North Korea Ignoring Donald Trump as Nuclear Site Expands

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23 Nov 2018, 9:25 pm

North Korea Ignoring Donald Trump as Nuclear Site Expands: Report

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An international nuclear watchdog has warned that North Korea shows no signs of winding down activity at its main nuclear research site, despite President Donald Trump’s assurances the country was moving towards denuclearization.

The United Nations’ International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) issued a statement Thursday noting the North Korea’s Yongbyon nuclear facility remains operational and even shows signs of expansion, Reuters reported.

Yongbyon is believed to be the facility that provides the fissile material for North Korea’s nuclear bombs. Pyongyang is believed to have enough material for around 60 devices as per U.S. intelligence estimates from 2017, according to ABC News.

The new IAEA statement noted that new components now appear to have been brought into Yongbyon for use in a light-water reactor being built there.

IAEA head Yukiya Amano explained: “At the light water reactor, the agency also observed activities consistent with the fabrication of reactor components and the possible transfer of these components into the reactor building,” reporting on the period since August...



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25 Nov 2018, 12:00 pm

Kim Jong Un played Donald Trump like a dime-store ukelele.



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25 Nov 2018, 12:26 pm

They're still waiting for the US to agree to stop practicing blowing up their country.


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25 Nov 2018, 12:28 pm

JohnPowell wrote:
They're still waiting for the US to agree to stop practicing blowing up their country.
:lmao: :lol: :roll:



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25 Nov 2018, 12:46 pm

Fnord wrote:
JohnPowell wrote:
They're still waiting for the US to agree to stop practicing blowing up their country.
:lmao: :lol: :roll:


What's funny? That's the truth and it's a very rational demand. Stop the war games. The US needs to get the hell out of the region.


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25 Nov 2018, 1:45 pm

Thoughtbeast: In your opinion, what measure or measures should the U.S. take in regard to North Korea toward its denuclearization that would be different than the current administration's approach?



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25 Nov 2018, 3:13 pm

JohnPowell wrote:
Fnord wrote:
JohnPowell wrote:
They're still waiting for the US to agree to stop practicing blowing up their country.
:lmao: :lol: :roll:
What's funny? That's the truth and it's a very rational demand. Stop the war games. The US needs to get the hell out of the region.
Why do you hate America?



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25 Nov 2018, 4:04 pm

What an absurd response. I hate the US's foreign policy and my own country's.


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25 Nov 2018, 6:26 pm

Fnord wrote:
Kim Jong Un played Donald Trump like a dime-store ukelele.

Same way they played Obama, bush and Clinton. Hmm so a family of pathological liars and narcissists continue to lie hmm what a shock. Still he got a meeting in person with the North Korean leader which is far more then anything the past presidents got.
Honestly nothing will stop North Korea short of a war that topplers their government



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25 Nov 2018, 6:31 pm

why do you need a war to topple the government?

you don't.


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25 Nov 2018, 6:44 pm

Kiprobalhato wrote:
why do you need a war to topple the government?

you don't.

Yeah cause sitting around hope it would have stopped hitler and nazi Germany

For all we know right now Kim is killing millions in this camps he has across North Korea. How You feel if when you’re older we find out North Korea killed 50million people?

Bribing him didn’t work, sanctions didn’t work, threats didn’t work, his own people have no intention of toppling their god ruler, Nothing will change except he’ll get nukes and become even more extreme.

All the talk of nazis and hitler but Kim is the modern hitler, he’s putting people in work/death camps, he kills those who disagree with him, the whole nation is controlled by him this propaganda is all they get, it’s literally nazi Germany 2.0
I have no doubt he’s committing genocide.
But no one cares and the USA left loves him cause he’s not trump. We stood by and still stand by as genocide happens in Africa. So much for the “never again” after ww2



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25 Nov 2018, 7:23 pm

Kiprobalhato wrote:
why do you need a war to topple the government?

you don't.


Force of arms is only way to topple any government.

If that's your goal. Whether that should be our goal or not is an open question.



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25 Nov 2018, 8:29 pm

sly279 wrote:
Kiprobalhato wrote:
why do you need a war to topple the government?

you don't.

Yeah cause sitting around hope it would have stopped hitler and nazi Germany

For all we know right now Kim is killing millions in this camps he has across North Korea. How You feel if when you’re older we find out North Korea killed 50million people?

