F.B.I. Raids Trump's Mar-a-Lago estate

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10 Aug 2022, 1:46 am

Here's a theory from one of Trump's ghost writers who wrote "his books" about what Trump might have been planning to do with those stolen documents:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/author-helpe ... 56880.html


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10 Aug 2022, 1:50 am


The unfairnessof the justice system is so obvious at this point.
Smells more and more like they're extremely afraid of him running again. So afraid that they're willing to completely break rules in the open.



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10 Aug 2022, 2:03 am

Kraichgauer wrote:
Matrix Glitch wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Matrix Glitch wrote:
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Here's a little bit of crazy from the right side of the aisle:

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/gop ... 28680.html


The right repeating the cry of the left to defund law enforcement is crazy when they're the ones saying it.


I'm glad we agree. 8)


That the left is displaying total hypocrisy, yep.


No, that the right is crazy for mimicking elements on the far left who had wanted to defund law enforcement.
This was hardly the first time the far right had taken an anti-police position. The ATF and FBI became jack-booted-thugs, at Ruby Ridge and Waco, according to the right, making extremists in either location out to be just patriots or religious people rather than racist fanatics and cultists who had broken the law. Or how the the most extreme congressional Republicans had taken the side of the January 6 rioters over the police they had attacked, even going as far as voting against recognizing those DC police officers' courage.

Sounds like equal ground.



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10 Aug 2022, 2:41 am

^^^
Yes, it is. I just think it's extremely disingenuous of the Republicans to take an anti-law enforcement stance after their blue-lives- matter spiel when law enforcement cracks down on them or their base, no matter how justifiable law enforcement might be.


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10 Aug 2022, 2:43 am

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The unfairnessof the justice system is so obvious at this point.
Smells more and more like they're extremely afraid of him running again. So afraid that they're willing to completely break rules in the open.


Hm. Goes to show you can't judge a book by its cover. I'd have taken him for one of my more extreme brethren on the left.


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10 Aug 2022, 3:10 am

Matrix Glitch wrote:
DW_a_mom wrote:
Matrix Glitch wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Here's a little bit of crazy from the right side of the aisle:

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/gop ... 28680.html


The right repeating the cry of the left to defund law enforcement is crazy when they're the ones saying it.


Sigh. We're really off into the unproductive side of what is happening.

The FBI has made some mistakes recently. Fact. Whether that means they should restructure (which is what liberals mean when they say "defund" the police) or ??? is up for debate.

But the warrant at issue involved more than the FBI. It also involved the DOJ, and sign offs included both a Trump and a Biden appointee. Bipartisan.

I just listened to a discussion of the warrant on the Dispatch podcast, and they noted a few things, and hopefully I am summarizing accurately:

1. They had to prove more likely than not for a crime to get the warrant.
2. Matters of information security are taken VERY seriously by the FBI and DOJ, and Trump is hardly the first high ranking official to get into the FBI or DOJ cross hairs over a potential slip up. The FBI has Hilary's servers, for example; difference being she voluntarily turned them over. Other recent investigations and/or prosecutions include Patraeus, an Obama official I'm forgetting the name of ...
3. Seizure does not guarantee prosecution.
4. High ranking officials always seem to consistently get away with less consequences on these breaches than the rank and file.
5. A search warrant is defined by location, not person. It is entirely possible this has nothing at all to do with Trump.
6. Trump has a copy of warrant in his hands that says what they were looking for and he is free to share that with the world - but has not.

Last night heard a retired high ranking FBI official say it was out of line.


Maybe it was, maybe it wasn't. If he's retired, he doesn't have all the information, and even if he did (which he doesn't), there is very little in this world one will ever find universal agreement on. So ... they found someone who disagreed. Not definitive.

Don't forget that this is not the first time the FBI has gone after classified information that may be improperly handled by a high ranking official or former official. People keep acting like this was unique to Trump. It isn't. How quickly we forget.

What IS unique is that, as president, Trump had the ability, up through the last day of his presidency, to declassify whatever documents he wished. I'm hearing some lawyers surprised he isn't making the claim he did exactly that.


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10 Aug 2022, 3:25 am

Kraichgauer wrote:
^^^
Yes, it is. I just think it's extremely disingenuous of the Republicans to take an anti-law enforcement stance after their blue-lives- matter spiel when law enforcement cracks down on them or their base, no matter how justifiable law enforcement might be.

Both sides have acted ridiculously. But I know you're hyper-partisan.



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10 Aug 2022, 3:27 am

DW_a_mom wrote:
Matrix Glitch wrote:
DW_a_mom wrote:
Matrix Glitch wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Here's a little bit of crazy from the right side of the aisle:

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/gop ... 28680.html


The right repeating the cry of the left to defund law enforcement is crazy when they're the ones saying it.


