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13 Dec 2018, 9:59 am

Okay ... so what are YOU going to do about it?



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13 Dec 2018, 10:06 am

I know someone that got a paid vacation day because there was concern about possible gun violence. Uh, you ought to stay home just in case. Don't remember stuff like that happening 30 years ago.



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13 Dec 2018, 10:48 am

Fnord wrote:
Okay ... so what are YOU going to do about it?

After some knucklehead shot up a church in Texas killing 26 people in a community about the same size as ours, I decided to "arm" myself, too; commensurate with my training, expertise, and faith practice.
I'm a Medic; I "carry" any time we leave the house.
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13 Dec 2018, 10:49 am

BTDT wrote:
... Don't remember stuff like that happening 30 years ago.
How quickly they forget.

June 22, 1980 - Daingerfield church shooting. Alvin Lee King III killed five people and wounded 10 others in Dangerfield, Texas.

July 18, 1984 - San Ysidro McDonald's Massacre. 22 people killed by James Oliver Huberty at a McDonald's in San Ysidro, CA.

August 20, 1986 - Oklahoma Post Office Shooting. 15 people killed by Patrick Sherrill at a United States Post Office in Edmond, OK.



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13 Dec 2018, 10:50 am

Piobaire wrote:
Fnord wrote:
Okay ... so what are YOU going to do about it?
After some knucklehead shot up a church in Texas killing 26 people in a community about the same size as ours, I decided to "arm" myself, too; commensurate with my training, expertise, and faith practice. I "carry" any time we leave the house...
Well, good for you!

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13 Dec 2018, 11:24 am

I don't remember folks getting a day off because the employer was worried about possible workplace violence and wanted to protect one of its workers.



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13 Dec 2018, 5:02 pm

BTDT wrote:
I don't remember folks getting a day off because the employer was worried about possible workplace violence and wanted to protect one of its workers.

Happened to my mate's workplace last year; sent everyone home so fast it was almost an evacuation.



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13 Dec 2018, 6:41 pm

Sixty percent of gun violence deaths are suicides.

On average, the annual U.S. suicide rate increased 24% between 1999 and 2014.


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13 Dec 2018, 7:04 pm

Yet the current rate of firearm violence is still far lower than in 1993, when the rate was 6.21 such deaths per 100,000 people, compared with 3.4 in 2016. The high rate in the early 1990s was linked to a variety of conditions, most notably the emergence of a large and violent market for crack cocaine. It's too soon to determine the causes of recent increases in gun violence or whether the upward trend will continue.

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13 Dec 2018, 10:20 pm

Fnord wrote:
BTDT wrote:
... Don't remember stuff like that happening 30 years ago.
How quickly they forget.

June 22, 1980 - Daingerfield church shooting. Alvin Lee King III killed five people and wounded 10 others in Dangerfield, Texas.

July 18, 1984 - San Ysidro McDonald's Massacre. 22 people killed by James Oliver Huberty at a McDonald's in San Ysidro, CA.

August 20, 1986 - Oklahoma Post Office Shooting. 15 people killed by Patrick Sherrill at a United States Post Office in Edmond, OK.


The Oklahoma incident is where the term “going postal” originated.


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13 Dec 2018, 10:23 pm

Big surprise.



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14 Dec 2018, 3:13 pm

I've seen these nonsensical numbers before.

Many of these are suicides or justifiable homicides (self-defence/home invasion, etc.).

And many of these "school shootings" aren't school shootings.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/no ... 610c95e191

https://www.politifact.com/wisconsin/st ... r-2018-an/


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14 Dec 2018, 3:14 pm

Well clearly we need more guns and guns in schools, that is the solution to gun violence.

yes that was sarcasm.


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14 Dec 2018, 3:19 pm

BaronHarkonnen85 wrote:
I've seen these nonsensical numbers before.

Many of these are suicides or justifiable homicides (self-defence/home invasion, etc.).

And many of these "school shootings" aren't school shootings.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/no ... 610c95e191

https://www.politifact.com/wisconsin/st ... r-2018-an/


So there were 8 'actual' school shootings, 3 of which did not result in injury...at least according to your first article.


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14 Dec 2018, 3:24 pm

BaronHarkonnen85 wrote:
I've seen these nonsensical numbers before.

Many of these are suicides or justifiable homicides (self-defence/home invasion, etc.).

And many of these "school shootings" aren't school shootings.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/no ... 610c95e191

https://www.politifact.com/wisconsin/st ... r-2018-an/


Misleading information to further any kind of agenda is one of my biggest "pet peeves". The willful act of using misleading information for "change" represents the sad underbelly of humanity.