Jogger shot in Georgia for being Black

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14 May 2020, 7:00 pm

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The fact that they're able to hide behind legal protections to get away with murder is part of the problem so whether or not it meets the legal standard isn't of concern to me. I'll celebrate the day Zimmerman gets caught too.


Another recurring theme in these dramas where African Americans get shot or arrested for basically conducting their daily lives is where they "trespass" into predominantly white neighbourhoods. In the Zimmerman case the elephant in the room was that Trayvon Martin's presence in a "white space" was probably the biggest trigger in Zimmerman stalking the teen.

These separate neighborhoods/schools/workplaces are relict from jim crow days and I suspect a big factor in black people getting arrested for doing things like jogging, eating sandwiches at train stations, selling lemonade on the side-walk, getting blocked from entering their own premises or getting stopped when driving through a "leafy" suburb..,



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14 May 2020, 9:27 pm

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The county prosecutor says the video shows it's Mr. Aubrey who initiated the fight by grabbing the shotgun. .


The irony is Aubrey may have thought he had to defend himself.


That, and considering Georgia's history of racial violence and oppression, Aubrey as a black man I'm sure was absolutely certain he was about to become the victim of a lynching when he grabbed for the gun.


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15 May 2020, 12:46 am

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cyberdad wrote:
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The county prosecutor says the video shows it's Mr. Aubrey who initiated the fight by grabbing the shotgun. .


The irony is Aubrey may have thought he had to defend himself.


That, and considering Georgia's history of racial violence and oppression, Aubrey as a black man I'm sure was absolutely certain he was about to become the victim of a lynching when he grabbed for the gun.


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15 May 2020, 10:20 pm

A new, 4th prosecutor has been named to take the case.
https://news.yahoo.com/black-republican ... 04021.html


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15 May 2020, 10:24 pm

I watched the long version of the video taken from the dashcam of a third person (buddy of the shooters).

It shows 3 shots. The first went through the victim's hand and the second hit him in the body. When the victim attempted to flee the shooter (McHale) shot him while he was running.

It should be an open and shut case of murder based on the video. The decision of Mchale following the jogger is now getting closer to being a race hate crime as I doubt a white jogger would have attracted any attention.



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15 May 2020, 10:44 pm

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I watched the long version of the video taken from the dashcam of a third person (buddy of the shooters).

It shows 3 shots. The first went through the victim's hand and the second hit him in the body. When the victim attempted to flee the shooter (McHale) shot him while he was running.

It should be an open and shut case of murder based on the video. The decision of Mchale following the jogger is now getting closer to being a race hate crime as I doubt a white jogger would have attracted any attention.

The owner of the dashcam video says he doesn't know the father and son.

The prosecutor report is based on this video.

The prosecutor report says the video shows Mr. Aubrey charged the son and grabbed for the shotgun.


The prosecutor report says this is why the first gun shot is in Mr. Aubrey's hand.

All the shots occur while they're in close proximity, and are struggling over the shotgun.

It should also be noted Mr. Aubrey is throwing head punches during this struggle.


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15 May 2020, 11:00 pm

The deceased Aubrey was likely defending himself against a threat made toward him. Lets see how this plays out in court. Aubrey like Trayvon Martin is not around to give testimony which is convenient for McHale's lawyers who will fabricate their own narrative like George Zimmerman's legal team successfully did.



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16 May 2020, 8:15 pm

cyberdad wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
The fact that they're able to hide behind legal protections to get away with murder is part of the problem so whether or not it meets the legal standard isn't of concern to me. I'll celebrate the day Zimmerman gets caught too.


Another recurring theme in these dramas where African Americans get shot or arrested for basically conducting their daily lives is where they "trespass" into predominantly white neighbourhoods. In the Zimmerman case the elephant in the room was that Trayvon Martin's presence in a "white space" was probably the biggest trigger in Zimmerman stalking the teen.

These separate neighborhoods/schools/workplaces are relict from jim crow days and I suspect a big factor in black people getting arrested for doing things like jogging, eating sandwiches at train stations, selling lemonade on the side-walk, getting blocked from entering their own premises or getting stopped when driving through a "leafy" suburb..,



What is the solution to this? It's easy to say this, but people live where they live. They can't just up and move to the projects, offer a black family their home so that the neighborhood is more diverse. Or, reduce the asking price of their home so that someone who ordinarily might not be able to afford it, can. I'm not sure how it is in Australia, but blacks in the US like living in the same neighborhood with each other. And they don't like it when a white family moves in. I know this first hand, because I lived in a black neighborhood for 9 years.