Sigh. We're really off into the unproductive side of what is happening.

The FBI has made some mistakes recently. Fact. Whether that means they should restructure (which is what liberals mean when they say "defund" the police) or ??? is up for debate.

But the warrant at issue involved more than the FBI. It also involved the DOJ, and sign offs included both a Trump and a Biden appointee. Bipartisan.

I just listened to a discussion of the warrant on the Dispatch podcast, and they noted a few things, and hopefully I am summarizing accurately:

1. They had to prove more likely than not for a crime to get the warrant.
2. Matters of information security are taken VERY seriously by the FBI and DOJ, and Trump is hardly the first high ranking official to get into the FBI or DOJ cross hairs over a potential slip up. The FBI has Hilary's servers, for example; difference being she voluntarily turned them over. Other recent investigations and/or prosecutions include Patraeus, an Obama official I'm forgetting the name of ...
3. Seizure does not guarantee prosecution.
4. High ranking officials always seem to consistently get away with less consequences on these breaches than the rank and file.
5. A search warrant is defined by location, not person. It is entirely possible this has nothing at all to do with Trump.
6. Trump has a copy of warrant in his hands that says what they were looking for and he is free to share that with the world - but has not.

Last night heard a retired high ranking FBI official say it was out of line.


Maybe it was, maybe it wasn't. If he's retired, he doesn't have all the information, and even if he did (which he doesn't), there is very little in this world one will ever find universal agreement on. So ... they found someone who disagreed. Not definitive.

Don't forget that this is not the first time the FBI has gone after classified information that may be improperly handled by a high ranking official or former official. People keep acting like this was unique to Trump. It isn't. How quickly we forget.

What IS unique is that, as president, Trump had the ability, up through the last day of his presidency, to declassify whatever documents he wished. I'm hearing some lawyers surprised he isn't making the claim he did exactly that.

You lost me after maybe it was, maybe it wasn't.



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10 Aug 2022, 6:53 am

FBI searched Melania’s wardrobe, spent hours in Trump’s private office during Mar-a-Lago raid

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FBI agents scoured Melania Trump’s wardrobe and spent several hours combing through Donald Trump’s private office, breaking open his safe and rifling through drawers when they raided the former First Family’s Mar-a-Lago home in Florida Monday morning.

The Post has learned that the search warrant used by the FBI to enter the palatial Palm Beach property focused solely on presidential records and evidence of classified information being stored there.

A source close to the former president expressed concern that FBI agents or DOJ lawyers conducting the search could have “planted stuff” because they would not allow Trump’s attorneys inside the 128-room building to observe the operation, which lasted more than nine hours.

The raid by over 30 plain clothes agents from the Southern District of Florida and the FBI’s Washington Field Office extended through the Trump family’s entire 3,000-square-foot private quarters, as well as to a separate office and safe, and a locked basement storage room in which 15 cardboard boxes of material from the White House were stored.

Feds arrived at 9 a.m. and didn’t leave until 6:30 p.m.

An eyewitness to the raid said all of the boxes were confiscated by federal agents Monday, but it is unknown if anything else was taken as no itemized list of items was provided by

The boxes contain documents and mementos from Trump’s presidency, reportedly including letters from Barack Obama and Kim Jong Un, and other correspondence with world leaders.

A legal source said that the boxes had been packed up by the General Services Administration and shipped to Mar-a-Lago when Trump left office in January 2020.

Trump’s attorneys, led by Evan Corcoran, had been cooperating fully with federal authorities on the return of the documents to the National Archives and Records Administration, according to sources.


Judge who OK’d Mar-a-Lago raid Obama donor once linked to Jeffrey Epstein
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The Florida federal magistrate judge who signed off on a search warrant authorizing the FBI raid of former President Donald Trump’s Mar-a-Lago resort donated to Barack Obama’s 2008 presidential campaign — months after he left the local US Attorney’s office to rep employees of convicted pedophile Jeffrey Epstein who had received immunity in the long-running sex-trafficking investigation of the financier.

Sources tell The Post that Judge Bruce Reinhart approved the warrant that enabled federal agents to converge on the palatial South Florida estate on Monday in what Trump called an “unannounced raid on my home.”

Reinhart was elevated to magistrate judge in March 2018 after 10 years in private practice. That November, the Miami Herald reported that he had represented several of Epstein’s employees — including, by Reinhart’s own admission to the outlet, Epstein’s pilots; his scheduler, Sarah Kellen; and Nadia Marcinkova, who Epstein once reportedly described as his “Yugoslavian sex slave.”

