How the CDC is manipulating data to prop-up vaccine efficacy

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24 May 2021, 11:01 am

Kit Knightly May 18, 2021 wrote:
How the CDC is manipulating data to prop-up “vaccine effectiveness” New policies will artificially deflate “breakthrough infections” in the vaccinated, while the old rules continue to inflate case numbers in the unvaccinated.

Firstly, they are lowering their CT value when testing samples from suspected “breakthrough infections”.

From the CDC’s instructions for state health authorities on handling “possible breakthrough infections” (uploaded to their website in late April):

For cases with a known RT-PCR cycle threshold (Ct) value, submit only specimens with Ct value ≤28 to CDC for sequencing. (Sequencing is not feasible with higher Ct values.)

Throughout the pandemic, CT values in excess of 35 have been the norm, with labs around the world going into the 40s.

Essentially labs were running as many cycles as necessary to achieve a positive result, despite experts warning that this was pointless (even Fauci himself said anything over 35 cycles is meaningless).

But NOW, and only for fully vaccinated people, the CDC will only accept samples achieved from 28 cycles or fewer. That can only be a deliberate decision in order to decrease the number of “breakthrough infections” being officially recorded.

Secondly, asymptomatic or mild infections will no longer be recorded as “covid cases”.

That’s right. Even if a sample collected at the low CT value of 28 can be sequenced into the virus alleged to cause Covid19, the CDC will no longer be keeping records of breakthrough infections that don’t result in hospitalisation or death.

From their website:

As of May 1, 2021, CDC transitioned from monitoring all reported vaccine breakthrough cases to focus on identifying and investigating only hospitalized or fatal cases due to any cause. This shift will help maximize the quality of the data collected on cases of greatest clinical and public health importance. Previous case counts, which were last updated on April 26, 2021, are available for reference only and will not be updated moving forward.

Just like that, being asymptomatic – or having only minor symptoms – will no longer count as a “Covid case” but only if you’ve been vaccinated.

The CDC has put new policies in place which effectively created a tiered system of diagnosis. Meaning, from now on, unvaccinated people will find it much easier to be diagnosed with Covid19 than vaccinated people.

Consider…

Person A has not been vaccinated. They test positive for Covid using a PCR test at 40 cycles and, despite having no symptoms, they are officially a “covid case”.

Person B has been vaccinated. They test positive at 28 cycles, and spend six weeks bedridden with a high fever. Because they never went into a hospital and didn’t die they are NOT a Covid case.

Person C, who was also vaccinated, did die. After weeks in hospital with a high fever and respiratory problems. Only their positive PCR test was 29 cycles, so they’re not officially a Covid case either.

The CDC is demonstrating the beauty of having a “disease” that can appear or disappear depending on how you measure it.

To be clear: If these new policies had been the global approach to “Covid” since December 2019, there would never have been a pandemic at all.

If you apply them only to the vaccinated, but keep the old rules for the unvaccinated, the only possible result can be that the official records show “Covid” is much more prevalent among the latter than the former.

This is a policy designed to continuously inflate one number, and systematically minimise the other.

What is that if not an obvious and deliberate act of deception?



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24 May 2021, 12:08 pm

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24 May 2021, 12:13 pm

well then Ill go post the Kit Knightly article I was closeting... it is much less technical, so any problems should be obvious to all, whereas this thread takes some study.

haha OP, were both 52 and joined in late '11 :skull:

I dont spend that much time at Off G, but the only problem I have found so far is a potential Putin bot.

Hey that potential Putin Bot article is in my closet too :mrgreen:



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24 May 2021, 1:14 pm

If you don't want to take the vaccine, don't take the vaccine....

Your loss.



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24 May 2021, 3:41 pm

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25 May 2021, 1:49 am

kraftiekortie wrote:
If you don't want to take the vaccine, don't take the vaccine....

Your loss.

Actually everyone's loss, because we never reach herd immunity and the virus mutates until a vaccine-resistant breakthrough strand takes over. This is a global problem. It will never go away if people keep being petty and refusing to cooperate.



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31 May 2021, 10:28 am

NoClearMind53 wrote:
kraftiekortie wrote:
If you don't want to take the vaccine, don't take the vaccine....

Your loss.

Actually everyone's loss, because we never reach herd immunity and the virus mutates until a vaccine-resistant breakthrough strand takes over. This is a global problem. It will never go away if people keep being petty and refusing to cooperate.


he was talking to me right? if you are going to call me petty [please] do it to my face

or better yet, lets put the moral fascism aside and talk facts and stats:

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01 Jun 2021, 6:10 am

The CDC seems to have a remarkably long reach - vaccines appear to be successful everywhere, not just America.


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01 Jun 2021, 9:43 am

NoClearMind53 wrote:
kraftiekortie wrote:
If you don't want to take the vaccine, don't take the vaccine....

Your loss.

Actually everyone's loss, because we never reach herd immunity and the virus mutates until a vaccine-resistant breakthrough strand takes over. This is a global problem. It will never go away if people keep being petty and refusing to cooperate.

Are there resurgent outbreaks of mutated polio, and small pox?



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01 Jun 2021, 9:52 am

Mr Reynholm wrote:
NoClearMind53 wrote:
kraftiekortie wrote:
If you don't want to take the vaccine, don't take the vaccine....

Your loss.

Actually everyone's loss, because we never reach herd immunity and the virus mutates until a vaccine-resistant breakthrough strand takes over. This is a global problem. It will never go away if people keep being petty and refusing to cooperate.

Are there resurgent outbreaks of mutated polio, and small pox?

Or how about flu, which is more akin to Covid-19?



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01 Jun 2021, 9:55 am

We have to take flu boosters every year because the flu virus mutates rapidly.



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01 Jun 2021, 10:08 am

This "Kit Knightly May" person seems to get around to all of the tabloids, and seems to have an interest in just about every popular conspiracy theory out there.

"Kit Knightly May" also seems to be a pseudonym ... what is he hiding?


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01 Jun 2021, 10:11 am

The CDC is part of the government and should be trusted about as much as the rest of the government.



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01 Jun 2021, 10:17 am

Conspiracy theorists are part of an ignorant, uneducated sub-culture, and should be trusted as such.


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01 Jun 2021, 10:26 am

If you trust any institution or any individual to the point you believe everything they say, they're going to let you down eventually and you're going to look silly. This is one of the few things that is guaranteed in life.



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01 Jun 2021, 10:42 am

lostproperty wrote:
If you trust any institution or any individual to the point you believe everything they say, they're going to let you down eventually and you're going to look silly. This is one of the few things that is guaranteed in life.
Trust ... but verify.


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