White man and woman deface Black Lives Matter mural in CA.

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Since when were BLM Marxists?

Black Lives Matter co-founder Patrisse Cullors said in a newly surfaced video from 2015 that she and her fellow organizers are “trained Marxists” – making clear their movement’s ideological foundation, according to a report.

Cullors, 36, was the protégé of Eric Mann, former agitator of the Weather Underground domestic terror organization, and spent years absorbing the Marxist-Leninist ideology that shaped her worldview, Breitbart News reported.

“The first thing, I think, is that we actually do have an ideological frame. Myself and Alicia in particular are trained organizers,” she said, referring to BLM co-founder Alicia Garza.

“We are trained Marxists. We are super-versed on, sort of, ideological theories. And I think that what we really tried to do is build a movement that could be utilized by many, many black folk,” Cullors added in the interview with Jared Ball of The Real News Network.

While promoting her book “When They Call You a Terrorist: A Black Lives Matter Memoir” in 2018, Cullors described her introduction to and support for Marxist ideology.

She described to Democracy Now! how she became a trained organizer with the Labor/Community Strategy Center, which she called her “first political home” under the mentorship of Mann, its director, Breitbart reported.

The center, which describes its philosophy as “an urban experiment,” uses grassroots organization to “focus on Black and Latino communities with deep historical ties to the long history of anti-colonial, anti-imperialist, pro-communist resistance to the US empire,” according to the outlet.

It also expresses its appreciation for the work of the US Communist Party, “especially Black communists,” as well as its support for “the great work of the Black Panther Party, the American Indian Movement, Young Lords, Brown Berets, and the great revolutionary rainbow experiments of the 1970s,” Breitbart reported.

In 1968, Mann was a coordinator for Students for a Democratic Society, from which a more radical wing –- the Weather Underground — was splintered the following year.

It was led by Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn, who called for “direct action” over civil disobedience, seeking the overthrow of the US government. In 1969, the FBI classified the group as a domestic terror organization.

Mann was eventually charged with assault and battery, disturbing the peace, damaging property, defacing a building and disturbing a public assembly, for which he spent 18 months behind bars.

Whining that the founders are socialists really isn't a worthwhile criticism, so it's not even something I'm defending them against. Socialism isn't even inherently a bad thing.

I was referring more to your use of "Just because the founders have certain viewpoints doesn't mean you need to share these to be involved" with regards to a group on one side of the political spectrum, and yet automatically assume those involved in a group on the other side of the political spectrum share all (or at least the worst) beliefs you can associate with the leaders (or even a small subset of the members) of that group...

I guess I'll be more fair to the far-right and describe them as racism enablers instead of racists going forward if that keeps your feathers from becoming ruffled.

Defunding the police is about reform. It isn't abolition, it's reallocating funds to non-police social services and reassigning some of the work police do to those people because cops shouldn't be sent to deal with every single non-policing issue in town because it often escalates the problem.

Are you suggesting that the experience of black Americans over the past 400 years be discounted because their perspective will make white Americans uncomfortable and question their patriotism? That's not a valid excuse to keep the history of non-white Americans from being taught. If you don't believe that indigenous or black perspectives are worth including you're part of the problem.

to stop providing the money to pay for something

Cambridge Dictionary - Defund

It does not say lower the amount of money provided, it means to stop it.

IMHO what happened that idea of stopping all funding received blowback it so they did what the left is so good at changing the meaning of words so defund means something more palatable. I strongly suspect the end goal to still to eliminate the police.

What I am suggesting has nothing to with making people uncomfortable, what I am suggesting is this is all about setting the stage for a revolution, overthrowing the system, and replacing it with something Marxist like.

FYI I am not for continuing the whitewashing of historical figures. I am against replacing purely heroic interpretations with purely evil interpretations. In other words, replacing not discussing their racism with solely defining them by their racism.

The dictionary isn't going to inform you on the way the term 'defund the police' has been used in recent history, but I believe you already understand that.

Of course, I do. That is what I wrote of the left being so good at changing the meaning of words to weaponize them. They did it with "privilege". Got to give credit where credit is due nobody has come up with an effective way to stop them, they usually eventually get their way. That does not mean I have to like it.