You are the Antichrist!

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At a recent LA fundraiser, a heckler who must've paid 250.00 to get in, screamed at President Obama: "Jesus Christ is Lord!"
When Obama answered that he agreed, the heckler screamed: "You are the Antichrist!" Continuing to scream that Jesus was Lord, the crowd began to boo him, then finally began the "Four more years" chant as he was escorted out of the building.

What do you want to bet that the right is going to take this out of context, and say that Obama's supporters were booing "Jesus Christ is Lord."

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

I read that the previous Pope thought "W" was the Antichrist. I think Christianity is the Antichrist.

so who is more likely to say that god is on their side? conversely, who is more likely to say god is on nobody's side? thus ends this edition of barstool philosopher's corner

i read someplace that nostradamus thought there were 3 antichrists, of which the office of the pope was one of 'em.

They should have an antichrist alumni association.

^^^

My childhood hero, Napoleon, is on that list. Undeservedly.
He was the father of modern archaeology, you know.
He wanted to be a romance novelist, but it didn't work out so he had to try to take over the world instead.
If there's an afterlife, perhaps we'll have a chat.

I'm rambley today.

Yeah, I think this will just be the loony toon play for evey presidency from W out to the horizons.

I still remember a whole bunch of websites that supposedly held further decoding of the 'Bible Code' which kept pointing to GWB as the antichrist, they even had him doing the 'hook em horns' thing which - per the webside - was an ancient illuminati symbol; it was the GWB terrorist fist-pump!

I guess this is where loony-tunes aren't really worth bothering with. They'll say the damnedest things and I think this is exactly why they need to be ignored, everywhere from the freaks setting up new age festivals outside the DNC's to the farse sign and t-shirt holders at the tea party rallies. Looney-tunes are free agents, technically they're everyone's problem, and they diserver about as much attention whether they're authentically there for the cause or whether democrats are planting them on republicans and republicans planting them on democracts.

If there really was an antichrist...mobs of christians would follow him like he was playing a magic flute. I am sure of that.

But with an approval rating of 36, I seroiusly doubt he qualifies as the antichrist



Jojo

Well, that's if you go by Nostradamus. If you go by John Ralston Saul his terminology for Napolean and Hiter's ilk are 'rational heroes' of the enlightenment, ie. suave people who the intellectually short-statured turn to to solve their problems - and they want to believe anything that's shoveled at them because they want to believe their fantasies more than reality.

Obama did ride the tail of glamour and almost supernatural promises much like these guys did (if he got elected it would be the day when the tides roll back and gaia begins to heal; sounds perfect for one of those life-force earth animaes but utterly cultish for real-world politics). So he had much of what he'd need to become another 'rational hero' but luckily we got something much more benign and manageable; ie. an empty suite. Also, luckily, while the housing collapse and bailouts were bad, they weren't quite as bad as say the French Revolution or the fall of the Weimar Republic so whole-sale 'rescuing' wasn't particularly wanted or needed.

Loser buys a round of coffee that the Religious Right will use this incident exactly as Kraichgauer describes it.

I posted this kind of response on Beliefnet, but it's also worth posting here:

Where the term Antichrist is used in the New Testament, it's used in one of two senses: First, in 1 and 2 John, it's the epistle-writer's personal choice of term to describe what others call a false teacher, or what we call a heretic today; second, the Book of Revelation uses Antichrist to refer to the Emperor in Rome, specifically to Nero Caesar (that's why later manuscripts of the book use 616 for the "number of the Beast" instead of 666).

That's how Luther and other early Protestant reformers used the term to describe the Popes of their day. But it hardly meant the scion of the Devil, as evangelicals and popular fiction make use of it today.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

True enough. My point is that when evangelicals use the term Antichrist to mean scion of the devil, their use of the term is unBiblical. By using the term in this way, they themselves are rejecting the plain meaning of Scripture and replacing it with a religiously and politically expedient meaning for the sake of controversy with their fellow-Christians. And yet they condemn mainline Christians for doing the same thing? Just one more reason why I will stay a mainline Christian for the rest of my life.

Me too. You're preaching to the choir.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

No.
He predicted "three antichrists"- conquering military messiahs in the coming centuries. The first seemed to have come true in the form of Napoleon, the second seemed to come true in the form of Adolf Hitler, and the third is "the one who wears the blue turban"- a future conquorer rising in the Islamic Middle East.

Not sayin' I believe it. Just thats the common interpretation.

i wonder who the blue turbaned one could possibly be. i believe the antichrist is alive now. one thing said about the antichrist is that nobody will be able to make war with him because he will be utterly reasonable beyond contention, that he will outthink his enemies but make it seem like it was their own idea.