Elizabeth Warren Running for President in 2020

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11 Jan 2019, 12:51 am

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I actually agree, but it doesn't mean the Republicans are any better. Vote Green!



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11 Jan 2019, 1:10 am

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Sorta like Trump pretending to be a self made billionaire.


Pretty much a false equivalency. Self made or not he really is a billionaire. And did he get all 3 billion from Fred?



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11 Jan 2019, 1:36 am

EzraS wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
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Yup.

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Sorta like Trump pretending to be a self made billionaire.


Pretty much a false equivalency. Self made or not he really is a billionaire. And did he get all 3 billion from Fred?


Actually, Trump probably isn't as rich as he says he is. We could only know from his tax returns, and he's desperate not to release those.
And I'll add about Trump, he definitely didn't write his own books, either.


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11 Jan 2019, 5:53 am

Kraichgauer wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Darmok wrote:
Yup.

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Sorta like Trump pretending to be a self made billionaire.


Pretty much a false equivalency. Self made or not he really is a billionaire. And did he get all 3 billion from Fred?


Actually, Trump probably isn't as rich as he says he is. We could only know from his tax returns, and he's desperate not to release those.
And I'll add about Trump, he definitely didn't write his own books, either.


I should have said sorta a false equivalency. I just know his official net worth is 3.1 billion fwiw. But he'd be pretending to have things in common with the advantaged. Which he does anyways whatever his net worth is. Seems different than a rich white person pretending to be a minority et al.

What if you had one candidate who pretended to be rich and another candidate who pretended to be autistic? Which one is worse?



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11 Jan 2019, 10:52 am

EzraS wrote:
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Yup.

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Sorta like Trump pretending to be a self made billionaire.


Pretty much a false equivalency. Self made or not he really is a billionaire. And did he get all 3 billion from Fred?


Actually, Trump probably isn't as rich as he says he is. We could only know from his tax returns, and he's desperate not to release those.
And I'll add about Trump, he definitely didn't write his own books, either.


I should have said sorta a false equivalency. I just know his official net worth is 3.1 billion fwiw. But he'd be pretending to have things in common with the advantaged. Which he does anyways whatever his net worth is. Seems different than a rich white person pretending to be a minority et al.

What if you had one candidate who pretended to be rich and another candidate who pretended to be autistic? Which one is worse?


As there are so many self-diagnosed autistics, it's impossible to prove that someone was faking it. Pretending to be rich is just sad.


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13 Jan 2019, 10:59 pm

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Trump and his old man for years denied their German heritage by claiming to be Swedish; a thing I, as a German American, find particularly egregious. They damn well knew they weren't Swedes, but said they were. Does he deserve to be lampooned for that?
Aren't the Scandinavian countries German colonies? I know they're related somehow. For awhile after WWII it wasn't cool to be German. You need to put their denial (if it actually happened) in the context of when they denied it. Not in the context of today. But then again you liberals wanna put all of human history in the context of today and want people to skip straight to the (theoretical)end of the evolutionary process and be perfect instead of being allowed to make mistakes. By your logic the democratic party should be abolished because your party were the original racists. The KKK were and are democrats and most slave owners were democrats. So according to your logic, you should all kill yourselves.


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13 Jan 2019, 11:04 pm

no they're not german colonies.

the scandi countries save for finland speak languages similar to german, and they share folklore and culture. they were never german colonies and are totally sovereign.


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13 Jan 2019, 11:07 pm

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cool, that makes two parties that are appallingly disconnected from average americans.

is it worth celebrating?


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13 Jan 2019, 11:20 pm

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Trump and his old man for years denied their German heritage by claiming to be Swedish; a thing I, as a German American, find particularly egregious. They damn well knew they weren't Swedes, but said they were. Does he deserve to be lampooned for that?
Aren't the Scandinavian countries German colonies? I know they're related somehow. For awhile after WWII it wasn't cool to be German. You need to put their denial (if it actually happened) in the context of when they denied it. Not in the context of today. But then again you liberals wanna put all of human history in the context of today and want people to skip straight to the (theoretical)end of the evolutionary process and be perfect instead of being allowed to make mistakes. By your logic the democratic party should be abolished because your party were the original racists. The KKK were and are democrats and most slave owners were democrats. So according to your logic, you should all kill yourselves.


Scandinavians are of the Germanic ethno-linguistic group as the Germans are, but are not Germans.
Yes, it did happen.
My family never denied being German, despite that Germany had been the enemy in two world wars. It pisses me off that the Trumps were ashamed of being of my tribe.
No, the KKK are not today Democrats.
Who says liberals don't understand that people make mistakes? Of course, the Democrats were a political party centered around racism, but that changed when they became the party of civil rights, while the Republicans opened their arms to white racists to counter Democratic gains in the days of Nixon and Reagan.


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13 Jan 2019, 11:27 pm

I feel the same way about the Obamas pretending not to be Swiss.



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13 Jan 2019, 11:31 pm

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I feel the same way about the Obamas pretending not to be Swiss.

Kenya is/was a Swiss colony?


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13 Jan 2019, 11:55 pm

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I feel the same way about the Obamas pretending not to be Swiss.

Kenya is/was a Swiss colony?


No. Switzerland was never a colonial power. I have no idea what Ezra means.


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13 Jan 2019, 11:56 pm

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I feel the same way about the Obamas pretending not to be Swiss.


Huh? :scratch:


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13 Jan 2019, 11:58 pm

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I feel the same way about the Obamas pretending not to be Swiss.

Kenya is/was a Swiss colony?


No. Switzerland was never a colonial power. I have no idea what Ezra means.


Ezra is Swiss and was trying to be funny.



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14 Jan 2019, 12:00 am

EzraS wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
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EzraS wrote:
I feel the same way about the Obamas pretending not to be Swiss.

Kenya is/was a Swiss colony?


No. Switzerland was never a colonial power. I have no idea what Ezra means.


Ezra is Swiss and was trying to be funny.
I was just trying to be funny. I guess nobody got the joke. Is not having a sense of humor an autistic trait? I'm glad I'm an exception to that if so.


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