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15 Aug 2019, 11:46 am

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... when people are shooting up ICE facilities and trying to burn them down, I don't blame him for being edgy, it would have been so easy for any one of those people to step up to the side window and put a bullet in his head.
This is hyperbole. None of those people was shooting anything or anybody.
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... every one of them is his enemy.
Evidence, please?
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They want to destroy him and the organisation he's working for...
Evidence, please?
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... they want to take food off his family's table...
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15 Aug 2019, 12:03 pm

Fnord wrote:
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... when people are shooting up ICE facilities and trying to burn them down, I don't blame him for being edgy, it would have been so easy for any one of those people to step up to the side window and put a bullet in his head.
This is hyperbole. None of those people was shooting anything or anybody.
Drake wrote:
... every one of them is his enemy.
Evidence, please?
Drake wrote:
They want to destroy him and the organisation he's working for...
Evidence, please?
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... they want to take food off his family's table...
[/quote]Evidence, please?[/quote]
Oh I know they weren't. But he doesn't, he's only just arrived. We have to look at it from his point of view. And if you want to talk about hyperbole, you shouldn't be comparing this to Charlottesville. Have you seen the video?

The video is here on the protestor group's Twitter:

https://mobile.twitter.com/NeverAgainAc ... tosize%3D1

But have a read down that thread for more posts from that group. That'll tell you what they're about.

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We formed 6 weeks ago. Since then we’ve done 36 actions across the country, shutting down dozens of ICE detention centers and field offices, including ICE Headquarters in DC.

We’re just getting started.

Jews, immigrants and allies please join us: (link: http://NeverAgainAction.com) NeverAgainAction.com


Never Again is a reference to the holocaust. They think they're fighting nazis.

All the talk from people like this is about destroying ICE.



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15 Aug 2019, 1:53 pm

WOW

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15 Aug 2019, 2:56 pm

I believe in freedom of speech. I believe in the right to peaceful protest. No one has the right to block another person's entrance into a facility, abortion clinic, etc...


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15 Aug 2019, 3:07 pm

These brainwashed morons are to blame.


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15 Aug 2019, 3:13 pm

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... No one has the right to block another person's entrance into a facility, abortion clinic, etc...
Actually, they do -- under limited circumstances, of course. Otherwise, no labor union could ever be allowed to form a picket line. True, physically restraining someone from entering their place of business could get them arrested, and trespassing charges could be brought against them if they do it on private property, but I've been on picket lines where we locked arms in a line to prevent delivery trucks from getting anywhere near a loading dock, and no one could do anything about it as long as we stayed between the sidewalk and the street.


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15 Aug 2019, 3:15 pm

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These brainwashed morons are to blame.

On which side?


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15 Aug 2019, 3:16 pm

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These brainwashed morons are to blame.
To whom are you referring? The Teamsters? The ICE agents? The protesters? The illegal aliens? Or the those of us who disagree with you in this (and other) threads?


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15 Aug 2019, 3:17 pm

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These brainwashed morons are to blame.

On which side?


The imbeciles chanting and screaming in the road. Of course there's brainwashed idiots on the right but no one is worse than these SJW'S.


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15 Aug 2019, 3:20 pm

JohnPowell wrote:
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JohnPowell wrote:
These brainwashed morons are to blame.

On which side?


The imbeciles chanting and screaming in the road. Of course there's brainwashed idiots on the right but no one is worse than these SJW'S.


Well that's your opinion. But actually both sides are being played like puppets.


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15 Aug 2019, 3:23 pm

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These brainwashed morons are to blame.
On which side?
The imbeciles chanting and screaming in the road. Of course there's brainwashed idiots on the right but no one is worse than these SJW'S.
Well that's your opinion. But actually both sides are being played like puppets.
Don't let his antagonism goad you into another insufferably pointless argument, T.


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15 Aug 2019, 3:24 pm

Fnord wrote:
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JohnPowell wrote:
These brainwashed morons are to blame.
On which side?
The imbeciles chanting and screaming in the road. Of course there's brainwashed idiots on the right but no one is worse than these SJW'S.
Well that's your opinion. But actually both sides are being played like puppets.
Don't let his antagonism goad you into another insufferably pointless argument, T.


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15 Aug 2019, 3:26 pm

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... No one has the right to block another person's entrance into a facility, abortion clinic, etc...
Actually, they do -- under limited circumstances, of course. Otherwise, no labor union could ever be allowed to form a picket line. True, physically restraining someone from entering their place of business could get them arrested, and trespassing charges could be brought against them if they do it on private property, but I've been on picket lines where we locked arms in a line to prevent delivery trucks from getting anywhere near a loading dock, and no one could do anything about it as long as we stayed between the sidewalk and the street.


