean.France was allocated control of south-eastern Turkey, northern Iraq, Syria and Lebanon. Russia was to get Istanbul, the Turkish Straits and the Ottoman Armenian vilayets The controlling powers were left free to decide on state boundaries within these areas. Further negotiation was expected to determine international administration pending consultations with Russia and other powers, including the Sharif of Mecca.

Yes, I remember this treaty from highschool history


So I assume the Russian Kerentsky government was too busy with Lenin and the communist party to take what was on offer from the allied powers?

I salute you on knowing the Sykes-Picot treaty. No one seems to remember it and its after effects.Yes, Kerensky had bigger problems at home.