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15 Oct 2018, 7:56 am

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15 Oct 2018, 8:00 am

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“In all fascist mythic pasts,” he writes, “an extreme version of the patriarchal family reigns supreme, even just a few generations ago…

“In the rhetoric of extreme nationalists, such a glorious past has been lost by the humiliation brought on by globalism, liberal cosmopolitanism, and respect for ‘universal values’ such as equality. These values are supposed to have made the nation weak in the face of real and threatening challenges to the nation’s existence.”

Stanley’s acute awareness of the power of the term, and the subtlety of his argument here, must contribute to the fact that he does not explicitly brand Trump a “fascist”. Nor does he harp on “Make America great again”.

It is a misfortune of yet-unknown dimensions that he does not have to.



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15 Oct 2018, 7:45 pm

America has long had a proto-fascist streak a mile wide and deep.



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15 Oct 2018, 9:05 pm

What is happening to America is going on to a greater or lesser degree elsewhere around the world. I fear future historians will remember this as the Age of the Strongman.


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15 Oct 2018, 9:26 pm

i'm not that enthusiastic about living here for too many more years of this fascist mess.



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15 Oct 2018, 9:57 pm

There's hope that freedom-loving Republicans will defeat the fascist and pass Tax cut 2.0.


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15 Oct 2018, 10:01 pm

:huh: :scratch: tax cuts just for the wealthy only empower more fascists to come out of the woodwork. and saying "freedom-loving repugnicans" is just like saying "shining blackness." none of today's GOPers care not one whit about anybody's "freedom" other than their own, to hell with everybody else lacking their financial talents.



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15 Oct 2018, 10:02 pm

auntblabby wrote:
:huh: :scratch: tax cuts just for the wealthy only empower more fascists to come out of the woodwork.

tax cut 2.0 is to the poor/make the middle class tax cuts permanent , and offer additional tax cuts and benefits for the middle class
https://www.businessinsider.com/house-g ... ote-2018-9

The evil Fascists (Democrats mostly) want to keep our money and use it for their own plans.


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15 Oct 2018, 10:03 pm

what about the working class? the working class only gets a crumb thrown to them during democratic administrations and only the back of the hand from GOP ones such as the present. I got NO GD tax cut!! ! but by all means go ahead and continue to invert reality to suit your own class purposes.



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15 Oct 2018, 10:05 pm

auntblabby wrote:
what about the working class?

The article says "households in the lowest income quintile (households making up to $28,600) would receive an average tax cut of $100, or a 0.5% boost to after-tax income".
https://www.businessinsider.com/house-g ... ote-2018-9

Thank you, president Trump.


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15 Oct 2018, 10:05 pm

that is NOT working class. people at mickey D's don't make that much money.



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15 Oct 2018, 10:07 pm

auntblabby wrote:
that is NOT working class. people at mickey D's don't make that much money.

That's *household* income.

$28,000/yr household income is poor/working class people.


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15 Oct 2018, 10:08 pm

LoveNotHate wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
:huh: :scratch: tax cuts just for the wealthy only empower more fascists to come out of the woodwork.

tax cut 2.0 is to the poor/make the middle class tax cuts permanent , and offer additional tax cuts and benefits for the middle class
https://www.businessinsider.com/house-g ... ote-2018-9

The evil Fascists (Democrats mostly) want to keep our money and use it for their own plans.


The only tax cuts made permanent will be those for the rich. And as always, those funds will end up in the savings accounts of the wealthy, rather than being reinvested, meaning no new workers would be hired.


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15 Oct 2018, 10:28 pm

LoveNotHate wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
that is NOT working class. people at mickey D's don't make that much money.

That's *household* income.

$28,000/yr household income is poor/working class people.

that is "middle class" to me, I don't make that much.



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15 Oct 2018, 10:30 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
LoveNotHate wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
:huh: :scratch: tax cuts just for the wealthy only empower more fascists to come out of the woodwork.

tax cut 2.0 is to the poor/make the middle class tax cuts permanent , and offer additional tax cuts and benefits for the middle class
https://www.businessinsider.com/house-g ... ote-2018-9

The evil Fascists (Democrats mostly) want to keep our money and use it for their own plans.


The only tax cuts made permanent will be those for the rich. And as always, those funds will end up in the savings accounts of the wealthy, rather than being reinvested, meaning no new workers would be hired.

you can thank the evil GOP fascists for that. "thank you sir, may I have another?" time for the pitchforks and flaming torches IMHO.



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15 Oct 2018, 10:40 pm

auntblabby wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
LoveNotHate wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
:huh: :scratch: tax cuts just for the wealthy only empower more fascists to come out of the woodwork.

tax cut 2.0 is to the poor/make the middle class tax cuts permanent , and offer additional tax cuts and benefits for the middle class
https://www.businessinsider.com/house-g ... ote-2018-9

The evil Fascists (Democrats mostly) want to keep our money and use it for their own plans.


The only tax cuts made permanent will be those for the rich. And as always, those funds will end up in the savings accounts of the wealthy, rather than being reinvested, meaning no new workers would be hired.

you can thank the evil GOP fascists for that. "thank you sir, may I have another?" time for the pitchforks and flaming torches IMHO.


Let the wealthy right see the shades of the French Revolution.


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