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12 Jul 2016, 3:57 pm

Yeah, BLM never killed anyone. What do you mean do we need a city burned? That's what happens when people have no outlet for expression or hope for change.



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12 Jul 2016, 4:05 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8Bu0OZNSNg


soo charming.. why it makes me want to help them. NOT. Makes me want to see their faces smeared in concrete as they are cuffed with an extra kick before being lifted and thrown into the paddy wagon.
Disgusting rabble that makes me less empathetic to black people as a whole by the year.

With new coverage the way it is I'd be happier to see them naked and chained to each other ON SIDE OF ROAD with big signs as their cover to make sure media read their sign. No violence needed. These people don't want to see a nation wide all class vigilante justice war start being the norm. It great when your side has the power of fear over the unarmed peaceniks around you. Not so great when you get served cold what you dished hot.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LxCYvGaODGQ

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I was not for Bernie. But damn, that old fossil was marching with MLK. He was arrested while chained to a black woman during protests. He spent his time protesting against the "Bourgeoisie " instead of working most his life. Some thanks.

Unless ...you want to believe ALL these violent, mostly "progressive" side, protestors are actually secret mercenaries of Soros meant ot keep etavblishment in power and usher Hillary as next talking head.


PS crazy Dallas Garage dude said :

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During the standoff, Mr. Johnson, who was black, told police negotiators that “he was upset about Black Lives Matter,” Chief Brown said. “He said he was upset about the recent police shootings. The suspect said he was upset at white people. The suspect stated he wanted to kill white people, especially white officers.”

I am not aware of a direct murder by a member but those things stay local and take longer to circulate anyway so I will hold opinion. They do ask to kill cops . They are like Emo Black Panthers.


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12 Jul 2016, 4:10 pm

Jacoby wrote:
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...we all want accountability but mob justice is not justice

I agree. Which is why the movement is non-violent.


Why do you say it's non-violent? Because they say they are? The rhetoric certainly has not been non-violent, there has been incidences of violence against police and at these protests all around the country. They've arrested hundreds of people, they've injured police at these protests with fireworks and rocks. What are they protesting, against the due process of these officers in these specific incidences? They've already made their minds up about the guilt of these people. Agitators are looking to spark confrontations just like they did in Ferguson. Do we need a city to burned? Do we need more officers to die?

The incidents of violence are minor, the kind of thing you might expect when tensions are high, (no different to a typical Trump rally) but (unless you listen to Fox News) no rioting, burning, looting, etc.

They are protesting the situation. The country has to respond to their concerns. How, exactly, I don't know, maybe listen to their leaders?


What leaders?

And find me one Trump rally were a cop or anybody was murder or pelted with rocks or anybody was even injured. Perhaps they're similar to the protests outside Trump rallies but I don't think you want to go for that narrative.

Do we need a city to be burned? Is that what it's going to take?


No injuries or violence at Trump rallies?!?!?! Those protestors who got punched and shoved, and threatened certainly would disagree.


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12 Jul 2016, 4:13 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
Jacoby wrote:
AspE wrote:
Jacoby wrote:
AspE wrote:
Jacoby wrote:
...we all want accountability but mob justice is not justice

I agree. Which is why the movement is non-violent.


Why do you say it's non-violent? Because they say they are? The rhetoric certainly has not been non-violent, there has been incidences of violence against police and at these protests all around the country. They've arrested hundreds of people, they've injured police at these protests with fireworks and rocks. What are they protesting, against the due process of these officers in these specific incidences? They've already made their minds up about the guilt of these people. Agitators are looking to spark confrontations just like they did in Ferguson. Do we need a city to burned? Do we need more officers to die?

The incidents of violence are minor, the kind of thing you might expect when tensions are high, (no different to a typical Trump rally) but (unless you listen to Fox News) no rioting, burning, looting, etc.

They are protesting the situation. The country has to respond to their concerns. How, exactly, I don't know, maybe listen to their leaders?


What leaders?

And find me one Trump rally were a cop or anybody was murder or pelted with rocks or anybody was even injured. Perhaps they're similar to the protests outside Trump rallies but I don't think you want to go for that narrative.

