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26 Jan 2019, 8:13 pm

Anyone pushing the Russiagate hoax, please see my original post to see your thoughts debunked.


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26 Jan 2019, 9:01 pm

JohnPowell wrote:
Anyone pushing the Russiagate hoax, please see my original post to see your thoughts debunked.


Yeah, except for the part where nothing is debunked. Just some guy talking on YouTube saying he doesn’t believe there’s anything nefarious about this administration’s dealings with Russia, and he rest of the world giving a little side-eye thinking “Uh, wtf? These guys are WAY too cozy with Russia for their not to be something amiss.”


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26 Jan 2019, 9:02 pm

JohnPowell wrote:
Anyone pushing the Russiagate hoax, please see my original post to see your thoughts debunked.

The Russia Investigation is not itself a hoax.



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26 Jan 2019, 11:42 pm

AspE wrote:
JohnPowell wrote:
Anyone pushing the Russiagate hoax, please see my original post to see your thoughts debunked.

The Russia Investigation is not itself a hoax.


I don’t know – it’s hard for me to see any Trump ties to Russia… except for:
the Flynn thing
and the Manafort thing
and the Tillerson thing
and the Sessions thing
and the Kushner thing
and the Carter Page thing
and the Roger Stone thing
and the Felix Sater thing
and the Boris Ephsteyn thing
and the Rosneft thing
and the Gazprom thing
and the Sergey Gorkov banker thing
and the Azerbaijan thing
and the “I love Putin” thing
and the $50 million penthouse for Putin thing
and the Trump Tower Moscow thing
and the Donald Trump, Jr. thing
and the Sergey Kislyak thing
and the Russian Affiliated Interests thing
and the Russian Business Interests thing
and the Emoluments Clause thing
and the Alex Schnaider thing
and the hack of the DNC thing
and the Guccifer 2.0 thing
and the Mike Pence: “I don’t know anything” thing
and the Russians mysteriously dying thing
and Trump’s public request to Russia to hack Hillary’s email thing
and the Trump house sale for $100 million at the bottom of the housing bust to the Russian fertilizer king thing
and the Russian fertilizer king’s plane showing up in Concord, NC during Trump rally campaign thing
and the Nunes sudden flight to the White House in the night thing
and Nunes personal investments in the Russian winery thing
and the Wilbur Ross with his Cyprus bank thing
and Trump not releasing his tax returns thing
and the Republican Party’s rejection of an amendment to require Trump to show his taxes thing
and the election hacking thing
and the GOP platform change to the Ukraine thing
and the Steele Dossier thing
and the Leninist Bannon thing
and the Sally Yates can’t testify thing
and the Sally Yates firing thing*
and the intelligence community’s investigative reports thing
and Trump’s reassurance that the Russian connection is all “fake news” thing
and Spicer’s Russian Dressing “nothing’s wrong” thing
and Trump warning the Russians and Syrians before the Bombing thing*
and the Trump refusing to provide Flynn's foreign ties documents to Congress thing*
and Flynn's illegal Turkish lobbying was paid for the Russians thing*
and Flynn's illegal lobbying for Russia thing*
and the Trump asking Comey for a "loyalty oath" thing*
and Trump lying to the world about Comey saying he's not being investigated thing*
and the Trump firing Comey thing*
and the Trump or stooges lying to the world about why he fired Comey with 3 different lies thing*
and the Trump hosting Russian foreign minister and ambassador one day after to demonstrate his authoritarian street cred* thing
and the finding out that Trump actually tried to fire Robert Mueller in June 2017 thing
and the claim by trump that the Russia investigation is over some unrefunded golf club fees to Robert Mueller thing
and the Maria Butina / KGB / NRA thing
and the slavish affection Trump showed to Putin Helsinki thing
and the Trump saying he believed Putin over ALL the US intelligence agencies thing

So there’s probably nothing, all of this must be normal, just a bunch of separate dots with no connection whatsoever. :lol:



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26 Jan 2019, 11:48 pm

karathraceandherspecialdestiny wrote:
AspE wrote:
JohnPowell wrote:
Anyone pushing the Russiagate hoax, please see my original post to see your thoughts debunked.

The Russia Investigation is not itself a hoax.


