Trump Names Press Again As "Enemy Of The People"

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29 Oct 2018, 2:38 pm

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-press-enemy-of-the-people_us_5bd6fee5e4b0a8f17ef9d3b6


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29 Oct 2018, 3:07 pm

It depends on if we want an informed public or not.

Maybe the press is doing us a favor by keeping people stupid.

George Carlin points out .... "the OWNERS don't want an informed public, because then you would know how much you're getting FXXked-over by the system"


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29 Oct 2018, 3:10 pm

He's right.


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29 Oct 2018, 3:13 pm

If the press reports objectively, then I think the press is an invaluable asset of the people.

Propaganda - information, especially of a biased or misleading nature, used to promote or publicize a particular political cause or point of view.

If the press does not report objectively, then I think the press can be detrimental to "the people".

Years ago, "the news" was delivered in an objective manner (whether or not it really was is another matter). Edward R. Murrow, Walter Cronkite, Peter Jennings, etc didn't report news and then give their own opinions in the same breath or otherwise give obvious indications on how they felt about what they were reporting.

Years ago, there were separate shows related to punditry such as The Mclaughlin Group, William F. Buckley, etc where opinions were given and different points of view were offered.

Today, punditry is not separate from reporting. They're intertwined to the point of often being indistinguishable from each other.

I want the news, I want the facts, I want to make my own determinations. I seriously couldn't care less what some talking head thinks about anything.



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29 Oct 2018, 4:18 pm

I miss the old style of news reporting. We lost something precious. Occasionally, just on few and far between occasions, I would criticise this impassiveness of news reporters. I feel ashamed of that looking back, I had not properly grasped how important it was and that it was a quality.



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29 Oct 2018, 10:15 pm


the same general things are happening today by the same types of people.



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31 Oct 2018, 1:51 pm

JohnPowell wrote:
He's right.


And what is your logic? Did you actually read the article?


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31 Oct 2018, 4:20 pm

A free press is so essential to a functioning representative democracy it's referred to as the "fourth estate".
When that Fascistic sack of s**t attacks the press, he's attacking the foundations of democracy itself.
Trump’s Lies
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31 Oct 2018, 5:37 pm

Piobaire wrote:
A free press is so essential to a functioning representative democracy it's referred to as the "fourth estate".
When that Fascistic sack of s**t attacks the press, he's attacking the foundations of democracy itself.
Trump’s Lies
Trump lies. And lies. And lies.


Are they less free cause someone says they enemy? Has trump shut them down? Has he locked them up? Nope and nope. Seems the president is just using his freedom of speech to talk about how horrible the leftist news media is.



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31 Oct 2018, 7:09 pm

sly279 wrote:
Piobaire wrote:
A free press is so essential to a functioning representative democracy it's referred to as the "fourth estate".
When that Fascistic sack of s**t attacks the press, he's attacking the foundations of democracy itself.
Trump’s Lies
Trump lies. And lies. And lies.


Are they less free cause someone says they enemy? Has trump shut them down? Has he locked them up? Nope and nope. Seems the president is just using his freedom of speech to talk about how horrible the leftist news media is.


If you or I think the media is the enemy, that's meaningless, because there's nothing we can do about it.

When the Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of the United States of America follows Faux News and Breitbart and calls the legitimate media "the enemy", be afraid. Be very afraid.



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31 Oct 2018, 7:11 pm

A lot of the press looks like a tabloid to me. I think it's responsible for a lot of the hostility, which they've cashed in on big time.



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31 Oct 2018, 7:19 pm

Since the freedom of the press is protected under the Constitution then perhaps Trump should also name the Constitution as an enemy of the people.


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31 Oct 2018, 7:24 pm

RetroGamer87 wrote:
Since the freedom of the press is protected under the Constitution then perhaps Trump should also name the Constitution as an enemy of the people.


The press should be free to report on facts objectively. If the press willfully and knowingly deceives the people (propaganda), such acts should be illegal and should not be immune by hiding behind the "freedom of the press".

There are advertising laws against knowingly lying to people about a product to further an agenda (ie profit) based on deception. Picture wanton and willful deception by corporations who would hide behind an excuse of "freedom of advertising" if there was such a thing.



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31 Oct 2018, 7:30 pm

Can & should are two very different things. Some people read the news in order to maintain the ability to discern between garbage rhetoric & real world events. You should go read https://www.theonion.com


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31 Oct 2018, 8:54 pm

RetroGamer87 wrote:
Since the freedom of the press is protected under the Constitution then perhaps Trump should also name the Constitution as an enemy of the people.

or the constitution as it is at present" before those pathologically lyin' sacks of parrot-droppings decide to use this latest Dotard thing [executive order cancelling birthright citizenship] to call a constitutional convention and amend-out all things their paymasters don't like [such as any civil rights for any non-white/non-wealthy/non-property owning bigwigs, birth control/abortion for the 99%, health care for the "useless eater" working class, et al.]



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31 Oct 2018, 9:30 pm

Drake wrote:
I miss the old style of news reporting. We lost something precious. Occasionally, just on few and far between occasions, I would criticise this impassiveness of news reporters. I feel ashamed of that looking back, I had not properly grasped how important it was and that it was a quality.


Sources like Reuters and AP seem to have retained some of that integrity.

A lot of the rest though seems to be into sensationalism to generate gargantuan revenue. Hearing that Megyn Kelly was getting paid 50 million dollars shows that.

I think the press should be put under a lot more scrutiny and held a lot more accountable.