Elizabeth Warren Running for President in 2020

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19 Feb 2019, 3:43 am

EzraS wrote:
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Your view of things often seems to be like something out of an old spy novel.


Many of those old spy novelists, such as Ian Fleming, had been intelligence operatives and knew what they were talking about.


Ian Fleming came to mind actually. So basically you're viewing matters through the lens of cold war fiction spy novels. Now it seems obvious Putin is Blofeld. Would you say Trump is Goldfinger?


Nah, Goldfinger was a whole lot smarter than Trump.


Idk about that considering how long he's been evading being captured by the caped crusader.


Huh? What does Batman have to do with the James Bond Mythos?


It doesn't. I was thinking of that Mueller as Batman image I've seen. Is there anyone else who fits in with the James Bond mythos or does it stop with Putin as Blofeld?


Okay, I should have known that.


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19 Feb 2019, 12:10 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
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Trump calls her "a dream come true candidate".

Why would any educated, intelligent, and rational person listen to one word from someone who lies more than 15 times a day?


What did he lie about? Just because you don’t like him doesn’t mean he lies more than 15 times a day.


That the wall already being under construction, when in fact no work has been done, at all, is one.
That there are more illegals pouring across the border than ever before.
That drugs are coming across the "porous" border.
That terrorists are coming across the border.
That Putin had nothing to do with interfering with our elections.
That Kim is abiding by our WMD agreements.
That he would replace Obamacare with something stupendous.
I could go on and on.


You might want to check your sources.


So, tell me how you think I'm wrong.


You didn’t come up with 15+ lies.

No, I've got better things to do, along with fighting a bad sinus headache.
Again, tell me how I'm wrong.


Because no one really knows the truth about what happens in Washington D.C. and the more someone thinks they know, the more ignorant they probably are.


I just heard how Putin tells Trump that Kim doesn't really have the missiles our own intelligence agencies have reported. Trump has said he believes Putin.
I know one thing - - Putin is the devil in the flesh, and his is the black glass we can not look into. That Trump trusts an enemy more than his own people reveals how much of an enemy he is to his own country.


You own intelligence agencies lie about everything. They support terrorists and aided them on 9/11. They have poured drugs into your society so they can fund terrorists via black ops. You are clueless to who your enemy is.


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19 Feb 2019, 12:21 pm

I've changed my mind.

In 2020, it's going to be "Anyone But Trump" and "Anyone But Warren". If they're the only two candidates, then I'll vote for myself again.



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12 Jun 2019, 4:09 pm

The left-wing robots of the media are amazing — a candidate manufactures a political talking point and they promote the talking point and the candidate by repeating it over and over like, well, robots.

Warren isn't a candidate with a plan, she's a cipher with a slogan.


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12 Jun 2019, 4:14 pm

Fnord wrote:
I've changed my mind.

In 2020, it's going to be "Anyone But Trump" and "Anyone But Warren". If they're the only two candidates, then I'll vote for myself again.

Hmm maybe I'll vote for Fnord! Can he play the game of thrones? "You win or you die!"
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12 Jun 2019, 4:16 pm

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I've changed my mind. In 2020, it's going to be "Anyone But Trump" and "Anyone But Warren". If they're the only two candidates, then I'll vote for myself again.
Hmm maybe I'll vote for Fnord! Can he play the game of thrones? "You win or you die!"
My campaign slogan for 2020: "There Can Be Only One."


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12 Jun 2019, 4:20 pm

Fnord wrote:
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I've changed my mind. In 2020, it's going to be "Anyone But Trump" and "Anyone But Warren". If they're the only two candidates, then I'll vote for myself again.
Hmm maybe I'll vote for Fnord! Can he play the game of thrones? "You win or you die!"
My campaign slogan for 2020: "There Can Be Only One."

Maybe I can run against you? :twisted:

Highlander reference!

My slogan: "You Win or You Die!"
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12 Jun 2019, 4:24 pm

TheRevengeofTW1ZTY wrote:
Fnord wrote:
TheRevengeofTW1ZTY wrote:
Fnord wrote:
I've changed my mind. In 2020, it's going to be "Anyone But Trump" and "Anyone But Warren". If they're the only two candidates, then I'll vote for myself again.
Hmm maybe I'll vote for Fnord! Can he play the game of thrones? "You win or you die!"
My campaign slogan for 2020: "There Can Be Only One."
Maybe I can run against you? Highlander reference! My slogan: "You Win or You Die!"
Hmm ... I'm gonna need a running-mate ... Whom to choose ... Whom to choose ...


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12 Jun 2019, 4:57 pm

Here's some independent, hard-hitting, investigative journalism from the independent media (all suddenly appearing at the same time):

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16 Jun 2019, 6:13 pm

Trump campaign zeroes in on a new threat: Elizabeth Warren

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President Donald Trump’s reelection machine is setting its sights on a new target, one it had left for dead just a few months ago: Elizabeth Warren.

