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09 Dec 2010, 8:16 am

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Five-year-old Liam is from Fort Bragg, North Carolina. A few years ago, he was diagnosed with Asperger's syndrome (a type of autism), but ever since he went vegetarian, his anxiety has decreased and his behavior has greatly improved. Today, he takes no medication and sleeps like a baby! Liam really loves animals, and according to his mom, he "spends a pretty insane amount of time reading about them." Liam won't kill bugs or spiders. Instead, he scoops them up and puts them outside. What a gentleman! If you're lucky enough to come across this cutie patootie, you'll probably be greeted with the words, "Hi, I'm Liam Wilson. I'm 5 years old, and I'm a vegetarian."

Don't you just love PETA?

Actually, they might be on to something. I have gone vegan (still eat eggs and dairy but no meat except seafood) and am much healthier and have more stamina and energy than I did when I was eating it. Meat is practically junk food. It's full of fat, hormones and toxins with very little benefit to your body. You can get protein in better ways, iron too.



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09 Dec 2010, 3:17 pm

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Well, I was going to be rational about this, but some vegetarian/vegan Aspies have beaten me to it.

So I am going to be totally irrational about this.

Dear PETA:

F*** you, while I eat the horse you rode in on.

Love and kisses,

James.

P.S. Please send a copy of this to Jenny McCarthy. I can't be bothered, myself. And I'm too busy getting vaccinated.


There is still a chance to be rational about it. If you click on the link, you'll see that nowhere does PETA make a link between Aspergers and meat eating. That was an assumption the OP jumped to. They merely make a link between vegetarianism and decreased anxiety, increased positive behaviour and healthier sleep in a child with Aspergers Syndrome.



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09 Dec 2010, 4:48 pm

Janissy wrote:
visagrunt wrote:
Well, I was going to be rational about this, but some vegetarian/vegan Aspies have beaten me to it.

So I am going to be totally irrational about this.

Dear PETA:

F*** you, while I eat the horse you rode in on.

Love and kisses,

James.

P.S. Please send a copy of this to Jenny McCarthy. I can't be bothered, myself. And I'm too busy getting vaccinated.


There is still a chance to be rational about it. If you click on the link, you'll see that nowhere does PETA make a link between Aspergers and meat eating. That was an assumption the OP jumped to. They merely make a link between vegetarianism and decreased anxiety, increased positive behaviour and healthier sleep in a child with Aspergers Syndrome.

The article implies that the medication he was taking had something to do with aspergers. It seems to me that rather than jumping to my conclusion, the article led me to the conclusion that moving to a vegetarian diet will lessen the symptoms of aspergers.


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09 Dec 2010, 4:55 pm

nodice1996 wrote:
Janissy wrote:
visagrunt wrote:
Well, I was going to be rational about this, but some vegetarian/vegan Aspies have beaten me to it.

So I am going to be totally irrational about this.

Dear PETA:

F*** you, while I eat the horse you rode in on.

Love and kisses,

James.

P.S. Please send a copy of this to Jenny McCarthy. I can't be bothered, myself. And I'm too busy getting vaccinated.


There is still a chance to be rational about it. If you click on the link, you'll see that nowhere does PETA make a link between Aspergers and meat eating. That was an assumption the OP jumped to. They merely make a link between vegetarianism and decreased anxiety, increased positive behaviour and healthier sleep in a child with Aspergers Syndrome.

The article implies that the medication he was taking had something to do with aspergers. It seems to me that rather than jumping to my conclusion, the article led me to the conclusion that moving to a vegetarian diet will lessen the symptoms of aspergers.


There is no medication that makes a child less Aspergian. However, there are medications that lessen anxiety. It said his anxiety decreased and he was able to stop taking medication. The odds are that it was anti-anxiety medication. It says he is less anxious. Not less autistic. There is no medicine that makes anybody less autistic.

You jumped to an unwarranted conclusion.



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09 Dec 2010, 11:08 pm

So because the medication did not remove the autism, and just the symptoms of the autism, I am wrong?


