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29 Aug 2015, 8:39 pm

A flight being diverted is not really news but:

An international flight from Las Vegas to Frankfurt made an emergency landing at Denver International Airport escorted by two F-16 fighter jets Friday night after what officials called a "disturbance on the plane."

What good could 2 F-16 fighter jets do for anything happening on a plane? They might justify scrambling two jets because its good no notice practice, but otherwise its a waste of fuel and air time. IMO.



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29 Aug 2015, 8:54 pm

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A flight being diverted is not really news but:

An international flight from Las Vegas to Frankfurt made an emergency landing at Denver International Airport escorted by two F-16 fighter jets Friday night after what officials called a "disturbance on the plane."

What good could 2 F-16 fighter jets do for anything happening on a plane? They might justify scrambling two jets because its good no notice practice, but otherwise its a waste of fuel and air time. IMO.


Since 9/11 that's protocol. If the "disturbance" doesn't solve itself, the F-16 will solve it by shooting it down.



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30 Aug 2015, 5:58 am

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An FBI Spokesperson said the plane was escorted; however the matter was determined to be a customer service issue and not terrorism related.

Incident between flight crew, passenger cause Germany-bound plane to divert to DIA

It sounds like the crew miss-reported the seriousness of the incident.


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30 Aug 2015, 12:58 pm

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An FBI Spokesperson said the plane was escorted; however the matter was determined to be a customer service issue and not terrorism related.

Incident between flight crew, passenger cause Germany-bound plane to divert to DIA

It sounds like the crew miss-reported the seriousness of the incident.


Kneejerk reaction to some little thing I bet.
Passenger: Stewardess, I asked for a Sprite, not a Coke.
Stewardess: Sorry, sir, but I was sure you said Coke.
Passenger: I didn't stutter (a little too testily).

That stewardess (who has been programmed not to think) goes to the head stewardess (who has been programmed to think only a little) who then goes to the captain who is too interested in covering his ass to make an actual decision goes on the alarm and pandemonium reigns supreme: F-16's scrambled, emergency landing, flight delayed for a day, ALL passengers now pissed off and making demands, etc....

This is why I don't make a scene over anything in public even if it is warranted. You're only minutes or even seconds from having the cops set on you who won't evaluate they'll just arrest and send you up s**t creek without a paddle.


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30 Aug 2015, 1:26 pm

One day there were disturbances in four planes, three ended up crashing into buildings. That's why they scramble the military jets now.



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30 Aug 2015, 3:36 pm

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This is why I don't make a scene over anything in public even if it is warranted. You're only minutes or even seconds from having the cops set on you who won't evaluate they'll just arrest and send you up s**t creek without a paddle.

The hierarchy demands your compliance. Failure will result in punishment.



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30 Aug 2015, 8:28 pm

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That stewardess (who has been programmed not to think)...

Flight attendant and I suspect that job is quite demanding.



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30 Aug 2015, 9:20 pm

androbot01 wrote:
Raptor wrote:
That stewardess (who has been programmed not to think)...

Flight attendant and I suspect that job is quite demanding.


You'll find I sometimes like to use antiquated terms just because.


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30 Aug 2015, 9:21 pm

I can tell by your avatar.



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30 Aug 2015, 9:24 pm

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One day there were disturbances in four planes, three ended up crashing into buildings. That's why they scramble the military jets now.


Next month will be the 14th anniversary of 9/11. All this over-precautionary s**t having to do with hijacking has been a 14 year long sustained knee-jerk reaction.
We've got to get over it and move on.


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30 Aug 2015, 9:29 pm

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I can tell by your avatar.


I used to have an eagle and American flag as an avatar.

Before that the insignia of the 3rd SS Panzer Division.


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30 Aug 2015, 9:36 pm

I miss the eagle. He was cool.



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31 Aug 2015, 1:01 pm

Raptor wrote:
0regonGuy wrote:
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An FBI Spokesperson said the plane was escorted; however the matter was determined to be a customer service issue and not terrorism related.

Incident between flight crew, passenger cause Germany-bound plane to divert to DIA

It sounds like the crew miss-reported the seriousness of the incident.


Kneejerk reaction to some little thing I bet.
Passenger: Stewardess, I asked for a Sprite, not a Coke.
Stewardess: Sorry, sir, but I was sure you said Coke.
Passenger: I didn't stutter (a little too testily).

That stewardess (who has been programmed not to think) goes to the head stewardess (who has been programmed to think only a little) who then goes to the captain who is too interested in covering his ass to make an actual decision goes on the alarm and pandemonium reigns supreme: F-16's scrambled, emergency landing, flight delayed for a day, ALL passengers now pissed off and making demands, etc....

