El Paso mall shooting: At least 15 dead, 1 in custody

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04 Aug 2019, 12:28 am

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Very much a loner’: What we know about Patrick Crusius, the suspect in the El Paso massacre

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Although authorities did not publicly confirm his identity or describe the precise contents of the manifesto, a document posted on the website 8chan about an hour-and-a-half before the rampage spoke about the “invasion” of Latino immigrants and said the writer agreed with the shooter who killed worshipers at a mosque in Christchurch, New Zealand. That document was posted by an anonymous user who posted another document under the file name “P._Crusius.” That file was taken down, and it is not clear what it contained.

A Twitter account that appeared to belong to Crusius was shut down Saturday evening. Tweets on the account had praised President Trump and, in particular, his effort to build a wall along the U.S- Mexico border.

Television coverage showed police swarming a house identified as that of Crusius in Allen, a mostly white suburb of Dallas about 650 miles east of El Paso.

Local media reported that Crusius briefly attended Liberty High School and went on to graduate from Plano Senior High School. In 2017, he started to attend Collin College, a community college in McKinney, Texas, according to a statement released by the college.

Leigh Ann Locascio, a former neighbor, said Crusius was an extreme loner who always sat alone on the bus in junior high and high school. He spoke negatively of other kids who played sports or joined the school band, she said.

She described Crusius as “very much a loner, very stand-offish” and someone who “didn’t interact a whole lot with anyone.”

Her son, Tony Locascio, walked to school regularly with Crusius and his sister. Tony Locascio said Patrick Crusius only walked ahead or behind them, never interacting and always keeping to himself. He liked animals and kept pet snakes. “He wouldn’t talk to people. No one really knew him,” Tony Locascio said.

Another former classmate, Jacob Wilson, said Crusius was “very strong minded” in class and would try to “take charge” but other kids refused to work with him because he “irritable and had a short temper.” He was often “picked on” because of how he spoke, and because he wore what looked like hand-me-down clothes, Wilson said.

Wilson, who is now 20 and works in his family’s scrap metal recycling business, said he was in English class with Crusius during their senior year, and the taunts from other kids during class seemed relentless. “Every time I looked up in class it was someone new speaking negatively to the kid, ‘Patrick that is dumb, stupid,’” Wilson said.


FBI Investigating Possible Manifesto in El Paso Walmart Shooting
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The attack that claimed the lives of at least 20 people is Patrick Crusius‘ response to the “Hispanic invasion of Texas,” as noted in a manifesto purported to have been written by the accused El Paso mass shooter. Authorities said they are still investigating to determine to a 100 percent certainty that the file was written by the suspect, who was taken into police custody after the attack on a Walmart in the Texas city.

The unsigned four-page, 2,300-word document, full of typos and grammatical errors, was uploaded to the website 8chan just before the August 3 shooting. As reported first by Matt Keys, the FBI confirmed it was looking into the document and knew the time it was created and uploaded.

Keys also reported out some first images and videos.

According to NBC News, the FBI was aware of the document before the shooting, but investigators were not able to find the target of the attacker fast enough. The document has led to a possible hate crime investigation. Law enforcement sources told ABC News that Crusius told investigators his goal was to kill as many Mexicans as possible.

“Even if other non-immigrant targets would have a greater impact, I can’t bring myself to kill my fellow Americans.” The manifesto writer said he supported the Christchurch shooting citing the “Great Replacement” anti-immigration theory postured there. The writer says that his hatred of immigrants predate Trump so “don’t blame” the president.

“My ideology has not changed for several years. My opinions on automation, immigration, and the rest predate Trump and his campaign for president. I putting this here because some people will blame the President or certain presidential candidates for the attack. This is not the case. I know that the media will probably call me a white supremacist anyway and blame Trump’s rhetoric. The media is infamous for fake news. Their reaction to this attack will likely just confirm that.”

The screed is called “The Inconvenient Truth.” It’s reported to have been authored and uploaded to the internet by the 21-year-old suspect. In it, Crusius says, “My whole life I have been preparing for a future that currently doesn’t exist.”

The FBI saw the post but not only didn’t have enough time to act, they didn’t know where the attack was set to occur.

The manifesto appeared on 4Chan and 8Chan, was reported to have been posted on Discord and other locations on the internet.

The document reads, “I didn’t spend much time at all preparing for this attack. Maybe a month, probably less. I have do this before I lose my nerve. I figured that an under-prepared attack and a meh manifesto is better than no attack and no manifesto.”

In the four-page document, it’s clear that the writer blames Hispanics in particular for “America rotting from the inside out.” His ideology and socio-political opinions are built upon his issue with immigration.

But he also points to corporate America has bearing much of the blame for the disintegration of the country and takeover of Democrats to make the US a one-party state. He says, “immigration can only be detrimental to the future of America.”

The manifesto writer talks about the arsenal he’ll use in the attack. In a matter-of-fact delivery, he wrote that the gun he’d use, would be the WASR 10. “I realized pretty quickly that this isn’t a great choice since it’s the civilian version of the ak47. It’s not designed to shoot rounds quickly, so it overheats massively after about 100 shots fired in quick succession. I’ll have to use a heat-resistant glove to get around this.”

He then described the bullets he’d use and goes into disturbing and graphic detail about the lethal damage a bullet can do to a body.