Do we need a city to be burned? Is that what it's going to take?


No injuries or violence at Trump rallies?!?!?! Those protestors who got punched and shoved, and threatened certainly would disagree.


Far more Trump supporters have been attacked by protesters than there other way around, you know that is a fact. You have like 2 or 3 incidences whereas the other side hear literally has had multiple riots and have attacked people.



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12 Jul 2016, 4:21 pm

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You're being incredibly insulting. For you to keep trying to paint a negative picture of a peaceful movement by focusing on the outliers. Especially trying to link the shooter with BLM. They may have been mad at the same thing but the shooter was not affiliated with them. The amount of willful ignorance you display on these forums is astounding.


I don't do anything or make any bigger assumptions that hasn't been done tenfold to my side, if you dislike that then perhaps your side shouldn't of escalated political discourse to such a degree. I see a violent leaderless directionless protest movement that is doing more harm than good for their cause. These people aren't the flower children, they're not being led by Ghandi or MLK, there isn't anything peaceful about their rhetoric.



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12 Jul 2016, 4:31 pm

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They are protesting the situation. The country has to respond to their concerns. How, exactly, I don't know, maybe listen to their leaders?


Arrest them more likely the best thing to do with these leaders. Someon can do time to say "kill jews" but not "kill whites" ? "kill cops" ?
What all the help , lobbies, ACORN and s**t has them get Obummer elected but they can't use their vote to concentrate on local politics? Their representatives?

I'm not buying it


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12 Jul 2016, 4:32 pm

Jacoby wrote:
Lukeda420 wrote:
Jacoby,

You're being incredibly insulting. For you to keep trying to paint a negative picture of a peaceful movement by focusing on the outliers. Especially trying to link the shooter with BLM. They may have been mad at the same thing but the shooter was not affiliated with them. The amount of willful ignorance you display on these forums is astounding.


I don't do anything or make any bigger assumptions that hasn't been done tenfold to my side, if you dislike that then perhaps your side shouldn't of escalated political discourse to such a degree. I see a violent leaderless directionless protest movement that is doing more harm than good for their cause. These people aren't the flower children, they're not being led by Ghandi or MLK, there isn't anything peaceful about their rhetoric.


You see everything through a red lens so it's no surprise that you see things that way. If you would extricate yourself from the bubble you'll understand. Until then you'll have The Donald leading you around by the nose. Maybe if you stepped away from those right wing sites for a while you might stop being wrong as much. You've made so many factually incorrect posts here that I'm sure you're used to it by now though.



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12 Jul 2016, 4:34 pm

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They are protesting the situation. The country has to respond to their concerns. How, exactly, I don't know, maybe listen to their leaders?


Arrest them more likely the best thing to do with these leaders. Someon can do time to say "kill jews" but not "kill whites" ? "kill cops" ?
What all the help , lobbies, ACORN and s**t has them get Obummer elected but they can't use their vote to concentrate on local politics? Their representatives?

I'm not buying it

Who says to kill cops?



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12 Jul 2016, 4:36 pm

AspE wrote:
gingerpickles wrote:
AspE wrote:


They are protesting the situation. The country has to respond to their concerns. How, exactly, I don't know, maybe listen to their leaders?


Arrest them more likely the best thing to do with these leaders. Someon can do time to say "kill jews" but not "kill whites" ? "kill cops" ?
What all the help , lobbies, ACORN and s**t has them get Obummer elected but they can't use their vote to concentrate on local politics? Their representatives?

I'm not buying it

Who says to kill cops?


They're trying to link that one crazy shooter in Dallas to all of BLM. It's as stupid as it is insulting. I would hope these people know better but alas it appears many do not.



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12 Jul 2016, 4:45 pm

http://www.usnews.com/news/politics/art ... -was-right

Hey this is a good example of a typical Trump supporter.

There, you see how insulting that is. Finding examples of despicable behavior and trying to use that to color the opposition is a very dishonest and sleazy tactic.



