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31 May 2011, 6:16 pm

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-13548222

"Police in Bristol have arrested four people after secret filming by BBC Panorama found a pattern of serious abuse at a residential hospital.
Winterbourne View treats people with learning disabilities and autism.
Andrew McDonnell, a leading expert in working with adults with mental disabilities, labelled some of the examples captured on film 'torture'."

It's shocking to watch, and the staff have only been able to get away with this level of abuse because the residents are so severely disabled. One resident even told her parents that she was being abused but they didn't believe her until the BBC showed them secretly recorded video.
These places are justified by 'challenging behaviour', but every example of challenging behaviour by residents was a result of provocation by staff, seemingly for their own amusement.

Since the CQC has totally failed here one can only wonder how many other places like this exist.



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01 Jun 2011, 3:23 am

I watched the full programme last night it's far worse than even comes across on that new item, It made me cry it was so horrific. I hope those responsible go to prison for a very long time.



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01 Jun 2011, 3:47 am

Here is the full programme if you want to watch it:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b0 ... e_Exposed/

If you are not in the UK you will need this free download to watch it:

http://www.expatshield.com/



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01 Jun 2011, 4:08 am

Four people have been arrested, and we can guess who they are, but that hospital employed far more, who just stood back and allowed the abuse to take place when it should have been apparent within minutes that something was wrong. I get the impression that the nurse who contacted the BBC no longer works there - I imagine he resigned when his complaints weren't taken seriously. There's no training required to be a care assistant, but what training should it take to recognise that sort of abuse? And the qualified nurses didn't do anything about it either. The problem isn't just a few thugs employed as care assistants, it goes to the top.

When the BBC showed their video to Simon's parents they immediately retrieved him and took him home, and his disabilities didn't seem so unmanageable when we saw him living with his family, so what was the justification for keeping him locked up in that place?

It's not clear if any of the residents were formally detained under the Mental Health Act or Mental Capacity Act, but they certainly weren't free to leave, and there have been cases of people being imprisoned in these places against their and their families wishes because of a diagnosis of autism. The people we saw being abused were uniquely vulnerable because of their disabilities, but we shouldn't think that this couldn't happen to us or members of our families. It's not as if the abuse of elderly people in case homes is unknown either.



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01 Jun 2011, 6:15 am

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It's not clear if any of the residents were formally detained under the Mental Health Act or Mental Capacity Act, but they certainly weren't free to leave, and there have been cases of people being imprisoned in these places against their and their families wishes because of a diagnosis of autism.


I don't believe the law can authorize the actually removal of an autistic person from home unless the person is not capable of independent living, is severely low functioning and there is approval by parents, carers or guardians.

It's videos like this that give parents with autistic kids nightmare if anything happened to them (the parents).



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01 Jun 2011, 6:41 am

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I don't believe the law can authorize the actually removal of an autistic person from home unless the person is not capable of independent living, is severely low functioning and there is approval by parents, carers or guardians.

Here's an example - http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/ho ... 90142.html

Even is the court finds that he was illegally detained, he was imprisoned in one of these institutions for nearly a year.

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It's videos like this that give parents with autistic kids nightmare if anything happened to them (the parents).

Videos like this should be giving all of us nightmares. That way things might change.



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01 Jun 2011, 6:55 am

I was not surprised by the level of abuse in this care home. Why? because I've been in a similar situation albeit not nearly as horrendous as what I saw on the TV last night. I also know someone who lives in my previous care home who used to be treated just like that in a different home he was in. He has mid-functioning autism and poor understanding of right and wrong, and it was only recently, when staff discussed it with him, that he even realised what had been done to him in the past was wrong.

I'm okay because I can speak out against any abuse I suffer or see, but others can't and that really bugs me. :(


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01 Jun 2011, 6:56 am

In the programme it said that Simone was 'taken' into care and briefly mentioned it being something to do with headaches leading to violent outbursts and her parents being elderly. It didn't say explicitly but I got the impression it was the authorities decision rather than her parents.



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01 Jun 2011, 7:07 am

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Here's an example - http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/ho ... 90142.html
Even is the court finds that he was illegally detained, he was imprisoned in one of these institutions for nearly a year.
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According to the law
Under the Mental Capacity Act, deprivation of liberty orders can be obtained to protect a vulnerable person. But it can only happen if the order is in a person's best interests, is proportionate and is sought when all of the least restrictive options are exhausted.

