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karathraceandherspecialdestiny
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26 Jan 2019, 6:16 am

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I insist you watch the propaganda that I watch! Actually watch the content so you get brainwashed like me!


I'm not going to watch RT bro. Let it go. I did my research, I have other sources for news.



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26 Jan 2019, 8:54 am

I do like Thom Hartmann. For some reason he chose to work for RT, and I'm not sure I forgive him.

Legitimate hoax:
https://thehill.com/homenews/media/4270 ... er-article

Doesn't mean every story about Trump's ties to Russian hacking are false.



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26 Jan 2019, 1:02 pm

karathraceandherspecialdestiny wrote:
VegetableMan wrote:
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I insist you watch the propaganda that I watch! Actually watch the content so you get brainwashed like me!


I'm not going to watch RT bro. Let it go. I did my research, I have other sources for news.




Oh! Can I play this game too? Here's my translation of your words:


"I'm not going to watch RT, bro, and decide for myself whether the content has any merit or not. The corporate media has convinced me that it's evil propaganda. I listen to the MSM. I'm a good little American, who bows to the will of my corporate masters!"


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26 Jan 2019, 1:16 pm

AspE wrote:
I do like Thom Hartmann. For some reason he chose to work for RT, and I'm not sure I forgive him.

Legitimate hoax:
https://thehill.com/homenews/media/4270 ... er-article

Doesn't mean every story about Trump's ties to Russian hacking are false.



Why won't you forgive him? If you like his stories, then what does it matter what network he works for? What's really sad that journalists and commentators who are really putting their asses on the line to tell the truth about our corrupt system have to go outside the MSM to have a platform; then they get demonized and marginalized.


Typing this will get be branded as a conspiracy theorist, simply because that's the way they've been conditioned. But there's no real conspiracy involved, here -- not a formal one, anyway. It's just the way things work in an oligarchy. Connect the dots, follow the money, see where interests converge, and you get the whole picture.


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26 Jan 2019, 1:35 pm

Serving an evil master. I'm not against criticism, but bias can exist not just in individual stories, but in what stories you choose to cover.



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26 Jan 2019, 1:55 pm

Exactly! The many stories are often ignored on MSM, or are spun in a way to deflect attention away from the true motives and the players involved.


As long as humans are driven by power and greed, this is the world we're going to face. Those with the power and money will continue to exert force to get more for themselves, and less for everyone else. They will not be concerned with the long-term consequences, and they will utilize every resource at their disposal to manipulate the people. An informed populace is not in their best interests -- and they control the information we receive.


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26 Jan 2019, 1:56 pm

Every bit of media has bias, whether it's paid or not. Doesn't mean that they're posting propaganda.

And I'd like to point at the difference between having biases and flat out lying, like has become acceptable practice on Sinclair media outlets


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26 Jan 2019, 1:59 pm

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Exactly! The many stories are often ignored on MSM, or are spun in a way to deflect attention away from the true motives and the players involved.


As long as humans are driven by power and greed, this is the world we're going to face. Those with the power and money will continue to exert force to get more for themselves, and less for everyone else. They will not be concerned with the long-term consequences, and they will utilize every resource at their disposal to manipulate the people. An informed populace is not in their best interests -- and they control the information we receive.

I'd rather deal with the bias from MSNBC than that of RT. On the whole, I think competition is more at play between news outlets than some sinister coordination.



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26 Jan 2019, 2:09 pm

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Exactly! The many stories are often ignored on MSM, or are spun in a way to deflect attention away from the true motives and the players involved.


As long as humans are driven by power and greed, this is the world we're going to face. Those with the power and money will continue to exert force to get more for themselves, and less for everyone else. They will not be concerned with the long-term consequences, and they will utilize every resource at their disposal to manipulate the people. An informed populace is not in their best interests -- and they control the information we receive.

I'd rather deal with the bias from MSNBC than that of RT. On the whole, I think competition is more at play between news outlets than some sinister coordination.



The difference between MSNBC and RT is the latter is exposing the game they are playing. I see MSNBC and FOX as flips sides of the coin. They each serve a different party, but they are both dedicated to perpetuating the political divide. The differences between the two major parties is largely manufactured, at this point. Both are controlled by pretty much the same corporate interests.


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26 Jan 2019, 3:04 pm

Good. I like partisanship. And I think I can weed out corporate influence.



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26 Jan 2019, 3:21 pm

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Good. I like partisanship. And I think I can weed out corporate influence.


At least your honest, I'll give you that. I despise partisanship with every fiber of my being. It's what maintains a broken, corrupt system. Buona fortuna!


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26 Jan 2019, 5:28 pm

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Good. I like partisanship. And I think I can weed out corporate influence.
At least your honest, I'll give you that. I despise partisanship with every fiber of my being. It's what maintains a broken, corrupt system. Buona fortuna!

I'm not ready to make nice. I'm ready to fight and not give an inch. And we will win, we have the numbers. The only bi-partisanship I can accept is between the Democratic Socialists and the Democrats.



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26 Jan 2019, 5:31 pm

IMO the Russia thing is whether it's about people making money Or destroying the USA in favour of Russia.

But I don't think its an either or thing. I think it's both. And trump might not even be aware of it. He's probably just trying to make as much money for himself and his friends as he can, and for his Russian financiers who own him, while Putin's ultimate aim isn't about money at all - its about power and control - and he's using trump's easily exploited greed to get him to do the things he needs done to destabilize the USA so he can watch it fall & then pick up the pieces as he asserts more power around the world.

That's my thoughts of the moment on it.


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26 Jan 2019, 6:01 pm

AspE wrote:
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Good. I like partisanship. And I think I can weed out corporate influence.
At least your honest, I'll give you that. I despise partisanship with every fiber of my being. It's what maintains a broken, corrupt system. Buona fortuna!

I'm not ready to make nice. I'm ready to fight and not give an inch. And we will win, we have the numbers. The only bi-partisanship I can accept is between the Democratic Socialists and the Democrats.




The corporate Dems will shut down any true progressives in the party -- there will be no bi-partisanship between them. If you've been following the Tulsa Gabbard story, you'd realize this. She's been smeared for her stance against the Venezuela coop and her anti-war stance. Sorry, but you are part of the problem, not the solution if you are actively keeping the partisan divide alive.


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26 Jan 2019, 8:11 pm

karathraceandherspecialdestiny wrote:
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Gee, these 'fact checking' sites sponsored by billionaires sure are an impartial and credible way of finding the truth.

Your personal attacks and complete blank of all the information in the post speaks volumes. The information and the way the Russiagate hoaxes are debunked cannot be countered, that's why.

The people you attack have been proven right about Syria and have been to Syria on numerous occasions and don't depend on Al Qaeda Wearing white helmets for news. If we'd listened to the corporate media and Co, Syria would be like Libya where there's child slave markets in the streets.


Calling Alex Jones batshit is a personal attack on you? Or are you saying I'm personally attacking Alex Jones? Do you not know how completely insane he is well known to be, including by his own wife and children? His own family is afraid of him! Alex Jones' Former Wife: 'He's A Really Unhappy, Disturbed Person'

This is the person I'm supposed to take seriously, the one who's attorneys tried to argue in court that he doesn't even believe the things he says on his own media platforms?

If Alex Jones has been proven right about anything, I can guarantee you it was entirely by accident. As they say, even a broken clock is right twice a day. :lol:


:roll: Where did I mention Alex Jones? Only you did. He's a conman who spreads disinformation for money and to save his own skin.


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