Va. Tech report: Staff warned their families first AP – 8 mi

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southwestforests
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04 Dec 2009, 6:41 pm

I don't see how this is at all astonishing.
I don't see how this would be at all unexpected.
Somebody show me how this is not normal human behavior.

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Mr. Owczarski said he could not elaborate further. But a university official, who requested anonymity because of pending litigation, said that the two people who alerted their families were secretaries for university officials.

One secretary mentioned that there had been a shooting while calling her son to wake him up for class, the official said. The other secretary was visiting her mother when she was called by campus officials and told to get to work right away because there had been a shooting. Before leaving, that secretary informed her mother of the situation, the official said.


{there's an old, old, old, old, joke, what are the three fastest forms of communication?, telegraph, telephone, tell a woman}

Comes from here:

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/05/us/05virginia.html?_r=1

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Report on Virginia Tech Shooting Finds Notification Delays

By IAN URBINA
Published: December 4, 2009

RICHMOND, Va. — During the worst campus shooting spree in American history, Virginia Tech officials locked down some administrative buildings and warned their own families more than an hour and a half before the rest of the campus was alerted, according to revisions made in the state’s official report on the tragedy.
http://graphics8.nytimes.com/packages/pdf/us/20091204vatech.pdf

Mark Owczarski, a spokesman for the university, said the revised report was inaccurate and lacked context.

“The revised report describes the two people who alerted their families as Policy Group members, and they were not,” he said. “It also inaccurately describes the actions of those two individuals who alerted their families as though it occurred with approval of senior officials. It did not.”


Report of the Virginia Tech Review Panel: http://www.governor.virginia.gov/TempContent/techPanelReport-addendum.cfm

BTW, I went to VA Tech in the early 1980s.


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04 Dec 2009, 6:45 pm

It still doesnt explain the 90 min gap between warning the families and then the rest of campus.

Yes it's perfectly natural to put your family first but in a serious crisis like this it shouldn't take THAT long to alert other people of the danger as well.



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04 Dec 2009, 7:06 pm

raisedbyignorance wrote:
It still doesnt explain the 90 min gap between warning the families and then the rest of campus.
Yep. And probably nothing ever will.


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04 Dec 2009, 9:17 pm

I think the explaination is that these people privately warned their family members while if took 90 minutes to for the official campus warning to go out. It would be the same if I was driving on a highway and got caught in traffic due to an accident and called my family to warn them not to take the route before the radio announced the accident in their traffic reports. I know that the VT incident involved human lives but the reasoning is the same when accounting for family warning vs official warning.



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04 Dec 2009, 9:21 pm

you've got a point there demeus, it takes time to get a handle on what's happening and go through the process of doing what need to be done.


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