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21 Jul 2020, 9:20 pm

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Because human nature is to fill in the blanks with imagination. It’s the method of our greatest discoveries and worst crimes.



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21 Jul 2020, 9:26 pm

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Mr Rollins called his father on the phone and his father Cyril rushed to the lake only to find all three dead.

This is not accurate.

The son was found alive, and spoke with his father.

'I was holding him. He was telling me what happened,' Cyril Rollins says
https://www.foxnews.com/us/florida-man- ... e-homicide

So, presumably, the police know what happened.

The father had forgotten his phone, and left his son and drove to a gas station to call 911.

When the father returned, the son was dead.


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21 Jul 2020, 9:48 pm

TheRobotLives wrote:
vermontsavant wrote:
Mr Rollins called his father on the phone and his father Cyril rushed to the lake only to find all three dead.

This is not accurate.

The son was found alive, and spoke with his father.

'I was holding him. He was telling me what happened,' Cyril Rollins says
https://www.foxnews.com/us/florida-man- ... e-homicide

So, presumably, the police know what happened.

The father had forgotten his phone, and left his son and drove to a gas station to call 911.

When the father returned, the son was dead.


There a few oddities in the initial report. Such as: Why didn't the son call 911 for help first, then his father? Why didn't the father use his son's phone to dial 911? Why on earth would the gas station owner allow his 17 year old daughter to accompany a stranger to a crime scene? Only in Florida I guess...



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21 Jul 2020, 10:17 pm

Aristophanes wrote:
TheRobotLives wrote:
vermontsavant wrote:
Mr Rollins called his father on the phone and his father Cyril rushed to the lake only to find all three dead.

This is not accurate.

The son was found alive, and spoke with his father.

'I was holding him. He was telling me what happened,' Cyril Rollins says
https://www.foxnews.com/us/florida-man- ... e-homicide

So, presumably, the police know what happened.

The father had forgotten his phone, and left his son and drove to a gas station to call 911.

When the father returned, the son was dead.


There a few oddities in the initial report. Such as: Why didn't the son call 911 for help first, then his father? Why didn't the father use his son's phone to dial 911? Why on earth would the gas station owner allow his 17 year old daughter to accompany a stranger to a crime scene? Only in Florida I guess...

Right, and why would a father leave his son dying, and not put him in his truck and drive him to a hospital.


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21 Jul 2020, 10:18 pm

TheRobotLives wrote:
vermontsavant wrote:
Mr Rollins called his father on the phone and his father Cyril rushed to the lake only to find all three dead.

This is not accurate.

The son was found alive, and spoke with his father.

'I was holding him. He was telling me what happened,' Cyril Rollins says
https://www.foxnews.com/us/florida-man- ... e-homicide

So, presumably, the police know what happened.

The father had forgotten his phone, and left his son and drove to a gas station to call 911.

When the father returned, the son was dead.

Yes,my original post said that the son told his father what happened but the son was close to death.

The father in his panic left his cell phone at home and had to find a store clerk to call the police.
The police won't release what they know about what happened.


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21 Jul 2020, 10:20 pm

TheRobotLives wrote:
Aristophanes wrote:
TheRobotLives wrote:
vermontsavant wrote:
Mr Rollins called his father on the phone and his father Cyril rushed to the lake only to find all three dead.

This is not accurate.

The son was found alive, and spoke with his father.

'I was holding him. He was telling me what happened,' Cyril Rollins says
https://www.foxnews.com/us/florida-man- ... e-homicide

So, presumably, the police know what happened.

The father had forgotten his phone, and left his son and drove to a gas station to call 911.

When the father returned, the son was dead.


There a few oddities in the initial report. Such as: Why didn't the son call 911 for help first, then his father? Why didn't the father use his son's phone to dial 911? Why on earth would the gas station owner allow his 17 year old daughter to accompany a stranger to a crime scene? Only in Florida I guess...

Right, and why would a father leave his son dying, and not put him in his truck and drive him to a hospital.

Maybe the son was to close to death or maybe the son told the father the events on the phone but was dead when the father arrived.


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21 Jul 2020, 10:46 pm

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Maybe the son was to close to death or maybe the son told the father the events on the phone but was dead when the father arrived.

This has been reported:
1. The father found his son alive.
2. The father was holding his son, while the son told his father what happened.
3. When the father left to get help, his son was still alive.

https://www.wired2fish.com/general/thre ... al-killer/

You would think the father would put his son into his truck, and race like hell to a hospital.

You would think there would be lots of phones on the scene, like the son's phone. So, why didn't the father grab one of them?


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21 Jul 2020, 10:56 pm

Why has nobody blamed Florida man?



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22 Jul 2020, 12:30 am

TheRobotLives wrote:
vermontsavant wrote:
Maybe the son was to close to death or maybe the son told the father the events on the phone but was dead when the father arrived.

This has been reported:
1. The father found his son alive.
2. The father was holding his son, while the son told his father what happened.
3. When the father left to get help, his son was still alive.

https://www.wired2fish.com/general/thre ... al-killer/

You would think the father would put his son into his truck, and race like hell to a hospital.

You would think there would be lots of phones on the scene, like the son's phone. So, why didn't the father grab one of them?

I don't know,why didn't the father call an ambulance right after the son called, instead of rushing to the scene himself.

Nothing here makes sense, really!


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22 Jul 2020, 7:17 am

cyberdad wrote:
Why has nobody blamed Florida man?


Maybe noone has blamed Florida man because it was an insane act of murder and not a careless suicide.



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22 Jul 2020, 7:50 am

A theory I just heard is that; Someone had a beef with one of the men(which one unknown)and knew where they would be and showed up to kill them.The other two men were killed simply to silence witnesses.Just a theory,but makes sense.


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22 Jul 2020, 7:57 am

vermontsavant wrote:
A theory I just heard is that; Someone had a beef with one of the men(which one unknown)and knew where they would be and showed up to kill them.The other two men were killed simply to silence witnesses.Just a theory,but makes sense.

It's Florida, nothing makes sense there man. It's like going into an alternate dimension where up is down, and down is up. Any other location I'd agree with you that's a plausible explanation, but not in Florida, nothing is that cut and dry there.



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22 Jul 2020, 8:24 am

Its sad how our world is sinking into barbarism.



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22 Jul 2020, 8:33 am

It was a clever alligator.


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22 Jul 2020, 8:35 am

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22 Jul 2020, 6:18 pm

They got them.

26 year old Tony "TJ" Williams is the suspected murder, he's the guy in the left of the picture.

He has over 230 felony charges, 15 felony convictions.

Charges:
-Tony "TJ" Wiggins has been charged with first-degree murder, tampering with evidence, and possession of a firearm/ammunition by a convicted felon.
-William "Robert" Williams has been charged with tampering with evidence, and accessory after the fact.
-Mary Whittemore has been charged with accessory after the fact of a capital felony.

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https://www.nbc-2.com/story/42399543/de ... lehomicide


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