Well, we could go with the 'right' to do whatever you want, but don't b***h about the consequences of exercising that right. You cannot predict what sort of individuals you may come up against. If protesters pit their will against a nut job, they just might get run over. And then scream about the injustice while recovering in a body cast... John Wayne said it best, "if you're gonna be stupid, you'd better be tough."

If a person is minding their own business and gets run over, they'll have all my sympathy. But the very notion of putting oneself in harms way, to protect others, is accepting the danger. If an individual stands in a road, knowing roads are for vehicles, they're a dipshit. If they equate standing in a vehicle entrance with bravery, then be brave.


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15 Aug 2019, 3:30 pm

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Fnord wrote:
Persephone29 wrote:
... No one has the right to block another person's entrance into a facility, abortion clinic, etc...
Actually, they do -- under limited circumstances, of course. Otherwise, no labor union could ever be allowed to form a picket line. True, physically restraining someone from entering their place of business could get them arrested, and trespassing charges could be brought against them if they do it on private property, but I've been on picket lines where we locked arms in a line to prevent delivery trucks from getting anywhere near a loading dock, and no one could do anything about it as long as we stayed between the sidewalk and the street.


Well, we could go with the 'right' to do whatever you want, but don't b***h about the consequences of exercising that right. You cannot predict what sort of individuals you may come up against. If protesters pit their will against a nut job, they just might get run over. And then scream about the injustice while recovering in a body cast... John Wayne said it best, "if you're gonna be stupid, you'd better be tough."

If a person is minding their own business and gets run over, they'll have all my sympathy. But the very notion of putting oneself in harms way, to protect others, is accepting the danger. If an individual stands in a road, knowing roads are for vehicles, they're a dipshit. If they equate standing in a vehicle entrance with bravery, then be brave.


That's a good point. If you're going to fight for a cause, be prepared to face the consequences.


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Persephone29 wrote:
Fnord wrote:
Persephone29 wrote:
... No one has the right to block another person's entrance into a facility, abortion clinic, etc...
Actually, they do -- under limited circumstances, of course. Otherwise, no labor union could ever be allowed to form a picket line. True, physically restraining someone from entering their place of business could get them arrested, and trespassing charges could be brought against them if they do it on private property, but I've been on picket lines where we locked arms in a line to prevent delivery trucks from getting anywhere near a loading dock, and no one could do anything about it as long as we stayed between the sidewalk and the street.
Well, we could go with the 'right' to do whatever you want, but don't b***h about the consequences of exercising that right. You cannot predict what sort of individuals you may come up against. If protesters pit their will against a nut job, they just might get run over. And then scream about the injustice while recovering in a body cast... John Wayne said it best, "if you're gonna be stupid, you'd better be tough." If a person is minding their own business and gets run over, they'll have all my sympathy. But the very notion of putting oneself in harms way, to protect others, is accepting the danger. If an individual stands in a road, knowing roads are for vehicles, they're a dipshit. If they equate standing in a vehicle entrance with bravery, then be brave.
That's a good point. If you're going to fight for a cause, be prepared to face the consequences.
Absolutely! So if your way of fighting for your cause is to run over people who are standing between you and your destination, then you had better be prepared to face the consequences of criminal charges and civil lawsuits.


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Fnord wrote:
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Persephone29 wrote:
Fnord wrote:
Persephone29 wrote:
... No one has the right to block another person's entrance into a facility, abortion clinic, etc...
Actually, they do -- under limited circumstances, of course. Otherwise, no labor union could ever be allowed to form a picket line. True, physically restraining someone from entering their place of business could get them arrested, and trespassing charges could be brought against them if they do it on private property, but I've been on picket lines where we locked arms in a line to prevent delivery trucks from getting anywhere near a loading dock, and no one could do anything about it as long as we stayed between the sidewalk and the street.
Well, we could go with the 'right' to do whatever you want, but don't b***h about the consequences of exercising that right. You cannot predict what sort of individuals you may come up against. If protesters pit their will against a nut job, they just might get run over. And then scream about the injustice while recovering in a body cast... John Wayne said it best, "if you're gonna be stupid, you'd better be tough." If a person is minding their own business and gets run over, they'll have all my sympathy. But the very notion of putting oneself in harms way, to protect others, is accepting the danger. If an individual stands in a road, knowing roads are for vehicles, they're a dipshit. If they equate standing in a vehicle entrance with bravery, then be brave.
That's a good point. If you're going to fight for a cause, be prepared to face the consequences.
Absolutely! So if your way of fighting for your cause is to run over people who are standing between you and your destination, then you had better be prepared to face the consequences of criminal charges and civil lawsuits.


Agreed, and it works both ways. If protestors want to fight against injustice they need backbone.


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