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16 May 2020, 8:30 pm

Aboriginal people in Australia and African Americans in the US were both restricted on where they could move up to the 1960s. But today the aboriginals have largely assimilated and (at least in Victoria) into mainstream Australian populations. No longer white spaces here. How did it happen?

A typical aboriginal family is indistinguishable from an average Aussie family because a of a policy of forced assimilation during the 1900s where children were taken from aboriginal families into christian missions and then fostered in white families. Over 3 generations they totally lost their identity as can be seen by this government poster (it was Australian government policy)

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16 May 2020, 9:58 pm

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Aboriginal people in Australia and African Americans in the US were both restricted on where they could move up to the 1960s. But today the aboriginals have largely assimilated and (at least in Victoria) into mainstream Australian populations. No longer white spaces here. How did it happen?

A typical aboriginal family is indistinguishable from an average Aussie family because a of a policy of forced assimilation during the 1900s where children were taken from aboriginal families into christian missions and then fostered in white families. Over 3 generations they totally lost their identity as can be seen by this government poster (it was Australian government policy)

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In the US, they would arrest you for kidnapping, IF you made it out of the house alive with the kid. You can'y just steal somebody's kid in my country. Of all the suggestions you could make, I never thought it would be this one. I expected you to say something like steal one half of the white's land and money and give it all to the blacks. But, not kidnapping.
So basically what you are after is everyone being a nice shade of beige? What a boring world that would be. I like color.


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16 May 2020, 10:03 pm

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In the US, they would arrest you for kidnapping, IF you made it out of the house alive with the kid. You can'y just steal somebody's kid in my country.


That's nonsense, your government had an official policy of stealing indigenous children from their homes and sending them to boarding schools, just like his country and my country.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_ ... ng_schools


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16 May 2020, 11:59 pm

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Of all the suggestions you could make, I never thought it would be this one. I expected you to say something like steal one half of the white's land and money and give it all to the blacks. But, not kidnapping.
So basically what you are after is everyone being a nice shade of beige? What a boring world that would be. I like color.


I think you misunderstand. Aboriginals have been forcibly assimilated already.

In the US Jim crow laws forbid miscegenation between Africans Americans and whites. Even though those laws were revoked in the 1960s there is still a huge stigma against interracial relationships and the symptoms of can still be seen when a African American trespasses into white spaces in the US. The #while being black has become a popular meme. Another one I saw recently (and there seems to be hundreds) includes cutting white peoples lawn while being black. That one is the most preposterous where a black gardener was harassed by police when he was employed to cut grass in a predominately white neighbourhood.

White Americans think blacks complain too much. The invention of the mobile phone means their daily torment can now be filmed and passed on to radio stations/newspapers.



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17 May 2020, 8:43 am

Exactly why I hate this crap hole and really resent the fact that my dad dragged my mom and I down here to retire <,<



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17 May 2020, 10:22 am

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In the US, they would arrest you for kidnapping, IF you made it out of the house alive with the kid. You can'y just steal somebody's kid in my country.


That's nonsense, your government had an official policy of stealing indigenous children from their homes and sending them to boarding schools, just like his country and my country.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_ ... ng_schools



They did do this. But, it's frowned upon in modern times.


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17 May 2020, 10:29 am

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Of all the suggestions you could make, I never thought it would be this one. I expected you to say something like steal one half of the white's land and money and give it all to the blacks. But, not kidnapping.
So basically what you are after is everyone being a nice shade of beige? What a boring world that would be. I like color.


I think you misunderstand. Aboriginals have been forcibly assimilated already.

In the US Jim crow laws forbid miscegenation between Africans Americans and whites. Even though those laws were revoked in the 1960s there is still a huge stigma against interracial relationships and the symptoms of can still be seen when a African American trespasses into white spaces in the US. The #while being black has become a popular meme. Another one I saw recently (and there seems to be hundreds) includes cutting white peoples lawn while being black. That one is the most preposterous where a black gardener was harassed by police when he was employed to cut grass in a predominately white neighbourhood.


White Americans think blacks complain too much. The invention of the mobile phone means their daily torment can now be filmed and passed on to radio stations/newspapers.



I know many interracial couples and their children. It's not near as taboo as people claim. It was taboo in the past, but the younger generations are not following in the footsteps of their parents. I know for myself and I've said this here before, I would much rather my kids and grand kids marry a motivated black individual, than a white loser any day.

There will always be people who hold unreasonable hatred in their hearts. I don't know what to do about those people, do you?


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17 May 2020, 10:31 am

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Exactly why I hate this crap hole and really resent the fact that my dad dragged my mom and I down here to retire <,<



Retire? You must be older, then?

Why don't you go back to where it's better? I would. If I hated where I was, I wouldn't spend a minute more there.


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