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31 Jan 2011, 2:53 am

"The problem is, if we secure the border, then you all won’t have any reason to support comprehensive immigration reform." -Obama speaking to Sen. John Kyl

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Iranian Book Celebrating Suicide Bombers Found in Arizona Desert


A book celebrating suicide bombers has been found in the Arizona desert just north of the U.S.- Mexican border, authorities tell Fox News.

The book, "In Memory of Our Martyrs," was spotted Tuesday by a U.S. Border Patrol agent out of the Casa Grande substation who was patrolling a route known for smuggling illegal immigrants and drugs.

Published in Iran, it consists of short biographies of Islamic suicide bombers and other Islamic militants who died carrying out attacks.

According to internal U.S. Customs and Border Protection documents, "The book also includes letters from suicide attackers to their families, as well as some of their last wills and testaments." Each biographical page contains "the terrorist's name, date of death, and how they died."

Agents also say that the book appears to have been exposed to weather in the desert "for at least several days or weeks."

Authorities told Fox News that there were no people in the area at the time the book was found, and no arrests have been made in connection with it.

"At this time, DHS does not have any credible information on terrorist groups operating along the Southwest border," a Department of Homeland Security official said in a statement. "We work closely with our partners in the law enforcement and intelligence communities and as a matter of due diligence and law enforcement best practice, report anything found, no matter how significant or insignificant it may seem."

Statements from U.S. officials, including FBI director Robert Mueller, have raised serious concerns in recent years over "OTMs" -- or illegal immigrants other than Mexicans -- who have crossed the southwest border at alarming rates.

Mueller testified before the House Appropriations Committee in March 2005 that "there are individuals from countries with known Al Qaeda connections who are changing their Islamic surnames to Hispanic-sounding names and obtaining false Hispanic identities, learning to speak Spanish and pretending to be Hispanic."

Just last year, the Department of Homeland Security had in custody thousands of detainees from Afghanistan, Egypt, Iraq, Iran, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia and Yemen. U.S. Border Patrol statistics indicate that there were 108,025 OTMs detained in 2006, compared to 165,178 in 2005 and 44,614 in 2004.

Authorities would not release a picture of the book to Fox News, or reveal how long they believe it was lying in the desert. Immigration officials have previously discovered items along the U.S.-Mexico border from Middle Eastern origin, including Iranian currency in Zapata, Texas, and a jacket found in Jim Hogg County, Texas, that was covered in patches including an Arabic military badge that illustrates an airplane flying into a tower.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/01/27/iranian-book-celebrating-suicide-bombers-arizona-desert/#ixzz1Cb5dFeAn


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31 Jan 2011, 3:26 am

John_Browning wrote:
"The problem is, if we secure the border, then you all won’t have any reason to support comprehensive immigration reform." -Obama speaking to Sen. John Kyl

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Iranian Book Celebrating Suicide Bombers Found in Arizona Desert


A book celebrating suicide bombers has been found in the Arizona desert just north of the U.S.- Mexican border, authorities tell Fox News.

The book, "In Memory of Our Martyrs," was spotted Tuesday by a U.S. Border Patrol agent out of the Casa Grande substation who was patrolling a route known for smuggling illegal immigrants and drugs.

Published in Iran, it consists of short biographies of Islamic suicide bombers and other Islamic militants who died carrying out attacks.

According to internal U.S. Customs and Border Protection documents, "The book also includes letters from suicide attackers to their families, as well as some of their last wills and testaments." Each biographical page contains "the terrorist's name, date of death, and how they died."

Agents also say that the book appears to have been exposed to weather in the desert "for at least several days or weeks."

Authorities told Fox News that there were no people in the area at the time the book was found, and no arrests have been made in connection with it.

"At this time, DHS does not have any credible information on terrorist groups operating along the Southwest border," a Department of Homeland Security official said in a statement. "We work closely with our partners in the law enforcement and intelligence communities and as a matter of due diligence and law enforcement best practice, report anything found, no matter how significant or insignificant it may seem."

Statements from U.S. officials, including FBI director Robert Mueller, have raised serious concerns in recent years over "OTMs" -- or illegal immigrants other than Mexicans -- who have crossed the southwest border at alarming rates.

Mueller testified before the House Appropriations Committee in March 2005 that "there are individuals from countries with known Al Qaeda connections who are changing their Islamic surnames to Hispanic-sounding names and obtaining false Hispanic identities, learning to speak Spanish and pretending to be Hispanic."

Just last year, the Department of Homeland Security had in custody thousands of detainees from Afghanistan, Egypt, Iraq, Iran, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia and Yemen. U.S. Border Patrol statistics indicate that there were 108,025 OTMs detained in 2006, compared to 165,178 in 2005 and 44,614 in 2004.

