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22 Oct 2021, 12:16 am

Outspoken conservative political commentator Candace Owens has suggested the US military invade Australia in order to free its people “suffering under a totalitarian regime” while drawing comparisons to Hitler, Stalin and the Taliban.

Owens made the comments on her self-titled Daily Wire TV show earlier this week, declaring Covid-19 had propelled the planet into an “ideological and psychological” global war.

“When do we deploy troops to Australia? When do we invade Australia and free an oppressed people who are suffering under a totalitarian regime? When do we spend trillions of dollars to spread democracy in Australia?” she asked.

While US rightwing commentators are keen to portray Australians suffering under tyranny, the public health measures adopted by federal, state and territory governments have been overwhelmingly supported by the Australian population.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/ ... sed-people



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22 Oct 2021, 12:46 am

Well...

If they discover oil in Australia....THEN...the US will find a reason to FREE you folks! :lol:

Sorry Candace. No oil. No go.



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22 Oct 2021, 12:59 am

Eh, we'll take Canada first, they actually have oil, though I think Australia might have some minerals we want, and it would make a nice strategic airfield if we ever seriously get into it with the Chinese.


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22 Oct 2021, 1:28 am

naturalplastic wrote:
Well...

If they discover oil in Australia....THEN...the US will find a reason to FREE you folks! :lol:

Sorry Candace. No oil. No go.


Does this help?
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The term oil encompasses the range of liquid hydrocarbons and includes crude oil and condensate:

Crude oil is a naturally-occurring liquid consisting mainly of hydrocarbons derived from the thermal and chemical alteration of organic matter buried in sedimentary basins. It is formed as organic-rich rocks are buried and heated over geological time.
Condensate is a liquid mixture of pentane and heavier hydrocarbons found in oil fields with associated gas or in gas fields. It is a gas in the subsurface reservoir, but condenses to form a liquid when produced and brought to the surface.

Australia has about 0.3 per cent of the world oil reserves. Most of Australia’s known remaining oil resources are condensate and liquefied petroleum gas (LPG) associated with giant offshore gas fields in the Browse, Carnarvon and Bonaparte basins. In addition oil resources are identified in the Perth, Canning, Amadeus, Cooper/Eromanga, Bowen/Surat, Otway, Bass and Gippsland basins.

Source: https://www.ga.gov.au/scientific-topics/energy/resources/petroleum-resources/oil



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22 Oct 2021, 2:11 am

cyberdad wrote:
Outspoken conservative political commentator Candace Owens has suggested the US military invade Australia in order to free its people “suffering under a totalitarian regime” while drawing comparisons to Hitler, Stalin and the Taliban.

Owens made the comments on her self-titled Daily Wire TV show earlier this week, declaring Covid-19 had propelled the planet into an “ideological and psychological” global war.

“When do we deploy troops to Australia? When do we invade Australia and free an oppressed people who are suffering under a totalitarian regime? When do we spend trillions of dollars to spread democracy in Australia?” she asked.

While US rightwing commentators are keen to portray Australians suffering under tyranny, the public health measures adopted by federal, state and territory governments have been overwhelmingly supported by the Australian population.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/ ... sed-people


I'm all for it!
Chairman/Dictator Dan, in the Socialist State of Victoria, needs to be overthrown!

Bring back democracy! :mrgreen:



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22 Oct 2021, 2:14 am

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Well...

If they discover oil in Australia....THEN...the US will find a reason to FREE you folks! :lol:

Sorry Candace. No oil. No go.


We have a hell of a lot of unmined natural gas because of the moratorium.

Good enough? :scratch:



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22 Oct 2021, 2:16 am

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Eh, we'll take Canada first, they actually have oil, though I think Australia might have some minerals we want, and it would make a nice strategic airfield if we ever seriously get into it with the Chinese.


The Chinese are well aware of this, hence their desire to take over Australia.



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22 Oct 2021, 2:34 am

It's interesting given Candace is planning to run for president in 2024
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/candac ... -president

I doubt she'd be elected but she'd be a serious contender for vice president under a 2nd Trump term of office. Should Australians be worried?



