[ UK ] Anti-vaxxer 'Army' threatens vaccine centres.

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10 Jan 2022, 11:29 am

Alpha Men Assemble, is threatening to target vaccine centres, schools and the police.  The volunteers associated with the group have been drilled by former members of the Armed Forces.  Around 100 activists were urged to hit vaccine centres, schools, headteachers, colleges, councillors and directors of public health in every area.  Army veterans are training scores of volunteers on marching formations and kickboxing to ensure volunteers are professionally prepared for direct action.

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10 Jan 2022, 11:34 am

Well, I guess abstaining from the vaccines doesn't make them *too* sick, since they have energy to do all that, LOL.



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10 Jan 2022, 11:53 am

Threatening medical workers and their patients with violence IS sick.  If those "Alpha Men" do not want the vaccine, then so be it.  They should not threaten violence against those who want to be vaccinated against the coronavirus.



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10 Jan 2022, 1:04 pm

Fnord wrote:
Threatening medical workers and their patients with violence IS sick.


I mean they aren't covid-sick, at least not too covid-sick. If they had severe covid they wouldn't have energy to do all that. Which is kinda ironic because the whole point is that without vaccine they are supposedly having covid yet here they are with all their energy.



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10 Jan 2022, 2:22 pm

QFT wrote:
Fnord wrote:
Threatening medical workers and their patients with violence IS sick.
I mean they aren't covid-sick, at least not too covid-sick. If they had severe covid they wouldn't have energy to do all that. Which is kinda ironic because the whole point is that without vaccine they are supposedly having covid yet here they are with all their energy.
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10 Jan 2022, 4:21 pm

The monkey brigade are up to their usual tricks again I see.



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11 Jan 2022, 8:34 pm

Most anti-vaxxers don't want to take away people's choice to have a vaccine, though some do. It's more the fact that when they see people promoting authoritarianism, they fear that authority will envelope them.



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11 Jan 2022, 9:06 pm

Apparently the UK football hooligans are bored...


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11 Jan 2022, 9:21 pm

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Apparently the UK football hooligans are bored...


I have a soft spot for football hooligans. At least they have passion & are not dead-inside zombies.

If you can tame their brutishness they are a lot nicer than regular people in many cases.



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11 Jan 2022, 9:25 pm

Fnord wrote:
Threatening medical workers and their patients with violence IS sick.  If those "Alpha Men" do not want the vaccine, then so be it.  They should not threaten violence against those who want to be vaccinated against the coronavirus.


We had some of these scum attack two young mothers with two small children having a picnic in a park because the mother and girls were wearing a mask. They even sicked a dog onto the children and a good samaritan. Alas they crept away before police could do anything.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... niers.html

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11 Jan 2022, 10:00 pm

cyberdad wrote:
Fnord wrote:
Threatening medical workers and their patients with violence IS sick.  If those "Alpha Men" do not want the vaccine, then so be it.  They should not threaten violence against those who want to be vaccinated against the coronavirus.


We had some of these scum attack two young mothers with two small children having a picnic in a park because the mother and girls were wearing a mask. They even sicked a dog onto the children and a good samaritan. Alas they crept away before police could do anything.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... niers.html

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11 Jan 2022, 11:58 pm

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Most anti-vaxxers don't want to take away people's choice to have a vaccine, though some do. It's more the fact that when they see people promoting authoritarianism, they fear that authority will envelope them.


Offering vaccinations - even mandating them - isn't about authoritarianism, it's about keeping as many people safe as possible. This is just another example of insane idiocy Trump has inspired in his cult.


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12 Jan 2022, 2:56 am

I plan on walking into a vaccination center dressed as a buffalo to disrupt things.



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12 Jan 2022, 3:26 am

There was an anti-vaxx buffoon in Bergen, Norway who took down the signs to a test center there. Luckily he was caught but unfortunately only charged with vandalism. it should be treated as a public health issue

In Denmark they have booked vaccine appointments and not shown up/ cancelled at the last minute, just to prevent others from getting their shot.

A group of 6 of these nutters plotted to kill a German politician
https://edition.cnn.com/2021/12/15/euro ... index.html

They are a threat (which isn't too surprising as their entire 'belief' is conspiracy and superstition, not exactly the signs of a healthy mind) and authorities need to keep a close eye on them

blitzkrieg wrote:
Most anti-vaxxers don't want to take away people's choice to have a vaccine, though some do. It's more the fact that when they see people promoting authoritarianism, they fear that authority will envelope them.

All this nonsense about life-saving measures being authoritarian, just shows how far removed from reality these people are. It's just making a mockery of all the people who have died/ been seriously ill/ contracted long covid/ lost loved ones to covid. It is also making a mockery of all the people who are suffering in countries that actually are authoritarian. These whiners just need to grow the f up.


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12 Jan 2022, 3:31 am

Kraichgauer wrote:
blitzkrieg wrote:
Most anti-vaxxers don't want to take away people's choice to have a vaccine, though some do. It's more the fact that when they see people promoting authoritarianism, they fear that authority will envelope them.


Offering vaccinations - even mandating them - isn't about authoritarianism, it's about keeping as many people safe as possible. This is just another example of insane idiocy Trump has inspired in his cult.


Mandating anything is by definition, authoritarianism & is a coercive measure.

Imagine the uproar if the delivery of a baby after becoming pregnant as a biological woman, was mandated.

Imagine a United States or a United Kingdom, where abortion clinics were all closed - every last one of them & biological women had to start having abortions in an underground economy, frozen out of the mainstream, like they have done in decades gone by.

Would that not be unfair? Persons not vaccinated are being discriminated against, right now. - and it has been happening since the coercive policy of mass vaccination for adults has begun.

The end does not justify the means if you have to take freedom away to reach the end (which happens to be authoritarianism).



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12 Jan 2022, 5:24 am

blitzkrieg wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
blitzkrieg wrote:
Most anti-vaxxers don't want to take away people's choice to have a vaccine, though some do. It's more the fact that when they see people promoting authoritarianism, they fear that authority will envelope them.


Offering vaccinations - even mandating them - isn't about authoritarianism, it's about keeping as many people safe as possible. This is just another example of insane idiocy Trump has inspired in his cult.


Mandating anything is by definition, authoritarianism & is a coercive measure.

Imagine the uproar if the delivery of a baby after becoming pregnant as a biological woman, was mandated.

Imagine a United States or a United Kingdom, where abortion clinics were all closed - every last one of them & biological women had to start having abortions in an underground economy, frozen out of the mainstream, like they have done in decades gone by.

Would that not be unfair? Persons not vaccinated are being discriminated against, right now. - and it has been happening since the coercive policy of mass vaccination for adults has begun.

The end does not justify the means if you have to take freedom away to reach the end (which happens to be authoritarianism).


Having an abortion or not doesn't put anyone else' life in danger. Refusing to get vaccinated, or even refusing to just wear a mask, can cause Covid to spread to someone who it might kill. It's not authoritarian to protect people's lives. Is it authoritarian to require people to wear safety belts, or to wear motorcycle helmets? Or to require drivers be licensed? Or to make it a crime to drive drunk?


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