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10 Dec 2010, 12:39 am

nodice1996 wrote:
So because the medication did not remove the autism, and just the symptoms of the autism, I am wrong?

Anxiety and sleep issues aren't core issues of autism, just issues often related to it.



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10 Dec 2010, 12:39 am

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So because the medication did not remove the autism, and just the symptoms of the autism, I am wrong?

Anxiety and sleep issues aren't core issues of autism, just issues often related to it.



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10 Dec 2010, 7:18 am

buryuntime wrote:
nodice1996 wrote:
So because the medication did not remove the autism, and just the symptoms of the autism, I am wrong?

Anxiety and sleep issues aren't core issues of autism, just issues often related to it.

And it says "behavior" in the article too, not just anxiety and sleep issues.


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10 Dec 2010, 7:48 am

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So because the medication did not remove the autism, and just the symptoms of the autism, I am wrong?

Anxiety and sleep issues aren't core issues of autism, just issues often related to it.

And it says "behavior" in the article too, not just anxiety and sleep issues.


Yes, it says, "his behaviour greatly improved". This does not mean he behaved less autisticly. The article then goes on to describe, in very glowing terms, his special interest in animals and how he will spend "an insane amount of time" studying them. That's a special interest, practiced with autistic dedication, and apparently PETA approves (because it is animals). '

In the described article, he is no less autistic (he still devotes time and energy to his special interest), he is just healthier. And that is clearly fine with PETA.


For the record, since I'm a parent I can read between the lines of "his behaviour greatly improved". When parents say that, what they mean is "meltdowns greatly decreased". This isn't unique to autistic children. A parent of an NT teen will also say, "his behaviour greatly improved" if that NT teen suddenly stops slamming doors and stomping furiously through the house. It's not an autism thing.



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10 Dec 2010, 1:05 pm

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PETA activists need to be forced to watch Planet Earth. Living things on this planet eat other living things. Why would we be any different?

Idiots.



I think Life should also be an option to show them as well :lol:. Humans were made to eat meat, Why do you think we have canines?


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10 Dec 2010, 2:46 pm

We have very small canines, which indicates a plant-based diet, with some meat eating. We dont have the same gut as cats or dogs, which is a short, very acidic gut made to kill germs in meat.. we have a medium sized gut similar to rats and pigs which are also omnivorous.

There are groups of people in say, India, who have always been vegetarian. Some tribes of hominids were shown to have a vegetarian diet. It really depended on what was around to eat at the time, and also, religious reasons in case of the people in India.


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10 Dec 2010, 2:58 pm

zen_mistress wrote:
We have very small canines, which indicates a plant-based diet, with some meat eating. We dont have the same gut as cats or dogs, which is a short, very acidic gut made to kill germs in meat.. we have a medium sized gut similar to rats and pigs which are also omnivorous.

There are groups of people in say, India, who have always been vegetarian. Some tribes of hominids were shown to have a vegetarian diet. It really depended on what was around to eat at the time, and also, religious reasons in case of the people in India.


On the other hand, both Julius Caesar and Cornelius Tacitus attributed the tall height and large limbs of the Germans of the Roman period to their diet of meat and milk.

Funny how Hitler, who worshiped his ancient ancestors, chose vegetarianism over their diet. Very un-German.

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10 Dec 2010, 4:26 pm

so all predators have it?


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10 Dec 2010, 4:33 pm

yes, eating meat and milk does help people grow taller and stronger. But a more plant oriented diet generally results in a person living longer. So it depends on your aim I guess.

As for Hitler, well he is only one vegetarian in history (technically a flexitarian as he ate some meat). There is no point in holding hitler up as an example and saying "See? All vegetarians are mass-murdering psychopaths."

It is like saying that because Jeffrey Dahmer, Stalin, Attilla The Hun, ate meat, all people who eat meat are like them. The average person is not a depotic dictator, or a serial killer, whatever their diet.


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10 Dec 2010, 4:35 pm

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Oh not the PETA thing again, <sarcasm>I thought when I last checked what PETA think about the causes of autism. It was milk which caused autism</sarcasm>
so then its epidemic amongst mammels


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