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22 Oct 2021, 7:42 pm

Pepe wrote:
naturalgas wrote:
Well...

If they discover oil in Australia....THEN...the US will find a reason to FREE you folks! :lol:

Sorry Candace. No oil. No go.


We have a hell of a lot of unmined natural gas because of the moratorium.

Good enough? :scratch:


Sounds good.

Well...just manufacture ...er...I mean....FIND...some evidence that your governor of Victoria is...hiding WMDs...we will come storming your beaches. :D



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22 Oct 2021, 7:46 pm

naturalplastic wrote:
Pepe wrote:
naturalgas wrote:
Well...

If they discover oil in Australia....THEN...the US will find a reason to FREE you folks! :lol:

Sorry Candace. No oil. No go.


We have a hell of a lot of unmined natural gas because of the moratorium.

Good enough? :scratch:


Sounds good.

Well...just manufacture ...er...I mean....FIND...some evidence that your governor of Victoria is...hiding WMDs...we will come storming your beaches. :D


Would you prefer if we shipped him over with them to you in a crate with straw and air holes? :scratch: :mrgreen:



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22 Oct 2021, 7:55 pm

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While US rightwing commentators are keen to portray Australians suffering under tyranny, the public health measures adopted by federal, state and territory governments have been overwhelmingly supported by the Australian population.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/ ... sed-people


Didn't you know that the US right wing generally doesn't trust any polls except their own? And that it wouldn't matter how much evidence there was on the prevailing local opinion, as long as there was anyone shouting tyranny?

I'm not even being ironic. I can't remember ever being able to convince a conservative debate opponent that they hold a minority opinion regardless of how much I show them. When they do know their position is unpopular, its often - in their opinion - only because everyone else is brainwashed. I must say, the right way has concocted the perfect propaganda machine.


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22 Oct 2021, 7:57 pm

DW_a_mom wrote:
cyberdad wrote:

While US rightwing commentators are keen to portray Australians suffering under tyranny, the public health measures adopted by federal, state and territory governments have been overwhelmingly supported by the Australian population.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/ ... sed-people


Didn't you know that the US right wing doesn't trust any polls except their own? And that it wouldn't matter how much evidence there was on the prevailing local opinion, as long as there was anyone shouting tyranny?

I'm not even being ironic. I can't remember ever being able to convince a conservative debate opponent that they hold a minority opinion regardless of how much I show them. When they do know their position is unpopular, its only because everyone else is brainwashed. I must say, the right way has concocted the perfect propaganda machine.


It seems to be how they protect themselves from realizing they're a shrinking minority trying to impose their preferences on the majority.


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22 Oct 2021, 8:01 pm

funeralxempire wrote:
DW_a_mom wrote:
cyberdad wrote:

While US rightwing commentators are keen to portray Australians suffering under tyranny, the public health measures adopted by federal, state and territory governments have been overwhelmingly supported by the Australian population.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/ ... sed-people


Didn't you know that the US right wing generally doesn't trust any polls except their own? And that it wouldn't matter how much evidence there was on the prevailing local opinion, as long as there was anyone shouting tyranny?

I'm not even being ironic. I can't remember ever being able to convince a conservative debate opponent that they hold a minority opinion regardless of how much I show them. When they do know their position is unpopular, its often - in their opinion - only because everyone else is brainwashed. I must say, the right way has concocted the perfect propaganda machine.


It seems to be how they protect themselves from realizing they're a shrinking minority trying to impose their preferences on the majority.


Put that together with voting suppression measures hidden as voter reform, and you have a segment that is determined to hold and exert power with minimal worrying about actually selling it to anyone. Key leadership knows what its doing, I am confident of that, but that so many fall for it is quite distressing to me.

American Democracy is in more danger than most of us are willing to recognize. What I don't have a clue about is what to actually do. I'm just holding onto the hope that our checks and balances can keep the worst of the problems in check. We've recovered from outright constitutional disasters before, so hopefully can get past the peril.

Meanwhile, sorry to see Australia being used as a propaganda football.