Authorities would not release a picture of the book to Fox News, or reveal how long they believe it was lying in the desert. Immigration officials have previously discovered items along the U.S.-Mexico border from Middle Eastern origin, including Iranian currency in Zapata, Texas, and a jacket found in Jim Hogg County, Texas, that was covered in patches including an Arabic military badge that illustrates an airplane flying into a tower.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/01/27/iranian-book-celebrating-suicide-bombers-arizona-desert/#ixzz1Cb5dFeAn


Securing the boarder by the methods advocated by most (building a wall and increasing surveillance) is not practical. It would be costly and, more importantly, ineffective.

A better way to tackle the problem would be to instate a domestic work program and register those who come over to work as domestic workers who can cross at legal crossings. That will help sort those who are a danger to the country from those who probably aren't. Thorough background checks can be done.

Because those with good intentions would have a legal way to cross, and those with bad intentions trying to cross through these portals have a higher chance of being caught, anyone found crossing illegally can more soundly be assumed to have bad intentions, and be shot on the spot with the blessings of the Mexican government and Mexican people.



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31 Jan 2011, 5:54 am

"Authorities told Fox News that there were no people in the area at the time the book was found, and no arrests have been made in connection with it."

Arresting people for having books? Or do they (hopefully) mean in a much more coincidental way?


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31 Jan 2011, 6:16 am

I think people are already being arrested for reading books in the US judging by the tea party movement.



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31 Jan 2011, 8:48 am

This article assumes that we actually want to solve problems. If we solved all our problems, our economy would collapse.



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31 Jan 2011, 8:57 am

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I think people are already being arrested for reading books in the US judging by the tea party movement.


Specify please. Provide a reference to case, giving the particulars.

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31 Jan 2011, 10:28 am

Chronos wrote:

Securing the boarder by the methods advocated by most (building a wall and increasing surveillance) is not practical. It would be costly and, more importantly, ineffective.

A better way to tackle the problem would be to instate a domestic work program and register those who come over to work as domestic workers who can cross at legal crossings. That will help sort those who are a danger to the country from those who probably aren't. Thorough background checks can be done.


Domestic work programs and such would not reduce illegal immigration. You need to understand these people want to live in the US not just work in it while their families stay in mexico.

Walls don't work and Surveillance is but a fraction of what it should be. Only way to secure the border is to deploy a couple of infantry divisions across the entire stretch. If mexico feels threatened they are welcome to deploy their own across their side of the border... end result is the same: armed military presence patrolling the terrain constantly.

Congress should simply close those silly overseas bases in Europe and bring that personel and hardware over to the southern end of the border states.



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31 Jan 2011, 2:03 pm

Dantac wrote:
Chronos wrote:

Securing the boarder by the methods advocated by most (building a wall and increasing surveillance) is not practical. It would be costly and, more importantly, ineffective.

A better way to tackle the problem would be to instate a domestic work program and register those who come over to work as domestic workers who can cross at legal crossings. That will help sort those who are a danger to the country from those who probably aren't. Thorough background checks can be done.


Domestic work programs and such would not reduce illegal immigration. You need to understand these people want to live in the US not just work in it while their families stay in mexico.

Walls don't work and Surveillance is but a fraction of what it should be. Only way to secure the border is to deploy a couple of infantry divisions across the entire stretch. If mexico feels threatened they are welcome to deploy their own across their side of the border... end result is the same: armed military presence patrolling the terrain constantly.

Congress should simply close those silly overseas bases in Europe and bring that personel and hardware over to the southern end of the border states.


I think the main problem may well be that Mexico is an unpleasant hole? Who would want to live there when America is so much better? (As Americans are wont to say in regards to almost everything America does.)


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31 Jan 2011, 4:19 pm

Dantac wrote:
Chronos wrote:

Securing the boarder by the methods advocated by most (building a wall and increasing surveillance) is not practical. It would be costly and, more importantly, ineffective.

A better way to tackle the problem would be to instate a domestic work program and register those who come over to work as domestic workers who can cross at legal crossings. That will help sort those who are a danger to the country from those who probably aren't. Thorough background checks can be done.


Domestic work programs and such would not reduce illegal immigration. You need to understand these people want to live in the US not just work in it while their families stay in mexico.

Walls don't work and Surveillance is but a fraction of what it should be. Only way to secure the border is to deploy a couple of infantry divisions across the entire stretch. If mexico feels threatened they are welcome to deploy their own across their side of the border... end result is the same: armed military presence patrolling the terrain constantly.

Congress should simply close those silly overseas bases in Europe and bring that personel and hardware over to the southern end of the border states.


If you are working in the US, it's usually only practical to live here as well, unless you live very close to the boarder and can commute. Most of those from border towns with passes tend to do that. It is actually more favorable for a lot of them because it's cheaper to live in Mexico.

