Why do liberals care more about illegal immigrants?

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Funny how the right is against illegal immigrants when they're the next best thing for them compared to slavery.

Because even though white male supremacists and white male murderers are a big problem in America (compared to other criminals) they're still a statistically insignificant part of someone's decision to try so hard to get into America in order to escape conflict, poverty, and seek work and better fortunes for themselves.

Funny how the left wants more of what it calls the next thing to slavery.



So they're coming here in droves because of conflict ie violence and crime, but none of all that is coming with them. And the next thing to slavery equals seeking a fortune.

The left does? That's just what I just called it. Never heard or read it as a Liberal phrase.

If you and your family's lives were being threatened, does that make you a threat to others' lives?

Seeking a fortune? I said better fortunes aka good fortune aka prosperity - which for many would simply be living paycheque to paycheque at a low paying meager job simply for the comforts of stable surroundings free from violence or political unrest.

What do immigrants have to do with slavery?

It's estimated that illegal aliens kill between 6-12 Americans everyday.

(Their statistics include the thousands of 9/11 hijacker killings as the hijackers were illegal aliens)
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/06/25/trump-s ... dd-up.html

The point is we want to STOP them.

Oh okay, funny how you want more of what you call the next thing to slavery.



How does the wheat get sifted from the chaff?



And no such place exists in all of Central or South America?

ID cards are not required in the US...but they sure help you when you have to go through the bureaucracy.

Drivers licenses or state IDs issued by departments of motor vehicles are almost required in a defacto sense.

A birth certificate is a virtual must.

A Social Security card is required to get a job, sucks as proof of identity elsewhere.

The Human Caravan You Haven’t Heard About

Slavery is free labour - that's best for business. Illegal immigrants are very inexpensive labour - that's second best for business. That was my point.

I didn't say I want it. I acknowledge that American businesses benefit from it.

Same way it does here in Canada, first by checking ID & backgrounds if possible, second by interviews with immigration and psychologists who screen people as best they can when they come from war torn countries with no records of who they are. It's not a perfect system, but it's not a total crapshoot, either. If their behaviour indicates something is amiss, they're interviewed further to determine if they are an illegitimate refugee. Same kind of thing when someone is caught being nervous and possibly smuggling something - trained LEO's do the digging until they figure out what's going on.

Does that mean mistakes Never happen and bad people Never get through? No. Nothing is completely foolproof. But a whole lot of good meaning people and their families get a chance to start over in a place where they can survive at first, and then with hard work, thrive. Here in Canada, refugee immigrants pay more taxes than wealthy investor immigrants (who cheat taxes, basically.) & that's a fact. Probably the same South of the border.

No idea; I've never been to Central or South America. You'd have to ask each migrant why they chose to approach the USA. Maybe they have family here already. Maybe America symbolizes stability, opportunity, peace and freedom to go about their lives to them & is the place they feel safe? Or any other number of reasons. Ask them.

This is a dangerous racist lie. It's not that illegal immigrants never do crime, but they do crime at a rate that is the same or less than American citizens. Any population reduction by that logic would reduce crime. Why single out illegal immigrants? Is a crime committed by a brown-skinned person worse than a crime committed by a white person?

It's not funny at all. It's perfectly logical. If they didn't fear getting deported they couldn't use them as virtual slaves. If they didn't expend some effort getting into the country, they wouldn't value their place their over decent working conditions.

This wall is security theater, just like the security theater you see in airports. This theater is not only supposed to Americans' minds at ease with a very visible illusion of security, but also supposed to make those who get around the wall feel like they've accomplished something, so they'll value their position as virtual slaves. Also it can be used as a threat against those who are already here illegally (do as I say because if you get deported, you won't be able to get over the newly built wall).

Of course they're an issue. Any country that doesn't make a proper effort to control its borders deserves what it gets. It's a question of wasting billions of dollars on something that won't be effective. Funny that those who harp on about the defectite would want to waste such a large sum of money.

As I said to Goldfish it's security theatre. It's main purpose is to put Americans' minds at ease. If it stops any illegal immigrants that's just a bonus.

Actually, retro, it was never supposed to be real in the first place. I read an article that said the wall was a fabrication by some campaign advisers who trying to keep trump focused on anti-immigration issues. The crowd responded well to it, so trump kept saying it. Now he can claim it's to satisfy his election promise to his base, but IMO all this wall shutdown nonsense is mainly intended to be a distraction to slow down criminal investigations into him and his family.

Crossing the border illegally is only a misdemeanor. Being present illegally in the US is not a crime at all, and many so-called illegal immigrants didn't cross illegally, but rather overstayed their visas.