The rush to blame autism after tragedies at schools

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Well I don't think just because you have metal detectors and armed guards, that that equals being run like a prison.

An airport for example has metal detectors and armed guards, yet people are still free to walk around and do as they please in the terminal. No one thinks of it as a prison.

So I thought a school could be looked at the same way. As for it costing too much, I thought gun control would still cost something as well, and still possibly be less effective. It seems that a lot of people want to make an omelette, but no one wants to break a few eggs, to do so.

As for gun control, I don't what else could be done since people are allowed to own guns, so what can you do really?

Schools are already run like military camps so the addition of metal detectors is only going to be a concern if you try and smuggle guns into school or had an alien implant inserted in your arm/leg.

That makes sense. What more can be done about gun control though, make new laws where people cannot own guns at all?

How about implement similar laws as other countries that don't have mass shooting problems? Like our country, Canada, for instance. How about not having 101 guns per 100 citizens in your country? How about making it more difficult to obtain firearms in the first place? Especially for mentally ill violent people who are known & reported threats. How about making it more difficult to legally obtain firearms, especially ones that have the primary purpose of killing as many people as possible in a military application, so that in turn the black market prices of said firearms skyrockets, keeping even more of them out of the hands of deranged people? There are plenty of things that can be done instead of the status quo that makes it easier for someone to buy an AR-15 than a bottle of vodka.

Why does it have to be all or nothing?

Why can't it be sensible gun control laws, and enforcement, like we have in Canada? Like Australia has.. or Japan.. or any other country that has sensible gun control laws that make it much more difficult for violent criminals to get their hands on firearms.

People can still own & use guns here. They can take them to a range and fire them. They can go hunting. etc. But it's not as easy as buying a 6-pack of beer to go buy guns & ammo like it is across the line. One cannot stroll into Walmart and buy a military grade firearm and boatload of ammo on a whim. And because it requires a lengthy process to obtain such things here, lazy criminals don't usually tend to bother. So many times in the USA guns are used as weapons of opportunity because they're so plentiful and easily obtained. If they weren't, they wouldn't be in the hands of so many people who should never have access to them in the first place.

I doubt creating better regulations and strengthening as well as actually enforcing already existing gun laws would cost more than installing metal detectors and hiring guards for all of the schools.

Also what can be done? regulating the kinds of gun a civilian can own, actually running background checks and not allowing people with a history of domestic abuse or other violence to buy one, requiring people to take a test, like you have to do to drive a car...there are lots of things that could be done aside from nothing.

Oh okay I see. I'm Canadian as well but do not know a lot of the specifics of the American laws. I saw the movie The Terminator and they show The Terminator buy a fully automatic UZI submachine gun in a gun store, but is that realistic, and people can buy fully automatic guns in the US?

Also, as for AR-15's, AR-15s are semi-automatic, with detachable box magazines, just like any regular hunting rifle, so I don't see AR-15s as more dangerous than the average hunting rifle, unless I am wrong. So if you made AR-15s illegal, people could still go around killing, with semi-automatic rifles of other kinds, and it would only make sense to make them all illegal to own, and not just the AR-15 only, wouldn't it?

The AR-15 is being singled out because it's the most popular semi-auto killing machine used by mass shooters in the USA and has thus become a symbol of such events. It, and other weapons like it, are marketed as being intimidating, tactical, deadly, fierce and so on, so of course angry losers who wish to kill others choose it as their penis compensator of choice. You are correct that other guns can be just as deadly. Sensible gun control laws would keep all such weapons out of civilian hands. People would be able to still buy, own, and use weapons for target shooting & hunting - just as they can in Canada. Civilians have no need for guns that have the express purpose, by design, of killing as many people as possible as fast as possible. That's why they're military issue only in pretty much every other civilized nation on the planet.

I concede that a massive part of the problem is the gun nut shoot first ask questions later mentality that seems to be hyper prevalent South of the border. These nuts would shoot each other with zip guns made from pen barrels if they had to. Besides easy access to firearms, there's a culture problem in the USA and it's not going to be fixed quickly with the addition of better gun control laws. They need to truly work at this over decades, generations even.

But I don't think that making the AR-15 illegal is going to make any difference, cause then killers will just move onto another semi-automatic rifle to use for killing.