Anyway, I don't see a problem with documented migrant workers living here.

To secure the border using military would still be ineffective and cost prohibitive.

Another thing that can be done to reduce illegal immigration would be to push for economic reforms within Mexico itself. There's no reason for Mexico to have the level of poverty that it does other than poor labor regulations and corruption.



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31 Jan 2011, 5:25 pm

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If you are working in the US, it's usually only practical to live here as well, unless you live very close to the boarder and can commute. Most of those from border towns with passes tend to do that. It is actually more favorable for a lot of them because it's cheaper to live in Mexico.


The worker but not the family. Work visas are not extended to family members.

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Anyway, I don't see a problem with documented migrant workers living here.


There isn't if its skilled labor that is needed in the US and cannot be easily found by the employer. Problem is, the majority of workers that come in with temporary work permits are not. They are simply hired because its much cheaper to pay them US minimum wage and no benefits.

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To secure the border using military would still be ineffective and cost prohibitive.


It would actually be very effective since we are talking about having the military patrol the border... illegals crossing are easy to spot and drug dealers who are stupid enough to shoot at an army patrol will be on the receiving end of a lot of hurt. I wont claim it will be cheap... but certainly not more expensive than keeping multiple bases overseas.

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Another thing that can be done to reduce illegal immigration would be to push for economic reforms within Mexico itself. There's no reason for Mexico to have the level of poverty that it does other than poor labor regulations and corruption.


The only way reforms will work is if Mexico becomes a better place than the US. It wont happen. Corruption is part of the culture of almost all spanish-speaking south american countries (and since I was born and raised in one believe me its true) and their elite in power are not in the habit of using funds to improve the lives of the lower classes. That won't change without a bloody revolution that tosses the people on top out (or kill them).



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31 Jan 2011, 7:54 pm

@ Dantac

At this point a lot of the illegal immigration issue would be solved if Mexico got cleaned up.



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31 Jan 2011, 8:31 pm

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jamieboy wrote:
I think people are already being arrested for reading books in the US judging by the tea party movement.


Specify please. Provide a reference to case, giving the particulars.

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I second that please.


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31 Jan 2011, 9:30 pm

Chronos wrote:
Securing the boarder by the methods advocated by most (building a wall and increasing surveillance) is not practical. It would be costly and, more importantly, ineffective.

A better way to tackle the problem would be to instate a domestic work program and register those who come over to work as domestic workers who can cross at legal crossings. That will help sort those who are a danger to the country from those who probably aren't. Thorough background checks can be done.

Because those with good intentions would have a legal way to cross, and those with bad intentions trying to cross through these portals have a higher chance of being caught, anyone found crossing illegally can more soundly be assumed to have bad intentions, and be shot on the spot with the blessings of the Mexican government and Mexican people.

There isn't much of a wall. That is part of the problem. In some places, what little wall there was has been broken down and cartels and coyotes can drive through it. Other places, the border patrol is forbidden to enter because it is designated a wilderness preserve. We could build a really good wall like the Israelis have that would cover our entire southern border for $6.9 billion. The drain alien invaders put on our economy is 145 times that much over 10 years. We could recoup our expenses in under 6 months.

There are no jobs for the alien invaders. In some places, unemployment is over 15%, and that's not even counting the people whose benefits have run out. The old claim that Mexicans will do the jobs Americans won't doesn't hold true anymore because many Americans are very desperate for work. For every alien invader with a job, there is an unemployed American. Letting alien invaders in now would also put additional strain on already broke schools and social services.

Sure they would line up for entry but they would still cause problems whether they mean to or not. If we shot everyone crossing the border on sight we wouldn't need a domestic work program in the first place. Mexico would never approve of us doing that even they do it regularly along their southern border.


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31 Jan 2011, 9:33 pm

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I think people are already being arrested for reading books in the US judging by the tea party movement.

Really??? I haven't heard that the tea party has been given sworn law enforcement power. Can you show me where to sign up? :D


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31 Jan 2011, 11:38 pm

PatrickNeville wrote:
ruveyn wrote:
jamieboy wrote:
I think people are already being arrested for reading books in the US judging by the tea party movement.


Specify please. Provide a reference to case, giving the particulars.

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I second that please.


Most of it's adherents are rather slow-witted with confused and paranoid political positions. In the case of the above responses ,i'll give you a pass due to AS.



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Most of it's adherents are rather slow-witted with confused and paranoid political positions.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but you have made a very bold claim without backing it up. Do you have any evidence that the tea party arrested anyone for possession of certain books when the tea party doesn't even have authority to write a ticket for an expired parking meter?

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In the case of the above responses ,i'll give you a pass due to AS.

How is asking someone to show their sources of information a shortcoming, much less one related to AS?


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