Conn. man from Pakistan held in Times Square case

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04 May 2010, 7:27 am

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_times_square_car_bomb


NEW YORK – A U.S. citizen who had recently returned from a five-month trip to his native Pakistan, where he had a family, was arrested at a New York airport on charges that he drove a bomb-laden SUV meant to cause a fireball in Times Square, federal authorities said.

The suspect, Faisal Shahzad, was taken into custody late Monday by FBI agents and New York Police Department detectives at Kennedy Airport while trying to board a flight to Dubai, according to U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder and other officials. He was identified by customs agents and stopped before boarding, Holder said early Tuesday in Washington.

U.S. authorities "will not rest until we have brought everyone responsible to justice," Holder said, suggesting additional suspects are being sought.

Shahzad, 30, is a naturalized U.S. citizen and had recently returned from a five-month trip to Pakistan, where he had a wife, according to law enforcement officials who spoke to The Associated Press on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the investigation into the failed car bombing.

The U.S. attorney's office in Manhattan was handling the case and said Shahzad would appear in court Tuesday, but the charges were not made public. FBI agents searched the home at a known address for Shahzad in Bridgeport, Conn., early Tuesday, said agent Kimberly Mertz, who wouldn't answer questions about the search.

Authorities removed filled plastic bags from the house overnight in a mixed-race, working-class neighborhood of multi-family homes in Connecticut's largest city. A bomb squad came and went without entering as local police and FBI agents gathered in the cordoned-off street.

Shahzad was being held in New York overnight and couldn't be contacted. A phone number at a listed address for Shahzad in Shelton, Conn., wasn't in service.

He used to live in a two-story grayish-brown Colonial with a sloping yard in a working-class neighborhood in Shelton. On Tuesday morning, the home looked as if it had been unoccupied for a while, with grass growing in the driveway and bags of garbage lying about.

Brenda Thurman, 37, a neighbor, said he lived there with his wife and two small children until last year. Shahzad had told Thurman's husband that he worked on Wall Street, she said.

"He was a little bit strange," she said. "He didn't like to come out during the day."


Law enforcement officials say Shahzad bought the SUV, a 1993 Nissan Pathfinder, from a Connecticut man about three weeks ago and paid cash. The officials spoke to the AP on condition of anonymity because of the sensitive nature of the case.

The vehicle identification number had been removed from the Pathfinder's dashboard, but it was stamped on the engine, and investigators used it to find the owner of record, who told them he had sold the vehicle to a stranger. As the SUV buyer came into focus, investigators backed off other leads.


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04 May 2010, 9:12 am

What a tool! Well, I guess he's proving Matt and Trey's point, about how free speech is under attack and religious people need to develop a sense of humor? It's just this sort of forced thinking about imponderables that gives me discomfort with religion, in general.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/tvandradio/7671750/South-Park-The-most-dangerous-show-on-television.html

At first I thought this event might have been a hoax, or maybe a publicity stunt, given the equipment used. He used a nissan! Right there, at his choice of car, his efforts were surely doomed to fail! Everyone knows nissans suck!

Nissan-car-bomber guy: Screw you!



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04 May 2010, 10:39 pm

Latest news:

http://blog.ctnews.com/connecticutpostings/2010/05/04/suspect-a-university-of-bridgeport-grad/

If he is found guilty, the first thing they should do is rescind all his degrees for the following reasons:

1. Anyone who gets sucked into death cults and the like at this level can't be worth a $h!t as a scientist in particular and has no right to call himself an educated man in general.

2. He can't make anything that works!



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05 May 2010, 2:24 am

sgrannel wrote:
Latest news:

http://blog.ctnews.com/connecticutpostings/2010/05/04/suspect-a-university-of-bridgeport-grad/

If he is found guilty, the first thing they should do is rescind all his degrees for the following reasons:

1. Anyone who gets sucked into cults and the like at this level can't be worth a $h!t as a scientist especially and has no right to call himself an educated man in general.

2. He can't make anything that works!


All we know is that his crappy fire bomb didn't work. It really was not a good fire bomb.

Also, one can be perfectly sane in one respect and totally a ditz in another respect. Think of Evriste Galoise, one of the greatest mathematicians to live (he invented group theory). He was a brilliant mathematician, but got sucked into radical politics and was provoked into a duel in which he was killed. Smart on one way, not too clever in another way. And so it goes....

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05 May 2010, 6:27 am

0_equals_true wrote:
It also make me think if they are going to go this sort of route why don’t they get hold of oxygen and acetylene canisters from construction/welding facilities.


The irony is, if he just took the car (explosives entirely optional) to the nearest motorway and drove at high speed in the wrong direction, or parked it on a railway line, or drove it into a queue at a bus stop, or any of a whole number of other things, he could have done a lot of damage... :roll:

I think it's stupid to call it a "weapon of mass destruction." A large (ie not antitank grenade or missile) thermobaric weapon should be the minimum explosive that qualifies for that. :?


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05 May 2010, 6:58 am

Gerald Celente the trend forecaster predicted this a year ago.

He said that 2010 would be the year of the "lone wolf" terrorist.
He even predicted that it might be a Pakistani who has lost family in the drone bombings.

Celente has a saying: "When people have nothing left to lose, they lose it"

Look at that guy Stack who crashed his plane into the IRS building.

I think we can expect more of the same. Not just from Muslims but also from Americans who have lost their job and their house and who "go postal".

By the way, Celente has predicted that 2012 will see food riots, mass strikes and race riots.



