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11 Aug 2022, 12:15 am

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Trump violated every value of the Republican party so obviously you dont mean GOP vs Democrats.

There is a cult of mostly, but not entirely, one time Republicans, who have sold their souls, and their GOP values, to the Devil in order to join the cult of Trump. That is true. But I wouldnt call that cult a 'side'.

If that were true then there would be no reason to worry about Trump being reelected. But you stated in another thread the reason why Trump must be talked about 24/7 and brought into every conversation, is to fight against him being reelected. So which is it? A smallish cult, or more than half of American voters?


It is a mistake, in my opinion, to think of Trump as a Republican. He gets the party support because of promises he makes in trade, but he isn't actually a conservative.

His appeal crosses party lines for reasons that don't fit our party boxes. Its like a cult from my view.

Usually cults are small. They usually represent a fringe of society. If only Trump's cult would vote for him, then there's no chance he'd be reelected. It's either that or over half of American voters belong to a cult.



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11 Aug 2022, 1:13 am

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It is a mistake, in my opinion, to think of Trump as a Republican. He gets the party support because of promises he makes in trade, but he isn't actually a conservative.

His appeal crosses party lines for reasons that don't fit our party boxes. Its like a cult from my view.


I'll give you a piece of information that a lot of Democrats seem to have trouble truly understanding; there's a huge pool of voters out there who aren't conservative per se, but are anti-left, and Trump taps into that by being the living embodiment of a middle finger to the left. It's not a cult, the left just sucks so much that a big chunk of the electorate is willing to tolerate an obviously incompetent grifter if he sticks it to them with sufficient vigor and attitude.


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11 Aug 2022, 1:17 am

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It is a mistake, in my opinion, to think of Trump as a Republican. He gets the party support because of promises he makes in trade, but he isn't actually a conservative.

His appeal crosses party lines for reasons that don't fit our party boxes. Its like a cult from my view.


I'll give you a piece of information that a lot of Democrats seem to have trouble truly understanding; there's a huge pool of voters out there who aren't conservative per se, but are anti-left, and Trump taps into that by being the living embodiment of a middle finger to the left. It's not a cult, the left just sucks so much that a big chunk of the electorate is willing to tolerate an obviously incompetent grifter if he sticks it to them with sufficient vigor and attitude.

I'd say that's spot on. I've seen a lot of sentiment of voting for whoever makes the left the most miserable. So if it's not Trump, it'll be DeSantis.



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With the highlight of the tour being going through Melania's underwear.



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11 Aug 2022, 1:36 am

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I'd say that's spot on. I've seen a lot of sentiment of voting for whoever makes the left the most miserable. So if it's not Trump, it'll be DeSantis.


That's where I'm at, revenge is definitely a factor at this point. They won't leave me alone, so I'm going to pick whoever inflicts the most pain on them in return, even if I have to bend a few of my principles in the process.


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11 Aug 2022, 1:52 am

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I'd say that's spot on. I've seen a lot of sentiment of voting for whoever makes the left the most miserable. So if it's not Trump, it'll be DeSantis.


That's where I'm at, revenge is definitely a factor at this point. They won't leave me alone, so I'm going to pick whoever inflicts the most pain on them in return, even if I have to bend a few of my principles in the process.

Who won't leave you alone? :?


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11 Aug 2022, 2:02 am

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I'd say that's spot on. I've seen a lot of sentiment of voting for whoever makes the left the most miserable. So if it's not Trump, it'll be DeSantis.


That's where I'm at, revenge is definitely a factor at this point. They won't leave me alone, so I'm going to pick whoever inflicts the most pain on them in return, even if I have to bend a few of my principles in the process.

Who won't leave you alone? :?

Hmm is there a clue in the quoted material somewhere... :scratch:



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11 Aug 2022, 2:28 am

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I'd say that's spot on. I've seen a lot of sentiment of voting for whoever makes the left the most miserable. So if it's not Trump, it'll be DeSantis.


That's where I'm at, revenge is definitely a factor at this point. They won't leave me alone, so I'm going to pick whoever inflicts the most pain on them in return, even if I have to bend a few of my principles in the process.

Who won't leave you alone? :?

Hmm is there a clue in the quoted material somewhere... :scratch:

"The Left," is accosting Dox47 in his home/workplace or whatever? :? Or is he just generally griping that Biden is president and he doesn't like liberal ideals? :? Seems like an odd statement to make that "they won't leave me alone," - rather vague.


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11 Aug 2022, 2:38 am

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"The Left," is accosting Dox47 in his home/workplace or whatever? :? Or is he just generally griping that Biden is president and he doesn't like liberal ideals? :? Seems like an odd statement to make that "they won't leave me alone," - rather vague.


Tantrum voters with an ideology that basically amounts to the crab mentality and rage towards anyone who questions it.


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11 Aug 2022, 2:47 am

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"The Left," is accosting Dox47 in his home/workplace or whatever? :? Or is he just generally griping that Biden is president and he doesn't like liberal ideals? :? Seems like an odd statement to make that "they won't leave me alone," - rather vague.


Tantrum voters with an ideology that basically amounts to the crab mentality and rage towards anyone who questions it.

Makes sense.