This is why I don't make a scene over anything in public even if it is warranted. You're only minutes or even seconds from having the cops set on you who won't evaluate they'll just arrest and send you up s**t creek without a paddle.
you've clearly not read the article and yet you're commenting on it anyway. it wasn't an angry comment from a passenger, a flight attendant got punched in the face.



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01 Sep 2015, 2:50 am

0regonGuy wrote:
An FBI Spokesperson said the plane was escorted; however the matter was determined to be a customer service issue and not terrorism related.
Incident between flight crew, passenger cause Germany-bound plane to divert to DIA

It sounds like the crew miss-reported the seriousness of the incident.


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Kneejerk reaction to some little thing I bet.
Passenger: Stewardess, I asked for a Sprite, not a Coke.
Stewardess: Sorry, sir, but I was sure you said Coke.
Passenger: I didn't stutter (a little too testily).

That stewardess (who has been programmed not to think) goes to the head stewardess (who has been programmed to think only a little) who then goes to the captain who is too interested in covering his ass to make an actual decision goes on the alarm and pandemonium reigns supreme: F-16's scrambled, emergency landing, flight delayed for a day, ALL passengers now pissed off and making demands, etc....

This is why I don't make a scene over anything in public even if it is warranted. You're only minutes or even seconds from having the cops set on you who won't evaluate they'll just arrest and send you up s**t creek without a paddle.

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you've clearly not read the article and yet you're commenting on it anyway.

Show me where it says I can't. :P

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it wasn't an angry comment from a passenger, a flight attendant got punched in the face.

Someone puts something on twitter about a lady punching a flight attendant but nothing on any news site about an arrest for assault or anything else certain. No one seems to have gotten this incident on video, either. Amazing since everyone carries a video campear on their person.

Even if there was an assault thats no reason to scramble F-16's or make an emergency landing. That whole thing had to have been very expensive.


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01 Sep 2015, 3:21 am

chapstan wrote:
What good could 2 F-16 fighter jets do for anything happening on a plane? They might justify scrambling two jets because its good no notice practice, but otherwise its a waste of fuel and air time. IMO.


what's not a waste these days, buying crap that's less durable than the package,
and it comes all the way from china, is transport for free?
it would be unsurprising if we subsidize this to happen



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01 Sep 2015, 10:34 am

Raptor wrote:
0regonGuy wrote:
An FBI Spokesperson said the plane was escorted; however the matter was determined to be a customer service issue and not terrorism related.
Incident between flight crew, passenger cause Germany-bound plane to divert to DIA

It sounds like the crew miss-reported the seriousness of the incident.


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Kneejerk reaction to some little thing I bet.
Passenger: Stewardess, I asked for a Sprite, not a Coke.
Stewardess: Sorry, sir, but I was sure you said Coke.
Passenger: I didn't stutter (a little too testily).

That stewardess (who has been programmed not to think) goes to the head stewardess (who has been programmed to think only a little) who then goes to the captain who is too interested in covering his ass to make an actual decision goes on the alarm and pandemonium reigns supreme: F-16's scrambled, emergency landing, flight delayed for a day, ALL passengers now pissed off and making demands, etc....

This is why I don't make a scene over anything in public even if it is warranted. You're only minutes or even seconds from having the cops set on you who won't evaluate they'll just arrest and send you up s**t creek without a paddle.

Fugu wrote:
you've clearly not read the article and yet you're commenting on it anyway.

Show me where it says I can't. :P
because it'd make you appear ignorant, but then that ship sailed a long time ago.
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it wasn't an angry comment from a passenger, a flight attendant got punched in the face.

Someone puts something on twitter about a lady punching a flight attendant but nothing on any news site about an arrest for assault or anything else certain. No one seems to have gotten this incident on video, either. Amazing since everyone carries a video campear on their person.

Even if there was an assault thats no reason to scramble F-16's or make an emergency landing. That whole thing had to have been very expensive.

it is when the lady in question claimed to want to bring the plane down because they confiscated her cat.


http://abc7chicago.com/news/flight-diverted-after-passenger-becomes-unruly-over-cat/962253/ wrote:
A passenger said a woman was angry and making threats after the flight crew put her cat in a bathroom. The woman allegedly boarded with the animal in her purse and not in a proper pet carrier.

"She said that she was part of the mafia and that the mafia follows her around the world and that she was able to bring the plane down if that needed to be the case if she couldn't see her cat," said passenger Dashenka Giraldo.