Hundreds Accuse Trump of Failing to Pay for Their Work
From Democracy Now. org
So that mean everything that comes from Stormfront about Obama is true >_<
To make the claim factual
1) First you have to prove these people worked DIRECTLY for Trump (like at his estate in FL)
2)Then prove they had no pay whatsoever, what wage were they on (salary -hourly), what work was actually done. Also... were they fired? (still owed for work but are they talking about wanting pay past the hourly wage for taking a space up?)
3) Hundreds? OMG hundreds? out of thousands. So 1 of 24 employees under his personal organization (not counting indirect investments like in Hawaii) were unpaid?
( http://money.cnn.com/2015/09/03/news/ec ... s-created/ )
After all that digging? Well then, better start looking at Microsoft closely and whatever should happen to Trump should be done with waterboarding and bagpipe music as added punishment to Bill Gates.
I am not justifying any people that didn't get paid, but I find their sudden showing as contrived And saying it is Trump is a LIE unless they were personally hired by him.
Not saying something couldn't gone wrong somewhere but the stretch that Trumpbashers has to string out is ridiculous. He is a boorish guy with a big ego that had some money and made into a hella lot more. He was a corporate businessman so has some dirt under his rug, but not really bloody hands.
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From USA Today (whose reporter for this story was interviewed on Democracy Now):
Full article at USA TODAY exclusive: Hundreds allege Donald Trump doesn’t pay his bills
I would also add that it is shamefully outrageous to compare Democracy Now to Stormfront.
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The rules do not say that I cannot post videos with no commentary. However there is a rule that reads as follows:
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This includes insinuation, ridicule and personal insults, regardless of whether direct or indirect. Attacking an opinion, belief or philosophy is acceptable, but attacking the person making the comments is not.
Trump has been caught yet again in acts of public wrongdoing, and there's certainly no reason for suppressing a video about it.
I'm not sure what "PPR" is, but whatever it is, I'm certainly not "spamming".
From 31 May until now (16 June) I've posted a total of 18 videos, averaging approximately 1 video per day. You can check my comment history for verification. I've posted more lately about Trump simply because there has been so much to post. If you like, I'll post a comment with every video about Trump describing him for exactly what he is. But I think people can figure out from the many posts I've made about Trump, without additional commentary, that I don't like the guy.
EDIT: Here is a link to the WrongPlanet Rules. Now it's up to you to cite which rule has been violated.
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EDIT: Here is a link to the WrongPlanet Rules. Now it's up to you to cite which rule has been violated.
I'm just saying what I have seen in the past many times.
When members continually post links/pics/videos without commentary, then a mod steps in and says that's "spamming". Thoughtbeast keeps posting anti-Trump videos with no commentary.
Spamming is apparently against the rules. Or are you saying we can continually post links/videos/pics without commentary ?
Also, I think you are wrong to think the rules contain all the rules.
I recently received a warning that my post "could be interpreted to be a sterotype of an ethnic group". You won't find that in the rules.
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Love, don't hate, LoveNotHate.
Spamming is clearly defined in rule 3 (emphases added):
This includes copyrighted material, serial codes, and posts made to promote a website, group or product, particularly if made repeatedly and without other participation in the WP community (spamming).
Nowhere does it say that posts not made to promote a website, group or product constitute spam. My few posts come from a variety of sources.
Nor does the rule require that posts contain commentary. It does require "other participation in the WP community". You can go through my comment history and you'll find that I do indeed have "other participation in the WP community." Examples: I've posted a link to a really great cookie recipe (the baked kind, not the computer type), alligators and added iatrogenic to a word list. Nowhere do the rules require that individual posts themselves must be accompanied by commentary, even large numbers of them.
I'm clearly not spamming.
Now you separately mentioned that
Actually a post that could be interpreted to be a stereotype of an ethnic group obviously violates the rules from the very start (emphases added):
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Unacceptable content includes swearing; racist, sexist, homophobic language; behavior intended to provoke or belittle other members;
And your attack on me for my posts is another violation of rule 1 as it is clearly behavior intended to provoke or belittle other members; as well as a violation of rule 2 which states that (emphasis added):
This includes insinuation, ridicule and personal insults, regardless of whether direct or indirect. Attacking an opinion, belief or philosophy is acceptable, but attacking the person making the comments is not.
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As you're looking through my comment history, you can find the link to the cookie recipe. It's a delicious recipe and I urge you to bake some of those cookies in place of making personal attacks on me. I think you'll find it's both more fun and satisfying.
Thus endeth the lesson.
Reported in the New York Times too. There seems to be a pattern of not paying contractors, then getting sued and trying to settle for less money. Some of these businesses were small and family owned, and could not survive such a large expense. Trump says it's because their work was sub-par, but in some cases they were invited back to do more work.
Even if he was hiring bad contractors that just shows how bad he is at judging whether or not someone will do a good job. If he has problems hiring a good contractor how can he be trusted to appoint qualified people. Just look at how he had to discipline his campaign workers on that phone call.
Love, don't hate, LoveNotHate.
First, I didn't report to mods. I merely stated my opinion regarding "thoughtbeast". Who seems to be using this website , not for discussion, but rather to post political videos.
Do you want this website to turn into user accounts who just continuously post political videos with no commentary and limited follow-up?
The past user "khaoz" admitted to doing that last year, after many warnings from the mods. Warnings not to spam with links/articles with no commentary. Turns out Khaoz actually worked for the Democratic party in the past, and later admitted he "just wanted make people think about pro-Democrat issues", and was not here to participate in the discussion.
Let's see, besides "khaoz" there is the user who repeatedly posts anti-misandry pics on PPR and got warned. "Without commentary; this is just spam".
I believe you actually warned AspieSavant about it.
Second, ethnic sterotypes are not racist, if simply for the fact that ethnicity is not a race.
If such a rule were true, then PPR would grind to a halt. Because nearly all discussion , involves discussing groups of people, and applying traits to that group (i.e., sterotyping). Of course when someone creates one of the many topics about say "Jews" or "Muslims" or "Atheists" and applies traits to the group, we know they don't mean all members of the group are that way. Which is possibly why sterotyping is not in the rules
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Love, don't hate, LoveNotHate.
First, I didn't report to mods. I merely stated my opinion regarding "thoughtbeast". Who seems to be using this website , not for discussion, but rather to post political videos.
Do you want this website to turn into user accounts who just continuously post political videos?
The past user "khaoz" admitted to doing that last year, after many warnings from the mods. Warnings not to spam with links/articles with no commentary. Turns out Khaoz actually worked for the Democratic party in the past, and later admitted he "just wanted make people think about pro-Democrat issues", and was not here to participate in the discussion.
Let's see, besides "khaoz" there is the user who repeatedly posts anti-misandry pics on PPR and got warned. "Without commentary; this is just spam".
Second, ethnic sterotypes are not racist, if simply for the fact that ethnicity is not a race.
If such a rule were true, then PPR would grind to a halt. Because nearly all discussion , involves discussing groups of people, and applying traits to that group (i.e., sterotyping). Of course when someone creates one of the many topics about say "Jews" or "Muslims" or "Atheists" and applies traits to the group, we know they don't mean all members of the group are that way. Which is possibly why sterotyping is not in the rules
I actually have a feeling that there is a person here doing that same thing you described that user of doing. Except this user isn't on the democratic side this time, and I isn't thoughtbeast. (or you for that matter. Just want to be clear on that) There is also a lot more work behind the posts I'm talking about. I don't want to mention a name because it's just a suspicion.
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