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12 Jul 2016, 4:49 pm

Lukeda420 wrote:
Jacoby wrote:
Lukeda420 wrote:
Jacoby,

You're being incredibly insulting. For you to keep trying to paint a negative picture of a peaceful movement by focusing on the outliers. Especially trying to link the shooter with BLM. They may have been mad at the same thing but the shooter was not affiliated with them. The amount of willful ignorance you display on these forums is astounding.


I don't do anything or make any bigger assumptions that hasn't been done tenfold to my side, if you dislike that then perhaps your side shouldn't of escalated political discourse to such a degree. I see a violent leaderless directionless protest movement that is doing more harm than good for their cause. These people aren't the flower children, they're not being led by Ghandi or MLK, there isn't anything peaceful about their rhetoric.


You see everything through a red lens so it's no surprise that you see things that way. If you would extricate yourself from the bubble you'll understand. Until then you'll have The Donald leading you around by the nose. Maybe if you stepped away from those right wing sites for a while you might stop being wrong as much. You've made so many factually incorrect posts here that I'm sure you're used to it by now though.


What "right wing" sites do you think I visit? I'm really curious since I probably read more from left wing sources than anywhere else. I see everything thru a "red lens" even tho I'm not a Republican and hate the leadership of the party. What is factually incorrect about what I said? I'm an astute person, I pay attention and am not led by the nose by anyone which I cannot say for the people believe what they see on cable news and social media which has glorified and promoted BLM, they've given legitimacy to their false narratives. Do you think BLM is helping their cause? Do you think they're winning the hearts and minds? I don't think that was ever the intention.



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12 Jul 2016, 4:51 pm

Lukeda420 wrote:
AspE wrote:
gingerpickles wrote:
AspE wrote:


They are protesting the situation. The country has to respond to their concerns. How, exactly, I don't know, maybe listen to their leaders?


Arrest them more likely the best thing to do with these leaders. Someon can do time to say "kill jews" but not "kill whites" ? "kill cops" ?
What all the help , lobbies, ACORN and s**t has them get Obummer elected but they can't use their vote to concentrate on local politics? Their representatives?

I'm not buying it

Who says to kill cops?


They're trying to link that one crazy shooter in Dallas to all of BLM. It's as stupid as it is insulting. I would hope these people know better but alas it appears many do not.


You're acting like that is the only incidence of violence, that guy was extremist and outlier but he wasn't the only one nor does that mean that the rhetoric used by BLM is in any way peaceful.



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12 Jul 2016, 4:55 pm

Jacoby wrote:
Lukeda420 wrote:
Jacoby wrote:
Lukeda420 wrote:
Jacoby,

You're being incredibly insulting. For you to keep trying to paint a negative picture of a peaceful movement by focusing on the outliers. Especially trying to link the shooter with BLM. They may have been mad at the same thing but the shooter was not affiliated with them. The amount of willful ignorance you display on these forums is astounding.


I don't do anything or make any bigger assumptions that hasn't been done tenfold to my side, if you dislike that then perhaps your side shouldn't of escalated political discourse to such a degree. I see a violent leaderless directionless protest movement that is doing more harm than good for their cause. These people aren't the flower children, they're not being led by Ghandi or MLK, there isn't anything peaceful about their rhetoric.


You see everything through a red lens so it's no surprise that you see things that way. If you would extricate yourself from the bubble you'll understand. Until then you'll have The Donald leading you around by the nose. Maybe if you stepped away from those right wing sites for a while you might stop being wrong as much. You've made so many factually incorrect posts here that I'm sure you're used to it by now though.


What "right wing" sites do you think I visit? I'm really curious since I probably read more from left wing sources than anywhere else. I see everything thru a "red lens" even tho I'm not a Republican and hate the leadership of the party. What is factually incorrect about what I said? I'm an astute person, I pay attention and am not led by the nose by anyone which I cannot say for the people believe what they see on cable news and social media which has glorified and promoted BLM, they've given legitimacy to their false narratives. Do you think BLM is helping their cause? Do you think they're winning the hearts and minds? I don't think that was ever the intention.


