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19 Feb 2020, 11:24 pm

Lawyers for Jullian Assange say he was offered a US pardon for denying Russian hacking.

It's claimed a former US congressman offered him a pardon on behalf of president Donald Trump,in exchange for denying Russian involvement in the DNC email leak.Trump and the lawmaker have denied this accusation.

Lawyer Edward Fitzgerald told a court on wednesday that a witness statement application claimed that then CA rep. Dana Rohrabacher visited Assange at the Equadorean embassy in London.It's alleged Rohabacher's mission was to offer a pardon if Assange would play ball by saying Russia had nothing to do with leaks.

The comment were made a Westminster magistrates court in London,on a hearing on the US request to have Assange extradicted back to the US to face espionage charges.

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19 Feb 2020, 11:31 pm

Pardon me for being sceptical.



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19 Feb 2020, 11:45 pm

i put nothing past the present crowd in DC.



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19 Feb 2020, 11:46 pm

Shabrem wrote:
Pardon me for being sceptical.
Story I have seen on two reliable news sources.


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20 Feb 2020, 12:04 am

vermontsavant wrote:
Shabrem wrote:
Pardon me for being sceptical.
Story I have seen on two reliable news sources.


I do not think that is what Shabrem is being skeptical about. A lot of people are expecting a series of things that will require another probe, another investigation, something to re-impeach Trump over, as the election year progresses. A lot if not most of it going back to russiagate.



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20 Feb 2020, 12:10 am

EzraS wrote:
vermontsavant wrote:
Shabrem wrote:
Pardon me for being sceptical.
Story I have seen on two reliable news sources.


I do not think that is what Shabrem is being skeptical about.
What do you think he was being sceptical about.


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20 Feb 2020, 12:11 am

See what I added to my post above.



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20 Feb 2020, 2:01 am

I'm saying there is a lot of fake news out there. Just because someone reports something doesn't make it so.
Conversely, it doesn't make it false.
I see no need to jump at shadows. Time will tell. I am patient when it comes to politics.



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20 Feb 2020, 2:18 am

vermontsavant wrote:
Lawyers for Jullian Assange say he was offered a US pardon for denying Russian hacking.

It's claimed a former US congressman offered him a pardon on behalf of president Donald Trump,in exchange for denying Russian involvement in the DNC email leak.Trump and the lawmaker have denied this accusation.

Lawyer Edward Fitzgerald told a court on wednesday that a witness statement application claimed that then CA rep. Dana Rohrabacher visited Assange at the Equadorean embassy in London.It's alleged Rohabacher's mission was to offer a pardon if Assange would play ball by saying Russia had nothing to do with leaks.

The comment were made a Westminster magistrates court in London,on a hearing on the US request to have Assange extradicted back to the US to face espionage charges.

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This actually seems quite plausible and resonates with what Hillary Clinton said about Assange's involvement with the email scandal that contributed to her demise.



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20 Feb 2020, 7:41 am

EzraS wrote:
vermontsavant wrote:
Shabrem wrote:
Pardon me for being sceptical.
Story I have seen on two reliable news sources.


I do not think that is what Shabrem is being skeptical about. A lot of people are expecting a series of things that will require another probe, another investigation, something to re-impeach Trump over, as the election year progresses. A lot if not most of it going back to russiagate.
I don't think Assange has enough credibility with a remote gubanatorial faction for this to ever lead to investigations or impeachment inquiries.Assange is still to much of a rogue and misfit in the eyes of the gubanatorial world for these accusations to lead to anything.


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20 Feb 2020, 8:08 am

vermontsavant wrote:
EzraS wrote:
vermontsavant wrote:
Shabrem wrote:
Pardon me for being sceptical.
Story I have seen on two reliable news sources.


I do not think that is what Shabrem is being skeptical about. A lot of people are expecting a series of things that will require another probe, another investigation, something to re-impeach Trump over, as the election year progresses. A lot if not most of it going back to russiagate.
I don't think Assange has enough credibility with a remote gubanatorial faction for this to ever lead to investigations or impeachment inquiries.Assange is still to much of a rogue and misfit in the eyes of the gubanatorial world for these accusations to lead to anything.


It's not him making the claim but his lawyer. For whatever that is worth.
And if not this one, then maybe the next or the next after that.
The prediction from many is that there will be several instances of some new whistleblower coming forward with dirt on Trump that will continue on a regular basis during the rest of the election year.



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20 Feb 2020, 8:44 am

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It's not him making the claim but his lawyer. For whatever that is worth.
And if not this one, then maybe the next or the next after that.
The prediction from many is that there will be several instances of some new whistleblower coming forward with dirt on Trump that will continue on a regular basis during the rest of the election year.


I know his lawyer spoke of these accusations in court,I copied the article myself by hand,I know what it says.But Assange must have spoken of this first otherwise how could the lawyer then have this knowledge,unless your arguing that the lawyer commited purgery and made up the whole thing himself,but saying made up things in open court is a serious crime.

Many more accusations may very well come but I don't see this one being taken seriously by the powers that be.