With the Massachusetts senator rising in polls and driving a populist message that threatens to cut into the president’s blue-collar base, the Trump campaign is training its firepower on Warren with an eye toward blunting her momentum.

Trump aides and their allies at the Republican National Committee, who initially believed their money and manpower were better focused elsewhere, are digging up opposition research, deploying camera-wielding trackers, and preparing to brand Warren as a liberal extremist. The reassessment of Warren, confirmed in conversations with more than a half-dozen Trump advisers, reflects the volatility of the massive Democratic primary and how the reelection campaign is reacting to it.

The Trump team — including the president himself — had been focused almost exclusively on Joe Biden to this point. But Warren’s rise now has them thinking she could pose a serious threat in a general election. Warren’s disciplined style, populist-infused speeches, and perceived ability to win over suburban female voters, Trump advisers concede, has raised concerns.

Campaign pollster John McLaughlin has sounded the alarm internally, stressing that Warren’s attacks on Trump threaten to undercut his support from the working-class voters who propelled him to the presidency.

“Although our own early published polls and internal polls discounted Elizabeth Warren, her recent momentum in May and June in national and early caucus and primary states into a strong second place to a flat Joe Biden is a cause for our campaign’s attention,” McLaughlin wrote in a text message to POLITICO.

Biden will still receive a significant share of the campaign's attention. But Trump aides say they're less certain that he'll be their eventual opponent.

The reelection campaign first began taking note of Warren’s momentum several weeks ago, when polling showed her gaining substantially on Biden and Sanders. They were startled earlier this month when Tucker Carlson, a host on Trump-friendly Fox News, used the opening monologue of his show to heap praise on the liberal senator.

Warren’s populist economic agenda, Carlson said, “sounds like Donald Trump at his best.”

Other pro-Trump Republican groups are paying closer attention to Warren, too. The GOP oppo research shop America Rising has placed Warren in its top tier of Democratic candidates and will prioritize putting trackers on her campaign events. The RNC, meanwhile, recently sent out a news release drawing attention to a radio interview in which Warren was pressed on her past claims of Native American ancestry.

But Trump aides are planning a barrage that extends well beyond the heritage issue, which has been the focus of Trump's mockery and broadsides. They’re preparing to dig into her past as a professor and try to pick apart her laundry list of policy proposals.

“There’s no question that Elizabeth Warren is on the move, has momentum and could well end up as our opponent,” said Tim Murtaugh, a Trump 2020 spokesman. “We have to make sure voters know about her proposals for government takeover of health care, free health care for illegal immigrants, radical environmental restrictions, and increased taxes — all proposals that will devastate this country.”

Warren is enjoying a renaissance after a painful campaign rollout. Trump attacked her mercilessly after she released a DNA test that attempted to put the controversy over her blood lines to rest only to reveal she’s between 1/64th and 1/1,024th Native American.

During an appearance at his Mar-a-Lago resort in March, the president lamented to donors that he knocked Warren out of the race too early and that he should have saved his jabs for later. During a late April rally in Wisconsin, the president said Warren was “finished.”

In the weeks that followed, though, the anti-Wall Street crusader engineered a turnaround with a litany of policy plans, a nonstop campaign schedule and a hard-charging populist message.

In the most recent national poll, from Quinnipiac University, Warren was at 15 percent, only slightly behind Sanders for second place. And in polls released this week of California and Nevada — two key states that vote in late February and early March, respectively — Warren leapfrogged Sanders, running behind only Biden.

The latest view inside the Trump campaign is that Warren has a more coherent message and a more passionate liberal following than Biden, whose support they see as soft. “Her politics are where the Democratic party has moved,” said Trump campaign adviser Raj Shah. “She’s primed to pick up more support as Bernie fades and Biden erodes.”

Not everyone agrees that going after Warren is the right move. Some Trump aides contend that her liberal positions would make her an easier general election opponent and that they should hold off on attacking her. Others, however, argue that guessing a particular candidate's level of electability is impossible and that the Democratic nominee — no matter who it is — needs to be defined well before next year’s convention.


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17 Jun 2019, 12:50 am

Fnord wrote:
TheRevengeofTW1ZTY wrote:
Fnord wrote:
TheRevengeofTW1ZTY wrote:
Fnord wrote:
I've changed my mind. In 2020, it's going to be "Anyone But Trump" and "Anyone But Warren". If they're the only two candidates, then I'll vote for myself again.
Hmm maybe I'll vote for Fnord! Can he play the game of thrones? "You win or you die!"
My campaign slogan for 2020: "There Can Be Only One."
Maybe I can run against you? Highlander reference! My slogan: "You Win or You Die!"
Hmm ... I'm gonna need a running-mate ... Whom to choose ... Whom to choose ...


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