:lmao: :lmao: :lmao:

Oh, Jacoby :roll:



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12 Jul 2016, 4:56 pm

gingerpickles wrote:
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They are protesting the situation. The country has to respond to their concerns. How, exactly, I don't know, maybe listen to their leaders?


Arrest them more likely the best thing to do with these leaders. Someon can do time to say "kill jews" but not "kill whites" ? "kill cops" ?
What all the help , lobbies, ACORN and s**t has them get Obummer elected but they can't use their vote to concentrate on local politics? Their representatives?

I'm not buying it



ACORN? That was just a bogeyman created by the right out of a legitimate organization that helped poor people. If anything, it was that right wing little weasel who slandered them by way of a highly edited video.


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12 Jul 2016, 4:58 pm

Jacoby wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Jacoby wrote:
AspE wrote:
Jacoby wrote:
AspE wrote:
Jacoby wrote:
...we all want accountability but mob justice is not justice

I agree. Which is why the movement is non-violent.


Why do you say it's non-violent? Because they say they are? The rhetoric certainly has not been non-violent, there has been incidences of violence against police and at these protests all around the country. They've arrested hundreds of people, they've injured police at these protests with fireworks and rocks. What are they protesting, against the due process of these officers in these specific incidences? They've already made their minds up about the guilt of these people. Agitators are looking to spark confrontations just like they did in Ferguson. Do we need a city to burned? Do we need more officers to die?

The incidents of violence are minor, the kind of thing you might expect when tensions are high, (no different to a typical Trump rally) but (unless you listen to Fox News) no rioting, burning, looting, etc.

They are protesting the situation. The country has to respond to their concerns. How, exactly, I don't know, maybe listen to their leaders?


What leaders?

And find me one Trump rally were a cop or anybody was murder or pelted with rocks or anybody was even injured. Perhaps they're similar to the protests outside Trump rallies but I don't think you want to go for that narrative.

Do we need a city to be burned? Is that what it's going to take?


No injuries or violence at Trump rallies?!?!?! Those protestors who got punched and shoved, and threatened certainly would disagree.


Far more Trump supporters have been attacked by protesters than there other way around, you know that is a fact. You have like 2 or 3 incidences whereas the other side hear literally has had multiple riots and have attacked people.


I saw only one news report where that sort of thing happened.


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12 Jul 2016, 5:00 pm

Lukeda420 wrote:
Jacoby wrote:
Lukeda420 wrote:
Jacoby wrote:
Lukeda420 wrote:
Jacoby,

You're being incredibly insulting. For you to keep trying to paint a negative picture of a peaceful movement by focusing on the outliers. Especially trying to link the shooter with BLM. They may have been mad at the same thing but the shooter was not affiliated with them. The amount of willful ignorance you display on these forums is astounding.


I don't do anything or make any bigger assumptions that hasn't been done tenfold to my side, if you dislike that then perhaps your side shouldn't of escalated political discourse to such a degree. I see a violent leaderless directionless protest movement that is doing more harm than good for their cause. These people aren't the flower children, they're not being led by Ghandi or MLK, there isn't anything peaceful about their rhetoric.


You see everything through a red lens so it's no surprise that you see things that way. If you would extricate yourself from the bubble you'll understand. Until then you'll have The Donald leading you around by the nose. Maybe if you stepped away from those right wing sites for a while you might stop being wrong as much. You've made so many factually incorrect posts here that I'm sure you're used to it by now though.


What "right wing" sites do you think I visit? I'm really curious since I probably read more from left wing sources than anywhere else. I see everything thru a "red lens" even tho I'm not a Republican and hate the leadership of the party. What is factually incorrect about what I said? I'm an astute person, I pay attention and am not led by the nose by anyone which I cannot say for the people believe what they see on cable news and social media which has glorified and promoted BLM, they've given legitimacy to their false narratives. Do you think BLM is helping their cause? Do you think they're winning the hearts and minds? I don't think that was ever the intention.


:lmao: :lmao: :lmao:

Oh, Jacoby :roll:


Care to add anything to any discussion?