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20 Feb 2020, 9:01 am

vermontsavant wrote:
EzraS wrote:

It's not him making the claim but his lawyer. For whatever that is worth.
And if not this one, then maybe the next or the next after that.
The prediction from many is that there will be several instances of some new whistleblower coming forward with dirt on Trump that will continue on a regular basis during the rest of the election year.


I know his lawyer spoke of these accusations in court,I copied the article myself by hand,I know what it says.But Assange must have spoken of this first otherwise how could the lawyer then have this knowledge,unless your arguing that the lawyer commited purgery and made up the whole thing himself,but saying made up things in open court is a serious crime.

Many more accusations may very well come but I don't see this one being taken seriously by the powers that be.


Ack my bad. I was thinking the lawyer was saying the congressman offered the deal to him (the lawyer) personally. Sometimes I read posts while in bed during one of my periodic nighly wake ups while not entirely awake. That was one of those occasions.

Now that I understand it is solely Assange making the claim I agree with what you are saying.

Sorry for the mix up.



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20 Feb 2020, 9:27 am

In light of the most recent Quid Pro Quo accusation, I doubt it would be conducted this shamelessly. Also, if I remember correctly, the leaks resulted in the lives of foreign informants being imperiled. So to say that Assange and Manning did anything but put even more Iraqi and Afghani lives in danger is fantasy. Obama and Killary cared about nothing an no one, not US soldiers or innocent citizens of the regions, even local informants. So, with or without Assange's leaks, people would've gone on dying just like they did. I am grateful to Assange that he at least exposed Obama/Killary for the frauds they were. But, it certainly changed the face of how we got intel on the movements of terror organizations. Some informants were granted immigration status to the US because of the risks they took. It's hard to see how this accomplished anything other than exposing Hillary Clinton. Which was a good thing for Trump supporters, but hardly worth another accusation of quid pro quo.

Everybody knows the US is a war machine, the US has been exposed for heinous acts during times of war again and again. While very sad and disturbing, none of this is new. It's just a different war. I vote we stop worrying about why this came about, or who funded it. And just be glad we now know. I don't think we should ever stop trying to treat innocent citizens of other countries better though. If his leaks help to eventually accomplish that, it will be another good outcome.


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20 Feb 2020, 9:49 am

EzraS wrote:
vermontsavant wrote:
EzraS wrote:

It's not him making the claim but his lawyer. For whatever that is worth.
And if not this one, then maybe the next or the next after that.
The prediction from many is that there will be several instances of some new whistleblower coming forward with dirt on Trump that will continue on a regular basis during the rest of the election year.


I know his lawyer spoke of these accusations in court,I copied the article myself by hand,I know what it says.But Assange must have spoken of this first otherwise how could the lawyer then have this knowledge,unless your arguing that the lawyer commited purgery and made up the whole thing himself,but saying made up things in open court is a serious crime.

Many more accusations may very well come but I don't see this one being taken seriously by the powers that be.


Ack my bad. I was thinking the lawyer was saying the congressman offered the deal to him (the lawyer) personally. Sometimes I read posts while in bed during one of my periodic nighly wake ups while not entirely awake. That was one of those occasions.

Now that I understand it is solely Assange making the claim I agree with what you are saying.

Sorry for the mix up.
It appears in the article that the congressman visited Assange but it is also possible his attorney could have been present at the time as well.It is also possible that the lawyer may have encouraged Assange to come out with the accusation.But I think neither Assange nor his lawyer will be believable people in the eyes of governmental authorities.

My guess is much more will come out on this case and conspiracy buffs will carry the bag for this issue.


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20 Feb 2020, 12:02 pm

vermontsavant wrote:
EzraS wrote:
vermontsavant wrote:
EzraS wrote:

It's not him making the claim but his lawyer. For whatever that is worth.
And if not this one, then maybe the next or the next after that.
The prediction from many is that there will be several instances of some new whistleblower coming forward with dirt on Trump that will continue on a regular basis during the rest of the election year.


I know his lawyer spoke of these accusations in court,I copied the article myself by hand,I know what it says.But Assange must have spoken of this first otherwise how could the lawyer then have this knowledge,unless your arguing that the lawyer commited purgery and made up the whole thing himself,but saying made up things in open court is a serious crime.

Many more accusations may very well come but I don't see this one being taken seriously by the powers that be.


Ack my bad. I was thinking the lawyer was saying the congressman offered the deal to him (the lawyer) personally. Sometimes I read posts while in bed during one of my periodic nighly wake ups while not entirely awake. That was one of those occasions.

Now that I understand it is solely Assange making the claim I agree with what you are saying.

Sorry for the mix up.
It appears in the article that the congressman visited Assange but it is also possible his attorney could have been present at the time as well.It is also possible that the lawyer may have encouraged Assange to come out with the accusation.But I think neither Assange nor his lawyer will be believable people in the eyes of governmental authorities.

My guess is much more will come out on this case and conspiracy buffs will carry the bag for this issue.


Is Assange compos mentis? There have been accusations that he has been subjected to psychological torture.
This could affect his credibility.