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05 May 2010, 11:23 am

Wombat wrote:
Gerald Celente the trend forecaster predicted this a year ago.

He said that 2010 would be the year of the "lone wolf" terrorist.
He even predicted that it might be a Pakistani who has lost family in the drone bombings.

Celente has a saying: "When people have nothing left to lose, they lose it"

Look at that guy Stack who crashed his plane into the IRS building.

I think we can expect more of the same. Not just from Muslims but also from Americans who have lost their job and their house and who "go postal".

By the way, Celente has predicted that 2012 will see food riots, mass strikes and race riots.


Faisal was employed in a good paying job, so he didn't have "nothing". He had an income, education, a house and a family and he would have become a U.S. citizen in another year. Then he went to Pakistan where the imams filled him with Islamic agitprop and made a homicidal crazy out of him. There is something about Islam that gives it the potential to turn otherwise normal males with average or high intelligence in to sociopaths.

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05 May 2010, 1:20 pm

ruveyn wrote:
Faisal was employed in a good paying job, so he didn't have "nothing". He had an income, education, a house and a family and he would have become a U.S. citizen in another year. Then he went to Pakistan where the imams filled him with Islamic agitprop and made a homicidal crazy out of him. There is something about Islam that gives it the potential to turn otherwise normal males with average or high intelligence in to sociopaths.

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In fairness, I think you are speculating about what happened during his visit to Pakistan. Not without reason, of course, but speculating, nonetheless.

And let's be clear, the creation of sociopaths is not a patent held by Islam. All manner of beliefs, both religious and non-religious, including Christianity, Environmentalism, Hinduism, Islam, Judaism, Marxism, Shinto, Sikhism and others, have created sociopaths.

In North America, the majority of terrorist incidents in the last decade have been perpetrated by non-muslims, and have had their geneses in motivations as varied as abortion policy, animal testing and marijuana legalization. While the impact of these various events pales in comparison with 9/11, the simple fact of the matter is that Islam is not the sole source of terrorism and we leave ourselves at risk if we contemplate terrorism as uniquely linked to the politics of the middle east.


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05 May 2010, 1:39 pm

Over the last decade? Maybe the in the 90s but pretty much all the terrorism in the US the last 10 years has been done by extremist Muslims or or Muslim converts.



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05 May 2010, 1:51 pm

visagrunt wrote:

And let's be clear, the creation of sociopaths is not a patent held by Islam. All manner of beliefs, both religious and non-religious, including Christianity, Environmentalism, Hinduism, Islam, Judaism, Marxism, Shinto, Sikhism and others, have created sociopaths.
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That is true, but Islam leads the world in turning out homicide/suicide terrorist bombers. When and I.E.D. goes off or a suicide bomber blows himself to paradise there is a 99.99 percent chance it was as Muslim who detonated.

When was the last time a band of Amish farmers hijacked a commercial flight and crashed it into a tall building?

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05 May 2010, 2:38 pm

Timothy McVeigh was not a muslim.

Euskadi Ta Askatasuna (Basque) are not muslim.

Irish Republican Army are not muslim.

Jacobins (French) were not muslim.

KKK are terrorists in every sense of the word. They were (or are?) not muslim.

Gavrilo Princip or his buddies were not muslims. They comminted more acts of terrorism than just the assasination of Archduke Franz Ferdinand.

Narcoterrorists of South America are not muslim.

Aum Shinrikyo (Japanese subway attacks) are not muslim.

Tamil Tigers are not muslim. They are hindu.



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05 May 2010, 2:54 pm

Dilbert wrote:
Timothy McVeigh was not a muslim.

Euskadi Ta Askatasuna (Basque) are not muslim.

Irish Republican Army are not muslim.

Jacobins (French) were not muslim.

KKK are terrorists in every sense of the word. They were (or are?) not muslim.

Gavrilo Princip or his buddies were not muslims. They comminted more acts of terrorism than just the assasination of Archduke Franz Ferdinand.

Narcoterrorists of South America are not muslim.

Aum Shinrikyo (Japanese subway attacks) are not muslim.

Tamil Tigers are not muslim. They are hindu.


Well all of those are either not with in the last 10 years or in the US.



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05 May 2010, 3:39 pm

Dilbert wrote:
Timothy McVeigh was not a muslim.

Loony. Though America does appear to have a healthy gang of paranoid loonies of his stripe, they've not been busy on the carnage front.
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Euskadi Ta Askatasuna (Basque) are not muslim.

Not out to mass murder.
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Irish Republican Army are not muslim.

Not out to mass murder.
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Jacobins (French) were not muslim.

I don't know anything about. Hey, wait, like Revolutionary period Jacobins. ^^ Hardly relevant to the 21eme siecle!
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KKK are terrorists in every sense of the word. They were (or are?) not muslim.

Agreed.
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Gavrilo Princip or his buddies were not muslims. They comminted more acts of terrorism than just the assasination of Archduke Franz Ferdinand.

Not out to mass murder.
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Narcoterrorists of South America are not muslim.

In it for the money.
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Aum Shinrikyo (Japanese subway attacks) are not muslim.

Loonies.
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Tamil Tigers are not muslim. They are hindu.

Yah, the Tamils do have the patent on the modern suicide bomb, got to give 'em that.

The basic point is that yes, there's plenty of other terrorist groups, but few of them, apart from the outright insane ones like McVeigh or Aum Thingummy, devote themselves to wholehearted mass murder and indiscriminate carnage the way that Allah apparently wants for the good of the Umma (and never mind that for the most part they're Muslims killing other Muslims!) :roll:


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