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28 Sep 2022, 12:44 pm

Please, no politics here.


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28 Sep 2022, 12:49 pm

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Please, no politics here.


This is news and a current event, though. The hurricane is going to necessitate the requirement of emergency services from government, paid for by tax dollars, for even those who oppose any such government services being provided to people in times of need. Quite the irony and worthy of pointing out to those folks, imo.


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28 Sep 2022, 1:10 pm

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magz wrote:
Please, no politics here.


This is news and a current event, though. The hurricane is going to necessitate the requirement of emergency services from government, paid for by tax dollars, for even those who oppose any such government services being provided to people in times of need. Quite the irony and worthy of pointing out to those folks, imo.



This is news about a HURRICANE. Politics have no place in disaster response or reporting. From either side. There are countless other places to engage in that.



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28 Sep 2022, 2:29 pm

“305 PM EDT 28 Sep -- Hurricane #Ian has made landfall as an extremely dangerous Category 4 hurricane near Cayo Costa, Florida with maximum sustained winds at 150 mph. The minimum pressure from Air Force Reconnaissance Hurricane Hunters was 940 mb.”


I am watching social media from Ft. Myers storm surge is over the first floor. I saw one house floating away. A lot of reports of gusts well over 100 MPH

At Naples at the instrument recorded a record storm surge before it stopped recording.


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28 Sep 2022, 2:32 pm

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Take care, Blaze! :heart:

I don’t know her exact location for obvious reasons so i do not now if she is in the core.


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28 Sep 2022, 2:38 pm

I hope my relatives in Tampa are ok. They tend to insist on just riding out the hurricanes...



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28 Sep 2022, 6:57 pm

My nephew lives on Davis Island, in the Tampa area.

I hope they don't get flooded.



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28 Sep 2022, 8:25 pm

Ian was 1 mph away from being a category 5.

It's not over yet. Georgia and South Carolina are next, and cities like Savannah and Charleston are in the path.



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28 Sep 2022, 9:00 pm

Gotta use protection when reporting on a hurricane:

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29 Sep 2022, 3:09 am

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29 Sep 2022, 4:11 am

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Tropical Storm Ian Discussion Number 27
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL AL092022
500 AM EDT Thu Sep 29 2022

Ian's center continues to move northeastward across central Florida,
and nearly all of the heavy rains are located to the north over
northeastern Florida. NWS WSR-88D Doppler velocities from the
Melbourne and Tampa radars have decreased significantly since last
evening, and based on that data, Ian is now a tropical storm with
maximum sustained winds of 55 kt. This intensity is also supported
by wind observations across Florida, with the highest recent
sustained wind being 52 kt at New Smyrna Beach.

Ian's current motion is northeastward, or 040/7 kt. The tail end
of a deep-layer trough is expected to detach from the main trough
axis over the southeastern United States during the next 24 to 48
hours, and Ian is forecast to move around the eastern periphery of
this feature, turning north-northeastward later today and then
north-northwestward by Friday night. In this scenario, Ian should
move off the east coast of Florida later today, and then swing
northward toward the South Carolina coast during the next 36 hours
or so. Although there is some cross-track spread in the guidance,
they all agree on this general scenario, and the NHC track forecast
lies where most of the models are packed. No significant changes
were made to the previous prediction.

Little change in intensity is forecast during the next 24 hours or
so, mainly due to strong southwesterly shear. After 24 hours,
global models are suggesting that Ian could have some favorable
interaction with the eastern U.S. trough, all while it's moving
over the warm 28-29 degree Celsius waters of the Gulf Stream. As a
result, some slight strengthening is indicated in the official
forecast by 36 hours, and Ian could be near hurricane intensity as
it's approaching the coast of South Carolina. This possibility is
accounted for by the Hurricane Watch that is effect for the area.
After moving inland, Ian is expected to weaken quickly, and global
models indicate it should dissipate or become absorbed by another
broader area of low pressure over the Carolinas by day 3.


Key Messages:
1. Coastal water levels continue to subside along the west coast of
Florida. There is a danger of life-threatening storm surge today
through Friday along the coasts of northeast Florida, Georgia,
and South Carolina. Residents in these areas should follow any
advice given by local officials.

2. Tropical-storm-force winds are expected to spread northward
across northeastern Florida, Georgia, and the Carolina coasts
through Friday. Hurricane conditions are possible through
Friday along the coasts of northeastern Florida, Georgia and South
Carolina where a Hurricane Watch in effect.

3. Widespread, life-threatening catastrophic flooding, with major to
record river flooding, will continue today across portions of
central Florida with considerable flooding in northern Florida,
southeastern Georgia and eastern South Carolina expected today
through the end of the week.


CNN Live Updates
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Local rescue teams are sidelined by dangerous conditions as trapped residents call for help, officials say
Rescue and emergency response missions have been delayed in some heavily-impacted parts of Florida because of risky storm conditions, state and local officials said.

In Charlotte County, Emergency Management Director Patrick Fuller said Wednesday night that emergency response teams there will not be able to answer calls for help "until the hazards conditions end." Officials hopes to resume responses Thursday morning.

Other counties have been inundated with emergency calls, with the Collier County Sheriff's Office saying they are in "triage mode."

"We are getting a significant number of calls of people trapped by water in their homes,” the office said in a statement Wednesday.

“Some are reporting life threatening medical emergencies in deep water. We will get to them first. Some are reporting water coming into their house but not life threatening. They will have to wait. Possibly until the water recedes."
First responders in Fort Myers are now out surveying the damage, according to the Fort Myers Fire Department early Thursday morning.