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22 Oct 2021, 8:17 pm

DW_a_mom wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
DW_a_mom wrote:
cyberdad wrote:

While US rightwing commentators are keen to portray Australians suffering under tyranny, the public health measures adopted by federal, state and territory governments have been overwhelmingly supported by the Australian population.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/ ... sed-people


Didn't you know that the US right wing generally doesn't trust any polls except their own? And that it wouldn't matter how much evidence there was on the prevailing local opinion, as long as there was anyone shouting tyranny?

I'm not even being ironic. I can't remember ever being able to convince a conservative debate opponent that they hold a minority opinion regardless of how much I show them. When they do know their position is unpopular, its often - in their opinion - only because everyone else is brainwashed. I must say, the right way has concocted the perfect propaganda machine.


It seems to be how they protect themselves from realizing they're a shrinking minority trying to impose their preferences on the majority.


Put that together with voting suppression measures hidden as voter reform, and you have a segment that is determined to hold and exert power with minimal worrying about actually selling it to anyone. Key leadership knows what its doing, I am confident of that, but that so many fall for it is quite distressing to me.

American Democracy is in more danger than most of us are willing to recognize. What I don't have a clue about is what to actually do. I'm just holding onto the hope that our checks and balances can keep the worst of the problems in check. We've recovered from outright constitutional disasters before, so hopefully can get past the peril.

Meanwhile, sorry to see Australia being used as a propaganda football.


To be fair, Candace Owens isn't exactly a serious commentator. She's a perennial also-ran who's just looking to draw more eyeballs to herself by spewing guano. I don't think her opinion here is going to resonate because I'm not even sure she seriously believes it.


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22 Oct 2021, 8:26 pm

funeralxempire wrote:
DW_a_mom wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
DW_a_mom wrote:
cyberdad wrote:

While US rightwing commentators are keen to portray Australians suffering under tyranny, the public health measures adopted by federal, state and territory governments have been overwhelmingly supported by the Australian population.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/ ... sed-people


Didn't you know that the US right wing generally doesn't trust any polls except their own? And that it wouldn't matter how much evidence there was on the prevailing local opinion, as long as there was anyone shouting tyranny?

I'm not even being ironic. I can't remember ever being able to convince a conservative debate opponent that they hold a minority opinion regardless of how much I show them. When they do know their position is unpopular, its often - in their opinion - only because everyone else is brainwashed. I must say, the right way has concocted the perfect propaganda machine.


It seems to be how they protect themselves from realizing they're a shrinking minority trying to impose their preferences on the majority.


Put that together with voting suppression measures hidden as voter reform, and you have a segment that is determined to hold and exert power with minimal worrying about actually selling it to anyone. Key leadership knows what its doing, I am confident of that, but that so many fall for it is quite distressing to me.

American Democracy is in more danger than most of us are willing to recognize. What I don't have a clue about is what to actually do. I'm just holding onto the hope that our checks and balances can keep the worst of the problems in check. We've recovered from outright constitutional disasters before, so hopefully can get past the peril.

Meanwhile, sorry to see Australia being used as a propaganda football.


To be fair, Candace Owens isn't exactly a serious commentator. She's a perennial also-ran who's just looking to draw more eyeballs to herself by spewing guano. I don't think her opinion here is going to resonate because I'm not even sure she seriously believes it.


I did move quite a bit beyond the current situation, using your comment to my comment on her comment more as a jumping off point for some distantly related observations I've had.


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22 Oct 2021, 8:44 pm

DW_a_mom wrote:
Didn't you know that the US right wing generally doesn't trust any polls except their own? And that it wouldn't matter how much evidence there was on the prevailing local opinion, as long as there was anyone shouting tyranny?

I'm not even being ironic. I can't remember ever being able to convince a conservative debate opponent that they hold a minority opinion regardless of how much I show them. When they do know their position is unpopular, its often - in their opinion - only because everyone else is brainwashed. I must say, the right way has concocted the perfect propaganda machine.


You say all that as if it's unique to the right, when it's just less subtle on that side. Have you ever seen me convince a liberal of anything even when what we're arguing about is on video and it's obvious they're incorrect?


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