Trump Admits He Opposes Funding USPS To Limit Mail-in Voting

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17 Aug 2020, 2:29 am

Even Tay Tay thinks the bad orange man is cheating
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17 Aug 2020, 8:43 am

This whole mail in vote controversy is a pretext to explain Biden's loss come November. Since we didn't change the way people have voted for 240 years the election was unfair and Trump's win isn't legitimate.

If you are concerned about the safety of voting in the upcoming election you do have alternatives; You can vote absentee. Early voting is available. Take precautions if having to vote in person. Go at a less busy time of day, wear a mask and gloves. You can contact your local precinct and ask for advice on what special accommodations are available due to the pandemic.



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17 Aug 2020, 9:05 am

Mr Reynholm wrote:
This whole mail in vote controversy is a pretext to explain Biden's loss come November. Since we didn't change the way people have voted for 240 years the election was unfair and Trump's win isn't legitimate.

If you are concerned about the safety of voting in the upcoming election you do have alternatives; You can vote absentee. Early voting is available. Take precautions if having to vote in person. Go at a less busy time of day, wear a mask and gloves. You can contact your local precinct and ask for advice on what special accommodations are available due to the pandemic.


It is amazing how many people complain about not having mass mail-in voting, but seemingly aren't interested in promoting "absentee" voting to a wider audience, isn't it.


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17 Aug 2020, 1:20 pm

USPS Mailboxes Removed in Some New York Area Neighborhoods

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Less than three months before the November presidential election, a national battle is playing out over the future of the U.S. Postal Service and its ability to process mail-in ballots.

Postal worker union members say mailboxes have been removed from locations in the Bronx and mail is piling up as well. At stake, critics fear that mail-in ballots may not arrive in time to be counted in the upcoming election.

Over the weekend, dozens of blue mailboxes were seen discarded behind a post office in the Bronx. The American Postal Workers Union says those boxes removed and held at the Cornell Post Office were not being replaced.

In Trenton, New Jersey, mail was snapped piling up at a sorting facility. And in Morristown, a flatbed truck drew attention for hauling away a number of mailboxes Saturday morning.

The Morristown Mayors office has been informed that a truck has been seen driving throughout town today with several US Postal Service Boxes in its truck bed. Our office has NOT been informed about any scheduled removals, changes or box replacements," read a Facebook post from the Town of Morristown.

Rep. Mikie Sherill (D-NJ) promised an investigation into the removal of boxes, tweeting, "I'm not going to sit by while the USPS -- and essential service -- is systematically dismantled here in NJ and around the country."

Changes to the U.S. Postal Service prompted a dire warning from the president of the NY Metro Area Postal Union.

"Every facility that I represent, the mail is backing up, it's piling up more and more. It's definitely intentional and its going to hurt the American public in the long run," said Jonathan Smith, the union's president.

As accusations intensify that longtime Trump ally, Postmaster General Lewis DeJoy is making it harder for Americans to vote by mail during the pandemic. By eliminating overtime for many workers and deactivating hundreds of mail sorting machines.

For weeks the president has argued without any evidence that voting by mail is subject to widespread fraud.

"Universal mail-in voting is going to be catastrophic. It's going to make our country a laughing stock all over the world," Trump has claimed.

Democrats said delays hurt more than voting.

"It will hurt our seniors, our veterans, others that depend on their medications by mail, their packages, other deliveries. And these delays are also happening across our country," said Rep. Carolyn Maloney (D-NY).

The USPS has promised to stop the removal of any mailboxes until after the election. Still, the local postal union is worried.

"The postal workers do not want to be political. We do not deliver Democratic mail or Republican mail, we deliver all the mail. We just want to do our jobs like we've always done our jobs, and he's taking our ability to serve the American people away," Smith said.


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18 Aug 2020, 2:06 am

Mr Reynholm wrote:
The way you are able to twist logic is truly impressive. Still how does the current voter laws lead to voter suppression? It doesn't, You are unable to think beyond the narrative given to you and are willing to distort the facts to maintain that narrative.


I'm terribly sorry, now that I look again I misread part of what you said. It was not my intent to twist your words or take weird logical leaps.

Laws that disenfranchise felons lower turnout among poorer and non-white voters; the same goes for voter ID laws. Closing polling places in cities also lowers turnout, as the voter to polling location ratio gets too high--although this is more a policy than a law.
Limiting the ability of the government to receive votes by mail during a pandemic is irresponsible. It will lower turnout and cause voters to vote in person for fear that their vote won't be counted by the underfunded usps. This election would already be a big spreader of the virus in better circumstances--curtailing upsp funding will make it worse. It is irresponsible.


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18 Aug 2020, 2:31 am

roronoa79 wrote:
Mr Reynholm wrote:
The way you are able to twist logic is truly impressive. Still how does the current voter laws lead to voter suppression? It doesn't, You are unable to think beyond the narrative given to you and are willing to distort the facts to maintain that narrative.


I'm terribly sorry, now that I look again I misread part of what you said. It was not my intent to twist your words or take weird logical leaps.

Laws that disenfranchise felons lower turnout among poorer and non-white voters; the same goes for voter ID laws. Closing polling places in cities also lowers turnout, as the voter to polling location ratio gets too high--although this is more a policy than a law.
Limiting the ability of the government to receive votes by mail during a pandemic is irresponsible. It will lower turnout and cause voters to vote in person for fear that their vote won't be counted by the underfunded usps. This election would already be a big spreader of the virus in better circumstances--curtailing upsp funding will make it worse. It is irresponsible.


Wouldn't using larger (or more) venues to space voters and staff further apart also work? After all, there would be the same (or less) risk there as there would be in going to the shops.

The "at-risk" would already have access to "absentee" ballots, so this would not be a health issue for them, either, and there is nothing to prevent a state from allowing more leeway on aproving an "absentee" ballot. This way you could still have "mail-in" voting, but it is linked to a voter requesting it, not sending out unsolicited ballots to people who may not even live at the address they are sent to (or still be alive) if the voter rolls are outdated.


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18 Aug 2020, 6:30 pm

Good.

There's no reason not to vote in person, I want to know the results from a presidential election right away. Not have mail trickling in for days. If you're at risk, vote by absentee ballot. If you can riot, loot, shoot, beat, block highways and demonstrate against voting in person, you're good to go.


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18 Aug 2020, 7:34 pm

i will continue to vote by mail no matter what any right winger says.