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16 Feb 2019, 3:40 pm
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Not my intention to divert or derail, so I apologize for that. But I think the comparison/paralell is a valid one. And the original suggestion was that the only reason to prefer immigrants from Norway over immigrants from Mexico or the Middle East would be racism, which is absurd.
Not familiar with all those points, but I do seem to remember the "muslim ban" having a list of specific countries and not being a blanket ban. Not sure if effective, but hardly a ban on muslims per se. As for separating children from parents, that seems like a valid part of a vetting process for people immigrating without papers, given how child traffickers often pose as parents to the children they traffick.
Not familiar with all those points, but I do seem to remember the "muslim ban" having a list of specific countries and not being a blanket ban. Not sure if effective, but hardly a ban on muslims per se. As for separating children from parents, that seems like a valid part of a vetting process for people immigrating without papers, given how child traffickers often pose as parents to the children they traffick.
Except that trump has a decades long public history of racism, so it's almost certainly the root of his wanting immigrants from places like Norway vs. "s**thole countries."
Also, trump was quoted as specifically stating that he wants a Muslim ban, but wanted to know how he could do it legally. Hence the multiple attempts at refining the ban until it passed in court. Selecting a bunch of "terrorist countries," was a nice cover to pretend it wasn't about restricting movement of people of a particular faith - especially since he didn't include Saudi Arabia, where Muslim terrorists have actually come from.
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16 Feb 2019, 3:43 pm
goldfish21 wrote:
JohnPowell wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
JohnPowell wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
JohnPowell wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
Are we going to pretend that white privilege & white trash no longer exist in America? 
Both exist.
Both exist.What an absurd post. So the "white trash" as you put it must have privilege too as they are white? If white people were privileged you'd get banned for using the term like you would for calling any other ethnic group "trash".
What an absurd post. The existence of one does not negate the existence of the other. They sometimes coexist, too, with white trash operating with an air of racial superiority over non whites.
They aren't superior. They just hate non white people. And a lot of non whites hate whites. No such thing as white privilege.
Even without thinking or believing that whites are superior, white privilege exists.
While I am not "pure white," I present as a tall white male.. and even in our EXTREMELY multicultural/ethnic community, I acknowledge that I do in fact benefit from white privilege in many, many little ways. I can get away with doing things right in front of cops and not have them hardly bat an eye, meanwhile my half native half white (but Very native presenting) brother-in-law can hardly go about his day w/o being questioned by a cop for no other reason than being a long black haired indigenous presenting male.
White privilege exists whether you want to acknowledge it or not.
If you want to believe in a fantasy that is up to you. If you want to prove 'white privilege' exists then go for it, I'll enjoy the laugh.
Not being discriminated against isn't privilege.
Being given a pass on things, or the benefit of the doubt, due to outward racial presentation is in fact a privilege. So is not being racially discriminated against.
I have many non-white friends who's experience of life, even here where things are VERY VERY good for non-white people, proves the existence of white privilege. Same for my privileged existence.
Maybe You don't live in an area where this is a very real phenomenon, but that doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
Not being discriminated against is not f**king privilege!! !! Other ethnic groups don't get discriminated against but go and start a thread about that and you'll get banned. You can bash on white people, just feel lucky you have the privilege to bash on white people.
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16 Feb 2019, 4:06 pm
JohnPowell wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
JohnPowell wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
JohnPowell wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
JohnPowell wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
Are we going to pretend that white privilege & white trash no longer exist in America? Both exist.
Both exist.What an absurd post. So the "white trash" as you put it must have privilege too as they are white? If white people were privileged you'd get banned for using the term like you would for calling any other ethnic group "trash".
What an absurd post. The existence of one does not negate the existence of the other. They sometimes coexist, too, with white trash operating with an air of racial superiority over non whites.
They aren't superior. They just hate non white people. And a lot of non whites hate whites. No such thing as white privilege.
Even without thinking or believing that whites are superior, white privilege exists.
While I am not "pure white," I present as a tall white male.. and even in our EXTREMELY multicultural/ethnic community, I acknowledge that I do in fact benefit from white privilege in many, many little ways. I can get away with doing things right in front of cops and not have them hardly bat an eye, meanwhile my half native half white (but Very native presenting) brother-in-law can hardly go about his day w/o being questioned by a cop for no other reason than being a long black haired indigenous presenting male.