Kellen and Marcinkova were among Epstein’s lieutenants who were granted immunity as part of a controversial 2007 deal with federal prosecutors that allowed the pervert to plead guilty to state charges rather than federal crimes. Epstein wound up serving just 13 months in county jail and was granted work release.

According to the Herald, which cited court documents, Reinhart resigned from the South Florida US Attorney’s Office effective on New Year’s Day 2008 and went to work for Epstein’s cohorts the following day.

Ten months after starting work for Epstein’s co-conspirators, according to Federal Election Commission records, Reinhart gave $1,000 directly to the Obama campaign and another $1,000 to its fundraising arm, the Obama Victory Fund. Though the records show the judge made mostly small-dollar donations to his law firm’s political action committee in subsequent years, Reinhart also donated $500 to Jeb Bush’s 2016 presidential campaign in November 2015.

Reinhart was later named in a civil lawsuit by two of Epstein’s victims that accused him of violating Justice Department policies by switching sides in the middle of the Epstein investigation, suggesting he had spilled inside information about the probe to build favor with the notorious defendant, the Herald reported in 2018.

In a 2011 affidavit, Reinhart denied he had done anything improper and insisted that since he was not involved in the federal investigation of Epstein, he was not privy to inside information about the case.

However, in a 2013 court filing, Reinhart’s former colleagues contradicted him, saying that he had “learned confidential, non-public information about the Epstein matter” while employed by the US Attorney’s Office. Reinhart noted to the Herald in response that a complaint filed against him by a lawyer for Epstein’s victims had been dismissed by the Justice Department.

As recently as January of 2015, Reinhart was asked to appear on right-wing channel Newsmax to give analysis of the Epstein fallout — but declined to publicly note his own role in the case.

Before entering private practice in 2008, Reinhart spent 12 years as a federal prosecutor. According to an official biography circulated at the time he was hired as a magistrate judge, Reinhart “managed a docket that covered the full spectrum of federal crimes, including narcotics, violent crimes, public corruption, financial frauds, child pornography and immigration.


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10 Aug 2022, 7:56 am

If J. Edgar had been there he would have tried on Melania's stuff.



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10 Aug 2022, 8:05 am

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If J. Edgar had been there he would have tried on Melania's stuff.


:lol: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:


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10 Aug 2022, 8:36 am

Mr. Trump is likely to express his outrage over the legal F.B.I. raid during his deposition today . . .

Former President Donald Trump will be questioned under oath Wednesday (2022-08-10) in the New York attorney general’s long-running civil investigation into his dealings as a real estate mogul.

The New York civil investigation, led by Attorney General Letitia James, involves allegations that Trump’s company, the Trump Organization, misstated the value of prized assets like golf courses and skyscrapers, misleading lenders and tax authorities.

The Trump Organization exaggerated the value of its holdings to impress lenders or misstated what land was worth to slash its tax burden, according to annual financial statements given to banks to secure favorable loan terms and to financial magazines to justify Trump’s place among the world’s billionaires.

The company even exaggerated the size of Trump’s Manhattan penthouse, saying it was nearly three times its actual size -- a difference in value of about $200 million.

As vociferous as Trump has been in defending himself in written statements and on the rally stage, legal experts say the same strategy could backfire in a deposition setting because anything he says could potentially be used against him or his company in the criminal investigation.


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10 Aug 2022, 11:13 am

Trump plead the 5th.



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10 Aug 2022, 11:19 am

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Trump plead the 5th.


Trump said: “So there are five people taking the Fifth Amendment. Like you see on the mob, right? You see the mob takes the Fifth. If you’re innocent why are you taking the Fifth Amendment?”

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump ... amendment/


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10 Aug 2022, 11:26 am

“The mob takes the Fifth.” -- DJT

“If you’re innocent, why are you taking the Fifth Amendment.” -- DJT

“Taking the Fifth, I think it’s disgraceful.” -- DJT



Former President Donald Trump on Wednesday said he refused to answer questions at a deposition by investigators for the New York attorney general as part of a civil investigation into his business.

Trump made that announcement shortly after he arrived for his scheduled interview under oath at the offices of AG Letitia James in New York City.

“I once asked, ‘If you’re innocent, why are you taking the Fifth Amendment?’ Now I know the answer to that question,” Trump said in a furious statement that railed against James as a renegade prosecutor with a vendetta against him.

“When your family, your company, and all the people in your orbit have become the targets of an unfounded, politically motivated Witch Hunt supported by lawyers, prosecutors, and the Fake News Media, you have no choice,” Trump said.

“Accordingly, under the advice of my counsel and for all of the above reasons, I declined to answer the questions under the rights and privileges afforded to every citizen under the United States Constitution,” he said.

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/08/10/tru...e ... iness.html