Sure the AR-15 has a military appearance, but even if it were made illegal, it's not like killers are going to be "awe, now I can't murder with a stylistic looking rifle, so therefore, it's not worth murdering at all". When it fact, they will use any semi-automatic rifle, it won't matter how "cool" looking the rifle is.

Getting rid of the AR-15 won't reduce murder, it will just reduce how "cool" looking the murder weapon is. So I feel like therefore, gun control is not going to do anything to solve the problems, if all they are doing is illegalizing the AR-15.

So then ban the sale & ownership of all such semi-automatic rifles to civilians.

Just because one step of gun control isn't a panacea to solve the entire problem doesn't mean it shouldn't be implemented. If banning AR-15's dramatically reduces mass shootings, yet they've switched up to some other weapon, then ban that one and others like it. It's not rocket science to figure out that simply allowing unfettered access to military grade weapons isn't working as people have proven that they're incapable of self regulating their behaviour and thus government legislative intervention is in order.

It's a different problem, but here we're faced with being on of the money laundering capitals of the entire planet right now. We finally have a Provincial government that's taking measures to combat this. Last year, during the busiest month of money laundering through our casinos, one casino took in $20 Million in suspicious cash transactions. Since the government crackdown on casinos, they took in only $200K in such transactions in February. Now the government is putting supercar ($150K+) dealerships under the microscope to have a look for suspicious cash purchases. They acknowledge that whenever they combat one method, another springs up, but accept that they'll have to then move & act on it and continue to inspect and regulate in order to stop the flood of the kleptocractic class' ill gotten gains into Vancouver real estate. They're not going to say "ah well, f**k it, they'll just keep finding another way so we're not going to even bother trying on behalf of our citizens." No, instead they're doing the job they were elected to do. Next up they'll likely have to crack down on gold bullion dealers and more currency exchange businesses, art & antiquities dealers, crypto currency exchanges etc etc until the problem is under control. Hopefully they just keep at it forever and eventually there's some sanity in our real estate market again.

Same same applies to progressive gun control laws that eventually lead to fewer and fewer people being murdered by mass shooters slaughtering students & church goers and the like.

Yeah that makes sense, as long as they ban more than just the AR-15 only. In Canada, the laws seem similar in the sense, that civilians are allowed to own semi-automatic weapons, as well as the AR-15 hear as well as I understand it.

So I guess our laws are similar?

Not sure, I haven’t had a need to read either. But a couple things I am sure of: Guns and ammo are not anywhere near as readily available here as they are in the USA, and our culture is dramatically different with regards to guns. We simply don’t have a gun but culture, and because of it far fewer firearms, and because of that far fewer instances of gun violence.

People who argue that laws & regulations aren’t any way to improve the situation because some criminals will still obtain and use guns inappropriately need to stop and think about their argument. Just because some people will still speed and crash, should roads not have speed limits? Just because some people will still rape others, should rape not be a crime? Just because some people will still be thieves, should theft not be a crime? Just because some people will still murder, should murder not be a crime? Just because some people will defraud others, should regulations not be in place to prevent businesses, banks, and individuals from doing so without consequences?

That’s how weak their arguments sound when they say laws don’t do any good so there’s no sense in having any.

Oh yeah, murder is still a crime for sure, just like rape and theft, for sure. Just not sure what can be done to stop the shootings, without banning semi-autos all together, which I don't think they will do. But if they do that, then shooters will resort using bolt action rifles, and things like that, but at least those rifles do not have as fast of a cycle rate.

When Autism Is Perceived As Dangerous - audio

This f*cking makes me angry. The bullies of the school make fun of this poor kid, throw rocks at him, and make him out to be a school-shooter-in-waiting on social media, while no one else does anything about it. Keep it up, brats, this is how a school shooter is made. I doubt this Owen kid would ever do such a thing, but the next one just might.

I had made a post regarding how the media often immediately jumps to someone being autistic whenever there are school tragedies etc. In fact, I remember when I was in high school there was this pestering bully whom constantly claimed, that I would be the next Jeffrey Dahmer, all because I tended to keep to myself and have difficulty with social scenarios. Honestly, I tend to have a more Dirty Harry Vigilante like persona, as I don't care for criminals at all but, that does not mean I go into expressions of anger and so forth. These days, I choose to remain honorable,compassionate,kindhearted
towards all people regardless.