Sweden the only country with Correct Approach to CVD-19

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06 Jul 2020, 1:21 am

Gotcha. Thanks for those last few posts. Lot are of interesting info. 8)


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06 Jul 2020, 5:37 am

I have IgG antibodies for COVID-19.



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11 Sep 2020, 10:03 pm

Looks like my original premise has been vindicated again.

Sweden now has fewer deaths per day than most other countries including Australia
https://www.news.com.au/world/europe/co ... 659e394ec5

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12 Sep 2020, 3:44 am

All the people who had to die, already did :twisted:


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12 Sep 2020, 3:51 am

cyberdad wrote:
Looks like my original premise has been vindicated again.

Sweden now has fewer deaths per day than most other countries including Australia
https://www.news.com.au/world/europe/co ... 659e394ec5

Your article states:

" coronavirus fatalities still puts it near the top 10 of countries with the worst death rates".

So, Sweden seems to have a terrible approach.


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12 Sep 2020, 5:42 am

cyberdad wrote:
Looks like my original premise has been vindicated again.

Sweden now has fewer deaths per day than most other countries including Australia
https://www.news.com.au/world/europe/co ... 659e394ec5

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Article said one professional agreed Sweden was vindicated. Everybody else either disagreed or thought it was still and open question.. In Sweden most people did wear masks and social distanced. And unlike America, Italy, and Brazil Sweden's health system seemed to be able handle the surge needed to create herd immunity.


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12 Sep 2020, 5:47 am

ASPartOfMe wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
Looks like my original premise has been vindicated again.

Sweden now has fewer deaths per day than most other countries including Australia
https://www.news.com.au/world/europe/co ... 659e394ec5

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Article said one professional agreed Sweden was vindicated. Everybody else either disagreed or thought it was still and open question.. In Sweden most people did wear masks and social distanced. And unlike America, Italy, and Brazil Sweden's health system seemed to be able handle the surge needed to create herd immunity.

The weak link of Swedish approach turned out to be underpaid care home workers. They too often couldn't afford to miss work when sick.
Probably the mortality would have been lower if they took time to adress this issue before setting everything loose.


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12 Sep 2020, 6:37 am

Sweden’s approach might have been good for Sweden with its relatively small population—but it probably wouldn’t have worked in NYC. Maybe in less populated parts of the US.

If we just laissez-faired it in NYC, we might have had, say, 50,000 deaths instead of 25,000.



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13 Sep 2020, 1:47 am

I think the value of the Swedish experiment is to provide an experimental condition to monitor opening the population to herd immunity.

But yes the model is probably for smaller sparsely populated countries.



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22 Sep 2020, 12:34 am

Sweden spared surge of virus cases but many questions remain


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28 Sep 2020, 4:49 am

Considering Sweden have not done any lockdown they aren't doing that bad

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Not saying they could have done better. The deaths could have been avoided with stricter security for those at risk like nursing homes.



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20 Oct 2020, 7:23 pm

After Months of Minimal COVID-19 Containment, Sweden Appears to Be Considering a New Approach

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Swedish authorities appear to be reconsidering their notoriously lax approach to COVID-19 containment, which has contributed to one of the world’s higher coronavirus death rates.

Starting Oct. 19, regional health authorities may direct citizens to avoid high-risk areas such as gyms, concerts, public transportation and shopping centers, the Telegraph reports. They may also encourage residents to avoid socializing with elderly or other high-risk individuals.

A legal official from Sweden’s public health agency told the Telegraph the new policy is “something in between regulations and recommendations.” Violating the guidelines, for example, would not result in fines. Still, it’s a significant shift from Sweden’s previous handling of the coronavirus pandemic.

Sweden’s testing and contact tracing capacities are lacking.

As of Oct. 18, Sweden’s per-capita death rate—58.6 per 100,000 people—was among the highest in the world. And from early September to early October, average daily cases nationwide rose by 173%, with particularly dramatic increases in cities such as Stockholm and Uppsala.

These hard-hit areas are the focus of Sweden’s shifting guidance, according to the Telegraph‘s report.

National studies, however, show that far fewer people have developed natural immunity than officials hoped—as evidenced by the ongoing spike in infections. Sweden’s state epidemiologist Anders Tegnell acknowledged that reality last week.

“I think the obvious conclusion is that the level of immunity in those cities is not at all as high as we have, as maybe some people, have believed,” Tegnell said. “I think what we are seeing is very much a consequence of the very heterogeneous spread that this disease has, which means that even if you feel like there have been a lot of cases in some big cities, there are still huge pockets of people who have not been affected yet.”


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20 Oct 2020, 9:44 pm

I am not sure what percentage of the population has been tested so they may be drawing premature conclusions.



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21 Oct 2020, 1:51 pm

Normally, since Sweden is a socialist country, I don't agree with many of their policies, aside from universal health care, which could be a good idea if done correctly. However, when dealing with "The Virus", it would seem they are spot-on. Mandating things only makes people rebel and hate those causing their oppression, or at least it does for me. I have a strong tendency to question any authority, especially if it inconveniences me. I agree with Sweden. Let people make their own choices. High-five Sweden!! ! :D


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21 Oct 2020, 3:44 pm

The news has been dominated on a daily basis for nearly a year regarding safety protocol such as wearing face masks and distancing. The last few months has been the same info repeated over and over. Most everyone everyone has gotten it by now.