Trump's Gun Plan Could "Harden Schools"

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http://denver.cbslocal.com/2018/03/11/trump-harden-schools-shootings/

I don't have any problem with the president saying that teachers, et al., at schools who WANT TO carry, should be able to do so.

I think alot of people are getting their panties in a twist because the MSM keeps using phrases like "arming teachers". Nobody (including the president) is saying "ALL teachers have to be armed"----what we're saying is, if people already have the training (say, an ex-cop or military person), already have their own gun(s), and are interested-in / supportive of the idea, they should be able to carry.

I think it would be totally ridiculous to MANDATE such a thing----if, for no other reason, than because if someone is scared of guns, they, most likely, will do something stupid.

I don't understand. We're already failing to adequately fund schools and Trump thinks the best rationale for giving teachers bonuses is guns?

He's not even willing to hire more security or train police?

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If a teacher is given a gun, he/she MUST obtain the proper training.

Otherwise, the gun could, easily, be used against that teacher.

Or there’s the same rationale provided by a university professor who pointed out that it’s impossible for an educator to educate if they’re constantly having to assess threats and keep themselves in a heightened state of defensive awareness while carrying a concealed weapon.. they’re teachers, not spies. This plan is beyond ridiculous.

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No for supporting trump. Because doing so is deplorable.

Ok but it's still bothersome that the fist thought is to arm people with a totally unrelated job before dedicating any more staff at all to stop indiscriminate killing. It's not thought through at all.

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"Standing on a well-chilled cinder, we see the fading of the suns, and try to recall the vanished brilliance of the origin of the worlds."
-Georges Lemaitre
"I fly through hyperspace, in my green computer interface"
-Gem Tos

Frankly I no longer recognize the president anyway. He claims patriotism yet selectively loves only the red parts of the map. I'm not a citizen of the divided states.

Everything he does embarrasses me as someone who once pledged allegiance.

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"Standing on a well-chilled cinder, we see the fading of the suns, and try to recall the vanished brilliance of the origin of the worlds."
-Georges Lemaitre
"I fly through hyperspace, in my green computer interface"
-Gem Tos

The school districts will find a way to create multiple bureaucratic blockades to teachers carrying weapons on school grounds, via paperwork, extra trainings, etc. They won’t risk being liable for an accident, or someone having an emotional breakdown and shooting the copier machine, or the vast hordes of angry parents who won’t want their kids in classrooms with guns. There was a great Dilbert comic years ago I’ve seen hanging in mutiple teacher lounges that describes a new office policy as a ‘dead woodchuck under the front porch’. This armed teacher idea is a woodchuck - it will make a big stink for a little while, then fade away with no lasting effect.

Ok but practically zero teachers even if they are gun owners want to carry guns around students, kids don't want this and it doesn't mean any more dedicated security staff. How half-assed is that? No extra dedicated individuals to protect kids? We already know this plan is totally ineffective. All it means is a slightly greater number of bullets flying on campuses not to mention the obvious risks of crossfire. Bullets can go straight through your strawman bad guy & into innocent bystanders.

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"Standing on a well-chilled cinder, we see the fading of the suns, and try to recall the vanished brilliance of the origin of the worlds."
-Georges Lemaitre
"I fly through hyperspace, in my green computer interface"
-Gem Tos