I don’t know – it’s hard for me to see any Trump ties to Russia… except for:
the Flynn thing
and the Manafort thing
and the Tillerson thing
and the Sessions thing
and the Kushner thing
and the Carter Page thing
and the Roger Stone thing
and the Felix Sater thing
and the Boris Ephsteyn thing
and the Rosneft thing
and the Gazprom thing
and the Sergey Gorkov banker thing
and the Azerbaijan thing
and the “I love Putin” thing
and the $50 million penthouse for Putin thing
and the Trump Tower Moscow thing
and the Donald Trump, Jr. thing
and the Sergey Kislyak thing
and the Russian Affiliated Interests thing
and the Russian Business Interests thing
and the Emoluments Clause thing
and the Alex Schnaider thing
and the hack of the DNC thing
and the Guccifer 2.0 thing
and the Mike Pence: “I don’t know anything” thing
and the Russians mysteriously dying thing
and Trump’s public request to Russia to hack Hillary’s email thing
and the Trump house sale for $100 million at the bottom of the housing bust to the Russian fertilizer king thing
and the Russian fertilizer king’s plane showing up in Concord, NC during Trump rally campaign thing
and the Nunes sudden flight to the White House in the night thing
and Nunes personal investments in the Russian winery thing
and the Wilbur Ross with his Cyprus bank thing
and Trump not releasing his tax returns thing
and the Republican Party’s rejection of an amendment to require Trump to show his taxes thing
and the election hacking thing
and the GOP platform change to the Ukraine thing
and the Steele Dossier thing
and the Leninist Bannon thing
and the Sally Yates can’t testify thing
and the Sally Yates firing thing*
and the intelligence community’s investigative reports thing
and Trump’s reassurance that the Russian connection is all “fake news” thing
and Spicer’s Russian Dressing “nothing’s wrong” thing
and Trump warning the Russians and Syrians before the Bombing thing*
and the Trump refusing to provide Flynn's foreign ties documents to Congress thing*
and Flynn's illegal Turkish lobbying was paid for the Russians thing*
and Flynn's illegal lobbying for Russia thing*
and the Trump asking Comey for a "loyalty oath" thing*
and Trump lying to the world about Comey saying he's not being investigated thing*
and the Trump firing Comey thing*
and the Trump or stooges lying to the world about why he fired Comey with 3 different lies thing*
and the Trump hosting Russian foreign minister and ambassador one day after to demonstrate his authoritarian street cred* thing
and the finding out that Trump actually tried to fire Robert Mueller in June 2017 thing
and the claim by trump that the Russia investigation is over some unrefunded golf club fees to Robert Mueller thing
and the Maria Butina / KGB / NRA thing
and the slavish affection Trump showed to Putin Helsinki thing
and the Trump saying he believed Putin over ALL the US intelligence agencies thing

So there’s probably nothing, all of this must be normal, just a bunch of separate dots with no connection whatsoever. :lol:


:heart:

And trump’s Five secret meetings with Putin thing
And trump telling his interpreter to give up any notes about the meetings thing
And all the condos trump has sold to Russian mafia and oligarchs thing
And the Russian source of loan funds that floated trump when no one else would loan him money thing


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26 Jan 2019, 11:54 pm

I'm surprised all of that hasn't produced any indictments pertaining directly to russiagate.



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26 Jan 2019, 11:58 pm

EzraS wrote:
I'm surprised all of that hasn't produced any indictments pertaining directly to russiagate.


Um, it has. Even a bunch of Russian hackers were charged.

Mueller isn’t finished yet. Wait and see. I bet we see a lot bigger fish gettin fried when it comes to Americans getting nailed for Russiagate.


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27 Jan 2019, 12:00 am

goldfish21 wrote:
karathraceandherspecialdestiny wrote:
AspE wrote:
JohnPowell wrote:
Anyone pushing the Russiagate hoax, please see my original post to see your thoughts debunked.

The Russia Investigation is not itself a hoax.


