Bernie Sanders sues Democratic National Committee

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24 Mar 2016, 6:16 pm

Yes it finally happened, Bernie Sanders and his campaign finally sued the Democratic National Committee over the day late last year when he and his campaign was denied access to the voter database for 24 hours.
The 24 hour denial was punishment after members of his campaign staff had repeatedly breaking the rules on accessing their opponent's voter data.

Bernie Sanders and his campaign are suing for damages and claim the DNC actively trying to stop his campaign and securing victories for Hillary Clinton in the states she won.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/201 ... national-/

DNC says his case is unfounded, though they are working with him to come to a peaceful resolution.

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However, the access logs do show that Sanders staff pulled not one but multiple lists—not searches, but lists—a fact that shows intent to export and use. And the lists were highly sensitive material. News reports have indicated that the data was “sent to personal folders” of the campaign staffers—but those refer to personal folders within NGPVAN, which are near useless without the ability to export the data locally.

Even without being able to export, however, merely seeing the topline numbers of, say, how many voters the Clinton campaign had managed to bank as “strong yes” votes would be a valuable piece of oppo. While it’s not the dramatic problem that a data export would have been, it’s undeniable that the Sanders campaign gleaned valuable information from the toplines alone. It’s also quite clear that most of the statements the Sanders campaign made as the story progressed—from the claim that the staffers only did it to prove the security breach, or that only one staffer had access—were simply not true. It’s just not clear at this point whether the campaign’s comms people knew the truth and lied, or whether they were not being told the whole truth by the people on the data team who were still making up stories and excuses to cover their tracks. I suspect the latter.

Still, the Sanders camp’s reactions have been laughable. It was their team that unethically breached Clinton’s data. It was their comms people who spoke falsely about what happened. The Sanders campaign wasn’t honeypotted into doing it—their people did it of their own accord. NGPVAN isn’t set up to benefit Clinton at Sanders’ expense—and if the violation by the campaigns had been reversed, Sanders supporters would have been claiming a conspiracy from sunrise to sundown. What’s very clear is that the Clinton camp did nothing wrong in any of this. Sanders campaign operatives did, and then Wasserman-Schultz compounded it by overreacting. And in the end, the right thing ended up happening: the lead staffer in question was fired, and the campaign got its data access back.

http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/politi ... 059035.php


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24 Mar 2016, 6:59 pm

Can't see much coming from it, these parties aren't even required to have these primaries if they didn't want them.

If Bernie wants to win he starts having to hit Hillary over he lack of ethics and the laundry list of scandals, I wish Jerry Brown ran since at least he's not a wimp when it comes to the Clinton's.



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24 Mar 2016, 7:06 pm

Jacoby wrote:
Can't see much coming from it, these parties aren't even required to have these primaries if they didn't want them.

If Bernie wants to win he starts having to hit Hillary over he lack of ethics and the laundry list of scandals, I wish Jerry Brown ran since at least he's not a wimp when it comes to the Clinton's.


Actually primaries are required by federal law as a compromise between the people and parties.
It was also done to weed out corruption too.

Anyways primaries were signed into law in the 1960s.


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24 Mar 2016, 7:17 pm

Like Jerry Brown in 1992, the DNC will offer Bernie Sanders a prime-time speaking spot during the Democratic National Convention. Gee, don't bust a gut trying to assuage what would otherwise be a federal civil lawsuit, there.

The DNC, like the RNC, is famous for playing favorites. While I don't like Sanders, he has a legitimate legal complaint.


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24 Mar 2016, 7:18 pm

xenocity wrote:
Jacoby wrote:
Can't see much coming from it, these parties aren't even required to have these primaries if they didn't want them.

If Bernie wants to win he starts having to hit Hillary over he lack of ethics and the laundry list of scandals, I wish Jerry Brown ran since at least he's not a wimp when it comes to the Clinton's.


Actually primaries are required by federal law as a compromise between the people and parties.
It was also done to weed out corruption too.

Anyways primaries were signed into law in the 1960s.


didn't know this, can you point me to this law?