The condition this law applies is fairly restricted, in the case you posted did the boy have a history of aggressive behavior, self harm or physical violence?



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01 Jun 2011, 7:16 am

This is why it's best to avoid directly interacting with the state as much as possible if one can help it. People that are without compassion working in positions of care are very common, even if you ignore the thugs.

I wouldn't be at all surprised if the authority responsible actively tried to prevent this story getting out either when you consider the way they are with people that want to record their appointments for whatever reason, or don't want to answer certain questions to do with lifestyle choice.



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01 Jun 2011, 7:21 am

cyberdad wrote:
According to the law
Under the Mental Capacity Act, deprivation of liberty orders can be obtained to protect a vulnerable person. But it can only happen if the order is in a person's best interests, is proportionate and is sought when all of the least restrictive options are exhausted.

The condition this law applies is fairly restricted, in the case you posted did the boy have a history of aggressive behavior, self harm or physical violence?

Not until he was locked up.

His behaviour is said to have become more challenging while he was detained because he was distressed at being separated from his father, who was his main carer. He was only meant to be there three days to give his father respite while he was ill, but it turned into over a year.

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01 Jun 2011, 7:42 am

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According to the law
Under the Mental Capacity Act, deprivation of liberty orders can be obtained to protect a vulnerable person. But it can only happen if the order is in a person's best interests, is proportionate and is sought when all of the least restrictive options are exhausted.

The condition this law applies is fairly restricted, in the case you posted did the boy have a history of aggressive behavior, self harm or physical violence?

Not until he was locked up.

His behaviour is said to have become more challenging while he was detained because he was distressed at being separated from his father, who was his main carer. He was only meant to be there three days to give his father respite while he was ill, but it turned into over a year.


That's an awful story :( It sounds like they were completely misunderstanding his actions as well.


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01 Jun 2011, 8:32 am

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It sounds like they were completely misunderstanding his actions as well.


I think you're giving them too much credit - they were being abusive for the sake of it, they didn't care what his actions were.



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01 Jun 2011, 8:48 am

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Whilst Steven lived happily at home, he had the support of professional carers from the ‘Trinity Noir’ company. Steven’s father was very happy with the level of support and had no complaints. The Local Authority footed the bill, as is their legal duty. Changing Steven’s diagnosis from “autism, severe learning difficulties and challenging behaviour”, to “extreme challenging behaviour, learning difficulties and possible autistic spectrum disorder” may seem hair splitting to my readers, but on such finite definitions rest the liability to pay for Steven.

The new diagnosis could shift the responsibility for care onto the NHS Primary Care Trust…..

I'm sure the local authority had Steven's best interests at heart and couldn't possibly have been motivated by financial considerations...



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01 Jun 2011, 8:33 pm

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Whilst Steven lived happily at home, he had the support of professional carers from the ‘Trinity Noir’ company. Steven’s father was very happy with the level of support and had no complaints. The Local Authority footed the bill, as is their legal duty. Changing Steven’s diagnosis from “autism, severe learning difficulties and challenging behaviour”, to “extreme challenging behaviour, learning difficulties and possible autistic spectrum disorder” may seem hair splitting to my readers, but on such finite definitions rest the liability to pay for Steven.

The new diagnosis could shift the responsibility for care onto the NHS Primary Care Trust…..

I'm sure the local authority had Steven's best interests at heart and couldn't possibly have been motivated by financial considerations...


Tend to agree, institutionalizing people costs money. However once they are inside and "out of sight" you hope they are under best practice. The case workers, social workers and carers in institutions and rehab centres are supposed to keep diaries for record-keeping purposes and (where relevant) for reports.



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04 Jun 2011, 8:05 am

Such abuse exists in the US as well. My mom was posioned in a mental hospital by the staff and left for dead with no medical care....she however survived and I pulled a few strings with the insurace company and got her out of a court ordered temporary institutionalization.

I was also at a long term facility which had serious issues with neglect.

That is really horrible that such practices occur at those facilities in the UK....I hope this sparks regulation reform for the better.
There needs to be a discussion in the media about tighter quality controls and safety standards of these facilities and more emphasis on community in home support.


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