Trump’s words have consequences

Post Reply New Topic

The data suggests who his support base are so there's nothing unequivocal about that.

As far as their motivation is concerned we can at least surmise they at least tolerate Trump's populist, nationalist, misogynistic and racist reputation. I would not be surprised many of his supporters hated what they thought was political correctness during the Obama years. Trump only stood for two things - populism and nationalism.

Again... no. While there are those - like Trump - who use coded bigoted words, the people I'm mostly talking about are the sorts at the Charlottesville demonstration who murdered Heather Heyer. And again, people who say we liberals are just unjustly throwing feces at ordinary conservatives are actually protecting such deplorable trash we attack.

https://www.truthdig.com/articles/steph ... ed-emails/

Here's an article right here.

Like I said what I see is them harping on and hyping threats while portraying themselves as the guardians against those threats. The worse they make things look the more needed they are. I am talking about those in power. Politicians, moguls, media etc.

You're not suggesting that racism is not a real problem, are you? Because it is the job for everyone to call out social evils like racism, no matter who they are. It's not just a means to grab power and influence.

My statement was direct not suggestive. What I said in my above post has you talking about racism more than anything else on WP. Pretty much on a daily basis. You and especially cyberdad will even interject the subject of racism into a thead. And it all points to Trump, republicans and conservatives.

By the way what are the code words Trump is using?

Cyberdad and I have never said all conservatives are racists, but the fact remains that racists, reactionaries, and nativists have always gravitated toward conservative political movements. The Republican party leadership has been supporting voter suppression directed at minorities and the poor, as well as attempting to abolish legal protections, as they understand who part of their base is.

Illegal aliens for Latinos in general, just to name one. A wave of Anti-Latino bigotry has emerged since Trump's initial candidacy, which in turn has emboldened racists to crawl out from their rocks to attack anyone they hate.

You do seem to be grasping at straws with this claim...

The term used would cover anyone who was not a citizen of the USA ("aliens") and unlawfully in the country ("illegal"), covering both those who entered the country without going through the normal border checks\no visa, as well as those who have exceeded their approved time within the country (overstaying Visa) or peforming actions outside those approved of under their visa (working while on tourist visa, for example).

Under your logic, it would appear that any term used to describe people inside the USA (for example) without legitimate/legal reason would also come to be termed as "code words", not because that is the intention behind their use, but because this is the easiest way to prevent discussion about the issue of people entering countries outside of the country's approved channels, or being inside the countries illegally.

The fact that a portion of a specific group of people may make up the majority of those who fit under the term does not mean the term is focused on this group. Trying to redefine the term to imply it solely refers to this group (either to "protect" by calling it a "code word for racists" or "denigrate" by refering to all people of this group using the term) is insulting to both the group of people involved, as well as those who wish to have a civil discussion regarding the underlying cause of people fitting under the term and ways to fix this.

Of course, I'd be happy to revise my opinion of your "code word" claim should you be able to come up with a term/phrase which would cover all people who are inside a country illegally and which could never have the possibility to morph into another "code word"...

I do not think it is his claim. I think it is what he has been programmed to believe.

I'll be easy on you because you're not an American, and don't know what's been happening in my country under that human/Cheeto hybrid. Trump's followers have been directing their anger not just at illegals, but all Latinos since he last ran for President. It's gotten ugly. When one judge had blocked Trump early in his Presidency, Trump attacked the judge, referring to him as a "Mexican." The judge in question is of Mexican descent, but is an American.

Is that how you explain away everything you disagree with? He/she was programmed to think nonsense? Figuring I'd be a good conservative if I only resisted being brainwashed, huh?

Funny considering your internet twin on this subforum is an Australian.

As an American I think unlike you Brictoria is being sensible and reasonable.

You sound brainwashed in thinking the alternative is becoming a conservative.

What's even more funny is you dragging me into your battles when I am being civil to you, Just can't help yourself