Bribing him didn’t work, sanctions didn’t work, threats didn’t work, his own people have no intention of toppling their god ruler, Nothing will change except he’ll get nukes and become even more extreme.

All the talk of nazis and hitler but Kim is the modern hitler, he’s putting people in work/death camps, he kills those who disagree with him, the whole nation is controlled by him this propaganda is all they get, it’s literally nazi Germany 2.0
I have no doubt he’s committing genocide.
But no one cares and the USA left loves him cause he’s not trump. We stood by and still stand by as genocide happens in Africa. So much for the “never again” after ww2


Sentence one I agree with.

Sentence number three I also agree with. EVERY POTUS gets played by the Pyonyang protection racked. Trump isn't really getting played either worse or less bad than his predecessors.

Everything else in your post is nonsense.

Kim is indeed a totalitarian dictator. Stalin in miniature. More like Stalin IMHO, but you could compare to him to either if your only talking about how he rules his own people.

But on the world scene he is not comparable to Hitler at all for the obvious reason that Hitler ruled a powerful middle sized industrial nation that committed military aggression on a huge scale and succeeded in enslaving the whole continent of Europe. Kim rules the weaker portion of the one middle sized nation of Korea. The pro American South has more than twice the population size of the north. So Kim is like Hitler if Hitler never conquered Europe, AND if Hitler never even got to rule to three forths of Germany itself. Pound for pound he maybe as nasty as Hitler, but Kim is a nasty pipsqeak terrier barking at our heels, and not a wolf in our own weight class coming at our door the way Hitler did.

And HOW could Kim "Kim kill fifty million people"? The entire population of North Korea was nine million at the time of the Korean War, and has grown to only 26 million. He doesn't have enough people under his control to do that.

Stalin and Mao ruled continental sized countries. And Germany and Japan were middle sized countries that succeeded in conquering continental sized chunks of the world. So the German, Japanese, Chinese, and Russian, regimes were able commit genocides on a continental scale. Kim only has his miserable little third of country to kick around. And his motivation is not conquest, but a desperate fear of the collapse of his regime.

The left does not love Kim. Its Trump himself who loves to brag about his partnership with his new found buddy Kim. And its Trump who accused the South Koreans of "laughing at the US because we pay for their defense", and it was Trump (not the mainstream GOP,nor the Dems, nor the US military, nor "the left" )who wants to pull our troops out of South Korea. Talk about appeasement.

You seem to WANT the US to invade the North just get rid of Kim. In two words "regime change". IF you glance at the map you would instantly realize that if we did that that China would invade back and we would be in WWIII.

And besides...I thought all of you Trump supporters were Trump supporters precisely because you are sick of the US doing "regime changes" and nation building.



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25 Nov 2018, 9:01 pm

He has camps all over the nation that he sends people to, some defectors say he’s killing people and working people to death in them, sound familiar? Who else sent u wanted people to work/death camps?
We won’t know until his government is gone and we can go inspect the camps, just as we didn’t know they were gassing and burning Jews in Germany until we liberated the camps

Before he Negotiated with Kim back when he was doing threats people on the left including celebrities Praised Kim even saying he’d make a better president for the USA.

Pepperidge farms remembers

So he kills 3 million or 1 million or 500,000
Genocide is genocide .
Who knows how many people they’ve killed last 50 years or so.

Being a trump supporter has no unifying reason



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27 Nov 2018, 3:57 pm

Is THAT what you're upset about?

A few talking heads on TV making lame jokes about Kim being a better POTUS than Trump?

Get over it already.

Nobody "took Kim's side". Some (rightly or wrong, and maybe wrongly) criticized Trump for making threatening moves at Kim because they were afraid it would provoke Kim. Not because they were taking Kim's side. Not the same thing.



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27 Nov 2018, 6:38 pm

naturalplastic wrote:
Is THAT what you're upset about?

A few talking heads on TV making lame jokes about Kim being a better POTUS than Trump?

Get over it already.

Nobody "took Kim's side". Some (rightly or wrong, and maybe wrongly) criticized Trump for making threatening moves at Kim because they were afraid it would provoke Kim. Not because they were taking Kim's side. Not the same thing.


celebrities And politicians, as well as lots of people on social media.

Quite a few people will side with whoever trump is against no matter who that is, so they liked Kim when trump was threatening him and now hate him after trump negotiated with him it’s quite comical.