Also, I think Bernie is ultimately a team player and will fall in line with Hillary since I don't think he ever had the slightest thought that he'd have a chance to win which is why he's avoided attacking her. Hillary will pick Elizabeth Warren to try to win over the Bernie grassroots supporters and Bernie will get that prime time speaking spot. Altho I think Warren would be a bad choice for VP since Trump would savage her for lying about being Native American. I don't think Hillary would want that distraction, they've been prepping Julian Castro for a long time now.



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24 Mar 2016, 7:24 pm

Jacoby wrote:
xenocity wrote:
Jacoby wrote:
Can't see much coming from it, these parties aren't even required to have these primaries if they didn't want them.

If Bernie wants to win he starts having to hit Hillary over he lack of ethics and the laundry list of scandals, I wish Jerry Brown ran since at least he's not a wimp when it comes to the Clinton's.


Actually primaries are required by federal law as a compromise between the people and parties.
It was also done to weed out corruption too.

Anyways primaries were signed into law in the 1960s.


didn't know this, can you point me to this law?

Also, I think Bernie is ultimately a team player and will fall in line with Hillary since I don't think he ever had the slightest thought that he'd have a chance to win which is why he's avoided attacking her. Hillary will pick Elizabeth Warren to try to win over the Bernie grassroots supporters and Bernie will get that prime time speaking spot. Altho I think Warren would be a bad choice for VP since Trump would savage her for lying about being Native American. I don't think Hillary would want that distraction, they've been prepping Julian Castro for a long time now.


Each state passed laws to force primaries in their states.
Technically Oregon was the first to sign the primary into law in 1910.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_St ... al_primary

Each state legislates it's own primary.


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24 Mar 2016, 7:27 pm

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Like Jerry Brown in 1992, the DNC will offer Bernie Sanders a prime-time speaking spot during the Democratic National Convention. Gee, don't bust a gut trying to assuage what would otherwise be a federal civil lawsuit, there.

The DNC, like the RNC, is famous for playing favorites. While I don't like Sanders, he has a legitimate legal complaint.

His campaign staffers broke the data access rules stealing Hillary's data, which the DNC punished them for and the DNC was criticized for going to lightly on him by the press.

His punishment is what sparked the legalities between him and the DNC.

He started it.


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24 Mar 2016, 11:57 pm

Who cares the socialist hunchback can't even hit the wicked witch over her emails, no wonder he is losing to her!! !



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25 Mar 2016, 11:00 am

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Who cares the socialist hunchback can't even hit the wicked witch over her emails, no wonder he is losing to her!! !

Hunchback?I didn't know Igor was in the race.


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25 Mar 2016, 12:02 pm

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Who cares the socialist hunchback can't even hit the wicked witch over her emails, no wonder he is losing to her!! !

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/emails-show ... martphone/
The NSA denied Hillary's request for a secure smartphone in 2009 shortly after she became Secretary of State.

The law didn't mandate that administration officials and other government employees use secure hardware outside of the President and Vice President and certain members of the Military.

The law changed in 2012 mandating all future high ranking government employees use secure devices and software.
John Kerry is the first Secretary of State to use a secure device, software, and federal email address.

SoS Clinton, Rice, Powell, Albright all used insecure devices to send and receive work stuff.
General Patraes (sp?) used Yahoo Mail for many communications while heading the war in Iraq, this is how his dealings with the biographer and his mistress were discovered.
Other Generals, Secretaries in the cabinet and members of Congress use insecure devices and software to do business.

Hillary Clinton has been cleared by 8 committees on Benghazi and other committees who went through her emails.
She was also proven not to have sent classified business from her phone.
Many of her emails were deemed classified by the State Department post 2012 after Kerry succeeded her, though Intelligence agencies don't agree on that they are worth classifying.

GOP House member Mr. Hanna states the only reason the GOP Benghazi committees exist are to take down Hillary and her supporters and are scheduled to run past the November election on Meet the Press.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/hil ... a1ce62037e

GOP also recently blamed the Democrats for wasting taxpayer money on the numerous Benghazi committees.
http://thehill.com/policy/national-secu ... hazi-probe


I'm not a Hillary supporter, just pointing out facts.


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