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11 Aug 2022, 3:25 am

Dox47 wrote:
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It is a mistake, in my opinion, to think of Trump as a Republican. He gets the party support because of promises he makes in trade, but he isn't actually a conservative.

His appeal crosses party lines for reasons that don't fit our party boxes. Its like a cult from my view.


I'll give you a piece of information that a lot of Democrats seem to have trouble truly understanding; there's a huge pool of voters out there who aren't conservative per se, but are anti-left, and Trump taps into that by being the living embodiment of a middle finger to the left. It's not a cult, the left just sucks so much that a big chunk of the electorate is willing to tolerate an obviously incompetent grifter if he sticks it to them with sufficient vigor and attitude.


Sure, there are doubtlessly plenty of people who are tired of extreme wokeness and extreme political correctness. But there isn't a Trump cult? Well, let's consider some of their more insane ideas:
Those who expect JFK Jr. to rise from the dead to be Trump's running mate and expose the world wide pedophile ring.
Those who believe Trump is actually a time traveler.
Those who say: "Time traveler? That's insane! He's obviously Jesus Christ, and this is his Second Coming."
Those who adamantly believe it was Antifa that had stormed the capitol, that patriots are being held as political prisoners for storming the capitol, and see absolutely no contradiction about any of that.
That there was no way Trump could have lost the election to Biden, and so there must have been a vast conspiracy involving Joe Biden, Hunter Biden, Democrat pedophiles, the global Jewish conspiracy, the Devil, Antifa, BLM, the ghost of Cesar Chavez, the global Jewish conspiracy again, China and its bamboo crop, voting machine makers, Italian intelligence using satellites to hack said voting machines, and yet again the global Jewish conspiracy... among others.
Those who can't believe a single word uttered by the media, because they're all out to get Trump.
Those who believe Biden hadn't really assassinated Zawahiri, apparently because the President can't be believed about anything.
That Covid had been created in a lab to derail the Trump Presidency (fellow WP members will recognize that claim posted recently by a member).
I could go on and on, but the list of lunacy would be too much to bare.


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11 Aug 2022, 3:52 am

Kraichgauer wrote:
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It is a mistake, in my opinion, to think of Trump as a Republican. He gets the party support because of promises he makes in trade, but he isn't actually a conservative.

His appeal crosses party lines for reasons that don't fit our party boxes. Its like a cult from my view.


I'll give you a piece of information that a lot of Democrats seem to have trouble truly understanding; there's a huge pool of voters out there who aren't conservative per se, but are anti-left, and Trump taps into that by being the living embodiment of a middle finger to the left. It's not a cult, the left just sucks so much that a big chunk of the electorate is willing to tolerate an obviously incompetent grifter if he sticks it to them with sufficient vigor and attitude.


Sure, there are doubtlessly plenty of people who are tired of extreme wokeness and extreme political correctness. But there isn't a Trump cult? Well, let's consider some of their more insane ideas:
Those who expect JFK Jr. to rise from the dead to be Trump's running mate and expose the world wide pedophile ring.
Those who believe Trump is actually a time traveler.
Those who say: "Time traveler? That's insane! He's obviously Jesus Christ, and this is his Second Coming."
Those who adamantly believe it was Antifa that had stormed the capitol, that patriots are being held as political prisoners for storming the capitol, and see absolutely no contradiction about any of that.
That there was no way Trump could have lost the election to Biden, and so there must have been a vast conspiracy involving Joe Biden, Hunter Biden, Democrat pedophiles, the global Jewish conspiracy, the Devil, Antifa, BLM, the ghost of Cesar Chavez, the global Jewish conspiracy again, China and its bamboo crop, voting machine makers, Italian intelligence using satellites to hack said voting machines, and yet again the global Jewish conspiracy... among others.
Those who can't believe a single word uttered by the media, because they're all out to get Trump.
Those who believe Biden hadn't really assassinated Zawahiri, apparently because the President can't be believed about anything.
That Covid had been created in a lab to derail the Trump Presidency (fellow WP members will recognize that claim posted recently by a member).
I could go on and on, but the list of lunacy would be too much to bare.

He didn't say there wasn't a Trump cult. Rather he pointed out the huge pool of voters who not only aren't the Trump cult, but aren't even conservatives per se, who would vote for Trump or DeSantis purely out of spite because they've come to despise the left so much. They want to see it crushed into oblivion no matter what it takes.



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11 Aug 2022, 3:56 am

Dox47 wrote:
DW_a_mom wrote:
It is a mistake, in my opinion, to think of Trump as a Republican. He gets the party support because of promises he makes in trade, but he isn't actually a conservative.

His appeal crosses party lines for reasons that don't fit our party boxes. Its like a cult from my view.


I'll give you a piece of information that a lot of Democrats seem to have trouble truly understanding; there's a huge pool of voters out there who aren't conservative per se, but are anti-left, and Trump taps into that by being the living embodiment of a middle finger to the left. It's not a cult, the left just sucks so much that a big chunk of the electorate is willing to tolerate an obviously incompetent grifter if he sticks it to them with sufficient vigor and attitude.


I am aware of that, actually, but the group isn't entirely homogeneous. I was thinking a few particular people when I chose the cult reference. The real point was how his appeal crosses standard ideological lines.


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