I don’t know – it’s hard for me to see any Trump ties to Russia… except for:
the Flynn thing
and the Manafort thing
and the Tillerson thing
and the Sessions thing
and the Kushner thing
and the Carter Page thing
and the Roger Stone thing
and the Felix Sater thing
and the Boris Ephsteyn thing
and the Rosneft thing
and the Gazprom thing
and the Sergey Gorkov banker thing
and the Azerbaijan thing
and the “I love Putin” thing
and the $50 million penthouse for Putin thing
and the Trump Tower Moscow thing
and the Donald Trump, Jr. thing
and the Sergey Kislyak thing
and the Russian Affiliated Interests thing
and the Russian Business Interests thing
and the Emoluments Clause thing
and the Alex Schnaider thing
and the hack of the DNC thing
and the Guccifer 2.0 thing
and the Mike Pence: “I don’t know anything” thing
and the Russians mysteriously dying thing
and Trump’s public request to Russia to hack Hillary’s email thing
and the Trump house sale for $100 million at the bottom of the housing bust to the Russian fertilizer king thing
and the Russian fertilizer king’s plane showing up in Concord, NC during Trump rally campaign thing
and the Nunes sudden flight to the White House in the night thing
and Nunes personal investments in the Russian winery thing
and the Wilbur Ross with his Cyprus bank thing
and Trump not releasing his tax returns thing
and the Republican Party’s rejection of an amendment to require Trump to show his taxes thing
and the election hacking thing
and the GOP platform change to the Ukraine thing
and the Steele Dossier thing
and the Leninist Bannon thing
and the Sally Yates can’t testify thing
and the Sally Yates firing thing*
and the intelligence community’s investigative reports thing
and Trump’s reassurance that the Russian connection is all “fake news” thing
and Spicer’s Russian Dressing “nothing’s wrong” thing
and Trump warning the Russians and Syrians before the Bombing thing*
and the Trump refusing to provide Flynn's foreign ties documents to Congress thing*
and Flynn's illegal Turkish lobbying was paid for the Russians thing*
and Flynn's illegal lobbying for Russia thing*
and the Trump asking Comey for a "loyalty oath" thing*
and Trump lying to the world about Comey saying he's not being investigated thing*
and the Trump firing Comey thing*
and the Trump or stooges lying to the world about why he fired Comey with 3 different lies thing*
and the Trump hosting Russian foreign minister and ambassador one day after to demonstrate his authoritarian street cred* thing
and the finding out that Trump actually tried to fire Robert Mueller in June 2017 thing
and the claim by trump that the Russia investigation is over some unrefunded golf club fees to Robert Mueller thing
and the Maria Butina / KGB / NRA thing
and the slavish affection Trump showed to Putin Helsinki thing
and the Trump saying he believed Putin over ALL the US intelligence agencies thing

So there’s probably nothing, all of this must be normal, just a bunch of separate dots with no connection whatsoever. :lol:


:heart:

And trump’s Five secret meetings with Putin thing
And trump telling his interpreter to give up any notes about the meetings thing
And all the condos trump has sold to Russian mafia and oligarchs thing
And the Russian source of loan funds that floated trump when no one else would loan him money thing


:lol: I'll have to keep updating as more information is released about the investigation. The list keeps getting longer and longer...



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27 Jan 2019, 6:55 am

goldfish21 wrote:
EzraS wrote:
I'm surprised all of that hasn't produced any indictments pertaining directly to russiagate.


Um, it has. Even a bunch of Russian hackers were charged.


You mean just a bunch of Russian hackers, rather than anyone in the Trump campaign being indicted as co conspirators.

goldfish21 wrote:
Mueller isn’t finished yet. Wait and see. I bet we see a lot bigger fish gettin fried when it comes to Americans getting nailed for Russiagate.


So I've heard.



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27 Jan 2019, 8:16 am

goldfish21 wrote:
JohnPowell wrote:
Anyone pushing the Russiagate hoax, please see my original post to see your thoughts debunked.


Yeah, except for the part where nothing is debunked. Just some guy talking on YouTube saying he doesn’t believe there’s anything nefarious about this administration’s dealings with Russia, and he rest of the world giving a little side-eye thinking “Uh, wtf? These guys are WAY too cozy with Russia for their not to be something amiss.”


The fantasy story CNN and Co were pushing around was a complete hoax.


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27 Jan 2019, 8:23 am

None of that copy and pasted list proves a thing about 'collusion' between Trump and Russia. The DNC emails were leaked by Seth Rich who was then murdered. He was a Bernie fan and wanted to expose how the Clintons colluded with the DNC to cheat Sanders out of the nomination. The Steele Dossier is a hoax. It was formed by the Clintons colluding with the FBI and by a foreign agent ironically enough. The indictments mean nothing and were just done because it is known that those Russians will not be extradited. Flynn lobbied on behalf of ISRAEL, not Russia. 2.5 years and a fortune spent for nothing. Turns out the Russians spent $4700 on Google ads, and most of them weren't even about the election :lol:


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27 Jan 2019, 8:36 am

If the DNC had been hacked the FBI would have seized the computers straight away, but Comey lied and said they didn't have access.


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27 Jan 2019, 8:44 am

JohnPowell wrote:
If the DNC had been hacked the FBI would have seized the computers straight away, but Comey lied and said they didn't have access.

The DNC computers were examined by experts, a private firm trusted by the FBI called Crowdstrike.



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27 Jan 2019, 8:46 am

Blaming Russia was the diversion tactic to get away from the content in Hillary's emails. It's like an armed robber killing the guy on the till and everyone focusing on and getting angry at the CCTV camera that caught the killer.


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27 Jan 2019, 8:47 am

JohnPowell wrote:
None of that copy and pasted list proves a thing about 'collusion' between Trump and Russia.

...'Cause that's Mueller's job. There is now a connection between the hacked data and a senior Trump campaign official, senior to Bannon, and that could only be Trump.