But the idea of deporting or murdering all non-white Americans is horrific. Many have been here at least as long as the whites, and have done as much to build our country. The best solution to this for now would be to divide America into a confederacy of territories with at least 1 territory for each race. This physical separation would nearly eliminate race mixing and improve social unity by granting each race self-determination within their respective territory(s).”

He says his “… ideology has not changed for several years. My opinions on automation, immigration, and the rest predate Trump and his campaign for president. I putting this here because some people will blame the President…for the attack. This is not the case. ”


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04 Aug 2019, 2:07 am

Begs the questions how many teens are going to be radicalised in the near future?

All this crap about Antifa yet the real threat from right wing propaganda is blatantly obvious.



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04 Aug 2019, 2:27 am

cyberdad wrote:
Begs the questions how many teens are going to be radicalised in the near future?

All this crap about Antifa yet the real threat from right wing propaganda is blatantly obvious.


While the white nationalists are far more lethal then antifa, curbing free speech has more support in more trendy and youthful circles(ie. the future)

Arguments about who is the bigger threat aside, the problem is this is a vicious circle, they are doing the recruiting work for each other. America is getting eaten away from both sides. This is exponentially harder to stop then a threat coming from one side.


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04 Aug 2019, 3:02 am

I tend to agree with Voltaire about the freedom of speech for the likes of the far right to voice their opinion. Always better to shine a light on the darker corners of our society.

The problem is with psychology of young children/teens who normalise this type of propaganda and begin to believe what Trump and Spencer say about immigrants/non-whites and act on their beliefs.

Brendon Tarrant the NZ mass killer directly attributes Donald Trump as one of his inspirations!!

The perils of free speech are apparent and represent a conundrum....I would rather muzzle Trump till we get rid of him in 2020



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04 Aug 2019, 6:42 am

cyberdad wrote:
I tend to agree with Voltaire about the freedom of speech for the likes of the far right to voice their opinion. Always better to shine a light on the darker corners of our society.

The problem is with psychology of young children/teens who normalise this type of propaganda and begin to believe what Trump and Spencer say about immigrants/non-whites and act on their beliefs.

Brendon Tarrant the NZ mass killer directly attributes Donald Trump as one of his inspirations!!

The perils of free speech are apparent and represent a conundrum....I would rather muzzle Trump till we get rid of him in 2020

That's not true, I read his manifesto. Iirc, he doesn't even like Trump.



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04 Aug 2019, 7:28 am

You know, this starkly illustrates how easy it is to kill with a gun. This guy apparently feared losing his nerve and could only produce a 4 page manifesto littered with errors, but still managed to take himself and his gun down to the mall and kill at least 20 people.

I bet without access to a gun, he wouldn't have been able to kill anyone.



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04 Aug 2019, 7:54 am

Drake wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
I tend to agree with Voltaire about the freedom of speech for the likes of the far right to voice their opinion. Always better to shine a light on the darker corners of our society.

The problem is with psychology of young children/teens who normalise this type of propaganda and begin to believe what Trump and Spencer say about immigrants/non-whites and act on their beliefs.

Brendon Tarrant the NZ mass killer directly attributes Donald Trump as one of his inspirations!!

The perils of free speech are apparent and represent a conundrum....I would rather muzzle Trump till we get rid of him in 2020

That's not true, I read his manifesto. Iirc, he doesn't even like Trump.


No he must be a MAGA, don't you understand how important that is?



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04 Aug 2019, 8:14 am

If Drake’s statement doesn’t support gun control, I wouldn’t know what would support it.



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04 Aug 2019, 8:20 am

Here is the manifesto:

https://i.redd.it/awrzj6yt4ce31.jpg



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04 Aug 2019, 8:32 am

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That guy is nuts.



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04 Aug 2019, 8:47 am

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If Drake’s statement doesn’t support gun control, I wouldn’t know what would support it.

America's unique combination of strong gun culture and seeing it as a fundamental right to be able to own them as opposed to having to earn the right to own them (and the country being absolutely flooded with them) means unfortunately you can't just implement gun control and expect results. And seemingly no amount of carnage will change people's minds. The culture needs to strongly change in regard to those first two points.



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04 Aug 2019, 10:19 am

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He sounds like a Bernie/Warren Socialist, since he wants universal health care, UBI (universal basic income), pro-environment, and to stop immigrants from taking jobs.


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04 Aug 2019, 10:34 am

He said he blames both republicans and democrats. But since he managed to survive maybe he will elaborate more beyond what he called his "meh manifesto".



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04 Aug 2019, 11:27 am

He’s not a “Bernie-Warren socialist.”

He’s a nut, pure and simple. He killed people because of his paranoia. Because of his notion of an “Hispanic invasion.”

He actually has fairly conventional, nativist sorts of views. America-first, racist sorts of views.

Not too far from some idiots I know—though they wouldn’t murder people.

(I don’t mean any of you folks).



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04 Aug 2019, 11:29 am

Once again, a racism-motivated mass shooting in the US by a Trump supporter.
Once again, not a single solitary thing is done about it.
Except the Trump giving his "thoughts and prayers". PUKE!! !
Racist sexist orange turd needs to be flushed.

I hate the US and if the Trump gets re-elected I will kill myself.