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22 Aug 2010, 6:23 pm

disney is nazis.



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22 Aug 2010, 6:24 pm

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Tragic thing here is that the men in her old country had forced her, and in fact all women, to wear the headscarfs and the robes and whatnot. (Allah-forbid a woman would be seen in public! What's next???! They will start getting jobs and driving cars? Goodness me, we can't have that!! !) And this girl had escaped that world, came here, and is still stuck in sort of a brainwashed mode of thinking where she's convinced herself that the headscarf is some sort of a heritage to be defended, instead of a bondage it truly is.

She needs some American girlfriends to take her out clubbing.


the video did not say which country she come from or her status there. she looked eastern or malaysian.



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22 Aug 2010, 6:28 pm

Mutate wrote:
disney is nazis.


You might have a point there?

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1LlZ0nmOQo[/youtube]



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22 Aug 2010, 10:13 pm

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If they wear head scarves and work with machines and it accidentially came loose and got stuck in some machinery, then there would be some serious things being brought up. But anyway, Indian people always wear their turbans properly and if one did come lose, then that only proves to show that it was done on purpose in order to invoke a lawsuit.

Turbans and headscarves would be hazardous to wear during wood and metal work. Especially welding or using a cutting torch where anything put on your head has to be non flammable.


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23 Aug 2010, 12:00 am

This is such a touchy subject.

Personally I would not forbid a Sikh from wearing a turban or a Jew from wearing his skullcap, or even a Muslim from wearing a scarf.

But what if the Muslim insisted on wearing a full burka?

What if a Western woman got a job as a bank teller and insisted that it was her "right" to wear purple hot pants, a low cut top and a lot of facial piercings?

What if a Muslim or Jewish man wants to be a policeman but they tell him he must shave off his beard, which his religion forbids him to do?



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23 Aug 2010, 1:16 am

Mutate wrote:
disney is nazis.


If disney is nazis and nazis hate jews, and muslims hate jews, and a muslim wants to sue disney...

http://www.rotten.com/library/bio/business/walt-disney/

Oh, yeah, this makes a lot of sense! Nothing like a little coherence and consistency among the factions! (sarcasm)

Sure you're not thinking of Henry (Heinrich) Ford?

http://www.rotten.com/library/bio/business/henry-ford/



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23 Aug 2010, 1:24 am

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Mutate wrote:
disney is nazis.

If disney is nazis and nazis hate jews, and muslims hate jews, and a muslim wants to sue disney...
http://www.rotten.com/library/bio/business/walt-disney/
Oh, yeah, this makes a lot of sense! Nothing like a little coherence and consistency among the factions! (sarcasm)
Sure you're not thinking of Henry (Heinrich) Ford?
http://www.rotten.com/library/bio/business/henry-ford/


Actually. Walt Disney detested Jews as did Henry Ford.
The irony is that since their deaths Jewish interests have taken over the Disney Corporation and the Ford Foundation.



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23 Aug 2010, 1:51 am

Disney did try to make accommodations by offering her a switch to a "backstage" position where she could get away with wearing the headscarf, but she refused.


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23 Aug 2010, 3:11 am

John_Browning wrote:
Craig28 wrote:
If they wear head scarves and work with machines and it accidentially came loose and got stuck in some machinery, then there would be some serious things being brought up. But anyway, Indian people always wear their turbans properly and if one did come lose, then that only proves to show that it was done on purpose in order to invoke a lawsuit.

Turbans and headscarves would be hazardous to wear during wood and metal work. Especially welding or using a cutting torch where anything put on your head has to be non flammable.


But is this just "Health and Safety" rather than an actual likelihood? There are numerous countries (all of them?) which use woodwork and metal work and there are not millions of deaths from incorrect head-gear exploding into flames, so it would seem that most industries have got a handle on it, even in nations traditionally bearded and robed. There are nations like India where people tear down whole ships in their underpants. Western litigation paranoia seems to be responsible for the mindset that its impossible to use a band-saw without goggles and a helmet...


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23 Aug 2010, 3:16 am

Wombat wrote:
This is such a touchy subject.

Personally I would not forbid a Sikh from wearing a turban or a Jew from wearing his skullcap, or even a Muslim from wearing a scarf.

But what if the Muslim insisted on wearing a full burka?

What if a Western woman got a job as a bank teller and insisted that it was her "right" to wear purple hot pants, a low cut top and a lot of facial piercings?

What if a Muslim or Jewish man wants to be a policeman but they tell him he must shave off his beard, which his religion forbids him to do?


Policemen throughout the ages have HAD beards. Probably the only good reason to not have a beard as a copper would be that it might give a bad guy something to hang on to, but I've never known that actually come up in a fight, and I'm sure that the Indian military would have mentioned it at some point.

Its quite easy to create "Turban-friendly" safety gear or whatever. The only problems with religious dress and these matters is facial identification, and certain jobs where the headgear is vital to the running of a machine (such as piloting a military aircraft or being in space say.)


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23 Aug 2010, 9:55 am

John_Browning wrote:
Craig28 wrote:
If they wear head scarves and work with machines and it accidentially came loose and got stuck in some machinery, then there would be some serious things being brought up. But anyway, Indian people always wear their turbans properly and if one did come lose, then that only proves to show that it was done on purpose in order to invoke a lawsuit.

Turbans and headscarves would be hazardous to wear during wood and metal work. Especially welding or using a cutting torch where anything put on your head has to be non flammable.


Or how about a giant lathe?

A low accident rate in countries for which headscarves and turbans are customary, might be explained by workplace exceptions to cultural dress codes as required in each instance, and people not being idiots about it.



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23 Aug 2010, 10:18 am

Bit of an overreaction isn't it?
People sue eachother over stupid reasons more and more often I've noticed.


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23 Aug 2010, 11:32 am

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They come to North America to start a new life, that's filled with freedom, and than they try to hold on to their old ways.
If North America is filled with freedom, surely she's free to wear a headscarf to work if she wants to? I'm Christian, and I don't see what the big deal is.



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23 Aug 2010, 12:05 pm

Wombat wrote:
This is such a touchy subject.

Personally I would not forbid a Sikh from wearing a turban or a Jew from wearing his skullcap, or even a Muslim from wearing a scarf.

But what if the Muslim insisted on wearing a full burka?


So what? Why shouldn't she be able to?

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What if a Western woman got a job as a bank teller and insisted that it was her "right" to wear purple hot pants, a low cut top and a lot of facial piercings?


See above.

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What if a Muslim or Jewish man wants to be a policeman but they tell him he must shave off his beard, which his religion forbids him to do?


Why should they be required to shave their beard?



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23 Aug 2010, 5:17 pm

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If it's out of uniform it's out of uniform. What's next? Islam-friendly uniforms for Hooters waitresses? :roll:


I'd never heard of the Hooters restaurant chain before I read your post. Thanks!
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23 Aug 2010, 5:47 pm

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Disney did try to make accommodations by offering her a switch to a "backstage" position where she could get away with wearing the headscarf, but she refused.


And there's the winning move.

A Disney cast member isn't so much in a uniform as they are in a costume. A uniform can, in some cases, be adapted to include religious headgear. A costume, however, is a different matter.

But the question becomes, how integral is the costume to the performance that Disney is selling. If the race of the cast member is irrelevant to the visual integrity of the performance, cannot religious headgear be designed that incorporates with the costume?


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