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karathraceandherspecialdestiny
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16 Mar 2019, 1:13 am

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This murderer acted on his own.


This is patently false. 3 other people were arrested for aiding him, and he was radicalized online. He was not alone in this, he shared his ideas with people online who encouraged him to do what he did, along with the people who drove him around to his two targets.



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16 Mar 2019, 1:16 am

Where are the people claiming "he acted alone" when it's a Muslim terrorist who was radicalized online, instead of telling the Muslim community they better speak out against the terrorism because he's "one of their own"? Why aren't you telling the White supremacy guys to "come get their boy"?

Oh wait, I know why...



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16 Mar 2019, 1:27 am

Insider: Video of arrest just after New Zealand mosque shootings appears to show how a suspect was caught by police

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"Police also arrested three other people in connection with the massacre, including two men and one woman. Two of those people were armed at the scene of the shooting, but one of them was likely "not related" to the attack, authorities said."


Yeah, he totally acted alone, no one else holds any responsibility except the one shooter by himself. :roll:

Easily disprovable lies we're resorting to now. That's just sad.



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16 Mar 2019, 1:36 am

Either acted alone or the person in charge held responsible for mass murder. Like Timothy McVeigh who had an an accomplice or Charles Manson who had several accomplices for instance.



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16 Mar 2019, 1:48 am

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Didn't the Australian authorities say he wasn't on any watch lists, that's why they didn't see this coming? He was apparently normal enough to function to the extent that authorities weren't concerned about him until he decided to murder a bunch of people yesterday.

No he represents almost an exact mirror image of many muslims who become terrorists, we now know he was radicalised while overseas which is why he wasn't on a watch list



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16 Mar 2019, 1:50 am

EzraS wrote:
Either acted alone or the person in charge held responsible for mass murder. Like Timothy McVeigh who had an an accomplice or Charles Manson who had several accomplices for instance.


"THIS MURDERER acted on his own."

Your words, emphasis mine. This murderer did not act alone, he had armed guys with him.



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16 Mar 2019, 1:52 am

EzraS wrote:
This murderer acted on his own.

I think it's already been pointed out that he was acting with two other males and female accomplice.

It's fairly damning that his family have told the media that he was a completely normal everyday "bloke" who while living overseas (he hasn't returned to Australia for 4 years) became radicalised by a white nationalist organisation. It will be revealed over the next couple of days that his accomplices are most likely members which will now make this the first white nationalist group become a terrorist organisation,



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16 Mar 2019, 2:00 am

cyberdad wrote:
EzraS wrote:
This murderer acted on his own.

I think it's already been pointed out that he was acting with two other males and female accomplice.

It's fairly damning that his family have told the media that he was a completely normal everyday "bloke" who while living overseas (he hasn't returned to Australia for 4 years) became radicalised by a white nationalist organisation. It will be revealed over the next couple of days that his accomplices are most likely members which will now make this the first white nationalist group become a terrorist organisation,


Timothy McVeigh acted on his own. Charles Manson acted on his own. Neither were under the formal direct orders of a formal organization. The same goes for Brenton Tarrant as far as I know.



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16 Mar 2019, 2:02 am

And already white supremacists are celebrating this murdering sack of crap:

Fortune.com: Valve Takes Down More Than 100 Steam Profiles Celebrating Suspected New Zealand Mosque Shooter

Just like ISIS celebrates when someone commits a terrorist act in their name. It's the same kind of radicalization, the same kind of extremism, just nominally for a different cause. But they all act the same, and not alone, and it's all terrorism.



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16 Mar 2019, 2:08 am

One far right elected politician in AUstralia has also used the murder to attack islam
https://www.vox.com/2019/3/15/18267077/ ... immigrants



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16 Mar 2019, 2:10 am

EzraS wrote:
[ The same goes for Brenton Tarrant as far as I know.


Check the news feed Ezra...he was getting assistance from accomplices but as far as the actual shooting is concerned it was him alone.

That in itself is a concern that Timothy McVeigh's accomplices were never caught



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16 Mar 2019, 2:11 am

cyberdad wrote:
One far right elected politician in AUstralia has also used the murder to attack islam
https://www.vox.com/2019/3/15/18267077/ ... immigrants


Wow, what a tone-deaf dickbag.



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16 Mar 2019, 2:21 am

karathraceandherspecialdestiny wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
One far right elected politician in AUstralia has also used the murder to attack islam
https://www.vox.com/2019/3/15/18267077/ ... immigrants


Wow, what a tone-deaf dickbag.

It's not just him, if you check the photo there's a bunch of Australian politicians in the senate who support far right policies, just below Fraser Anning is Pauline Hanson and Cory Bernardi who are all of a similar ilk.



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16 Mar 2019, 2:28 am

cyberdad wrote:
EzraS wrote:
[ The same goes for Brenton Tarrant as far as I know.


Check the news feed Ezra...he was getting assistance from accomplices but as far as the actual shooting is concerned it was him alone.

That in itself is a concern that Timothy McVeigh's accomplices were never caught


Terry Nichols was convicted of being Timothy McVeigh's accomplice.



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16 Mar 2019, 2:41 am

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This truly shocking and sad incident shows the hatred some sick people harbour towards those whose race or religion they don't respect. How cowardly to choose the Muslim holy day when they go to pray and worship in peace.

Thinking of the friends and families of those who lost their lives.


Cowardly is definitely the word.


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16 Mar 2019, 2:50 am

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I have said that white supremacists / neo-nazis are a fringe element, rather than the majority of conservatives, as it seems to be implied at times. That there are not mass swarms of neo-nazis everywhere. This murderer acted on his own. He was not under the direction of some large neo-nazi organization. It is wrong to blame Muslims for terrorists acts committed in the name of Islam, because they are committed by a fringe minority. Yet it seems acceptable to blame conservatives and the President because of a fringe minority or because of someone acting on their own.


Even if Nazis aren't numerous, they still have proven they can cause huge death rates.


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