White privilege exists whether you want to acknowledge it or not.
If you want to believe in a fantasy that is up to you. If you want to prove 'white privilege' exists then go for it, I'll enjoy the laugh.
Not being discriminated against isn't privilege.
Being given a pass on things, or the benefit of the doubt, due to outward racial presentation is in fact a privilege. So is not being racially discriminated against.
I have many non-white friends who's experience of life, even here where things are VERY VERY good for non-white people, proves the existence of white privilege. Same for my privileged existence.
Maybe You don't live in an area where this is a very real phenomenon, but that doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
Not being discriminated against is not f**king privilege!! ! ! Other ethnic groups don't get discriminated against but go and start a thread about that and you'll get banned. You can bash on white people, just feel lucky you have the privilege to bash on white people.
Um, yes, it is.. especially as it pertains to the application of the laws of the land against citizens. It's pretty much the very definition of privilege. Combine that with education & employment opportunities and it is, without a doubt, an easier life in North America to be born white with an English first and last name. That is what privilege is.
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16 Feb 2019, 4:09 pm
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...Don't want the third world... ...being called "waaaccist"
What's wrong with those "kinds" of people? What's wrong with Haitians? Do we have a problem with Haitian terrorism?
What's wrong with Haitians has been imposed upon them by Americans & French. That's why they're amongst the world's poorest people, not because they chose it for themselves.
I haven't looked it up, but I heard from a guy at work yesterday that there's a growing problem with Haitians robbing/kidnapping tourists out of desperation for money to survive. Could be true, but that's most certainly not "Haitian terrorism," in the international sense.
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16 Feb 2019, 4:27 pm
goldfish21 wrote:
JohnPowell wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
JohnPowell wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
JohnPowell wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
JohnPowell wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
Are we going to pretend that white privilege & white trash no longer exist in America? Both exist.
Both exist.What an absurd post. So the "white trash" as you put it must have privilege too as they are white? If white people were privileged you'd get banned for using the term like you would for calling any other ethnic group "trash".
What an absurd post. The existence of one does not negate the existence of the other. They sometimes coexist, too, with white trash operating with an air of racial superiority over non whites.
They aren't superior. They just hate non white people. And a lot of non whites hate whites. No such thing as white privilege.
Even without thinking or believing that whites are superior, white privilege exists.
While I am not "pure white," I present as a tall white male.. and even in our EXTREMELY multicultural/ethnic community, I acknowledge that I do in fact benefit from white privilege in many, many little ways. I can get away with doing things right in front of cops and not have them hardly bat an eye, meanwhile my half native half white (but Very native presenting) brother-in-law can hardly go about his day w/o being questioned by a cop for no other reason than being a long black haired indigenous presenting male.
White privilege exists whether you want to acknowledge it or not.
If you want to believe in a fantasy that is up to you. If you want to prove 'white privilege' exists then go for it, I'll enjoy the laugh.
Not being discriminated against isn't privilege.
Being given a pass on things, or the benefit of the doubt, due to outward racial presentation is in fact a privilege. So is not being racially discriminated against.
I have many non-white friends who's experience of life, even here where things are VERY VERY good for non-white people, proves the existence of white privilege. Same for my privileged existence.
Maybe You don't live in an area where this is a very real phenomenon, but that doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
Not being discriminated against is not f**king privilege!! ! ! Other ethnic groups don't get discriminated against but go and start a thread about that and you'll get banned. You can bash on white people, just feel lucky you have the privilege to bash on white people.
Um, yes, it is.. especially as it pertains to the application of the laws of the land against citizens. It's pretty much the very definition of privilege. Combine that with education & employment opportunities and it is, without a doubt, an easier life in North America to be born white with an English first and last name. That is what privilege is.
You still don't understand. You say "white trash" are privileged. YOU are privileged compared to those white working class people you spit on. You have been conditioned to hare white people. Chinese people are rejected from education as they are considered privileged. Whites aren't even the most privileged ethnic group in the US. Please feel free to start a thread about the most privileged ethnic group in the US and see how quick your membership ends. You enjoy the privilege to spew hatred against white people and call them trash. No wonder Trump won.
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