“Crews have reported back with debris in the roadways, flooding, electrical lines down, power poles in the roads, traffic lights out, disabled vehicles, and building collapses,” the department said, asking for residents to remain indoors.

Gov. Ron DeSantis cautioned in a press conference Wednesday that 911 calls may not be answered right away in some areas.

“Local first responders will deploy as soon as it’s safe to do so,” DeSantis said, adding, “By and large until the storm passes, they are not going to go into a situation for rescue and put their own folks at risk."

Roof of ICU in hospital housing 160 patients blew off mid-storm, doctor says
The roof above an ICU at a hospital in Port Charlotte was torn off by the storm, Dr. Birgit Bodine, an internal medicine specialist at the facility, told CNN's Anderson Cooper.

“Unfortunately, today we had about 160 patients in-house and our roof blew off, part of the roof above the ICU. So, of course, we had torrential rains coming in which then went down the stairwell, which then went onto other floors,” Bodine said.
The staff worked together to move patients to a safe place but they can’t evacuate yet because of the conditions outside, the doctor said. Some rooms that are built for two people are now housing three and four patients, she said.

“It’s actually pretty terrible. I’m actually still in the hospital. We still have not been able to leave,” she said.
They hope to be able to evacuate patients in the morning, she said.

While the air conditioner is not working, the hospital is running on backup generators and all other vital systems are working, Bodine said.

More than a foot of rainfall has been recorded in some areas, preliminary totals show
As Hurricane Ian continues to cross the Florida peninsula, some areas are reporting more than a foot of rainfall. Here are some preliminary rainfall totals from Ian, as reported by the National Weather Service in Tampa as of Wednesday night:

Lehigh Acres – 14.42”
Warm Mineral Springs – 11.05”
Ding Darling – 8.71”
Frostproof – 8.34”
North Port – 8.24”

Wind gusts of up to 140 mph reported in southwest Florida as Hurricane Ian struck
High wind gusts and storm surges are being reported as Hurricane Ian moves across Florida. Here are some of the highest winds reported in southwest Florida, according to the National Weather Service:

Cape Coral – 140 mph
Punta Gorda – 124 mph
Grove City – 110 mph
Sarasota – 106 mph
Venice – 104 mph
Fort Myers – 100 mph
The National Weather Service in Tampa notes that some of the automatic reporting stations are broken or are not reporting due to communications failure.


I hate to see what daylight is going to reveal


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29 Sep 2022, 8:54 am

CNN Live Updates

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Large portion of Sanibel Causeway washed away in Hurricane Ian surge
A portion of the Sanibel Causeway has been washed away by storm surge from Hurricane Ian, according to live video from CNN affiliate WBBH.

The causeway is the only way to get to or from Sanibel and Captiva Islands to Florida's mainland.

Sanibel Causeway and Pine Island Bridge are "not passable and they are going to require structural rebuilds," said Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis during an update briefing on Thursday.

CNN geolocated the location where WBBH is reporting from, and the roadway that was washed away is a ramp up to the causeway's second bridge, spanning the second half toward Sanibel Island.

More than 2.5 million customers are still without power across Florida
At least 2,585,737 Florida energy customers are still without power, according to the tracker PowerOutage.us.

In the hardest-hit southwestern region, Lee County, which includes Fort Myers and Cape Coral, about 90% of all customers are in the dark.

About 92% of customers in Charlotte County, home to Port Charlotte and Punta Gorda, lost power.

"Lee and Charlotte [counties] are basically off the grid at this point," Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis said in a news conference earlier Thursday.

DeSantis says he told Biden that federal assistance will be needed for more Florida counties
President Biden and Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis this morning discussed the response to Hurricane Ian and the current need for recovery in the state.

"We have received a major disaster declaration for nine counties, but we do expect more," DeSantis said in a briefing. "I just spoke with the President this morning. He offered support. I told him thanks for this, but because the storm has moved inland and caused a lot of potential damage in the center part of our state, that we are going to be asking for those counties to be expanded and included there."

Biden earlier approved a major disaster declaration for Florida in the aftermath of Hurricane Ian, which makes federal aid available to people in Charlotte, Collier, DeSoto, Hardee, Hillsborough, Lee, Manatee, Pinellas and Sarasota counties.

"That will allow individual Floridians to seek individual assistance from FEMA," DeSantis said. "And that will be something that as you have people that have been displaced due to the catastrophic impacts of Hurricane Ian, you know, that's going to be something that's going to be necessary."

The White House said the President and governor "committed to continued close coordination."


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29 Sep 2022, 9:13 am

goldfish21 wrote:
magz wrote:
Please, no politics here.


This is news and a current event, though. The hurricane is going to necessitate the requirement of emergency services from government, paid for by tax dollars, for even those who oppose any such government services being provided to people in times of need. Quite the irony and worthy of pointing out to those folks, imo.


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29 Sep 2022, 11:59 am

Bryan Norcross veteran hurricane expert says:

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TROPICS UPDATE: Tropical Storm Ian spreads its wind and flooding to North Florida and the Southeast U.S.

Tropical Storm Ian is slowly easing its grip on Southwest Florida, where it produced devastating storm-surge flooding, rainfall flooding, and wind damage across the region. Ian has reached East-Central Florida, but the winds around its broad circulation are still blowing onshore in Fort Myers, Naples, and the surrounding area. This is only allowing the water that pushed inland to recede slowly.

Downtown Fort Myers is about 15 miles up the Caloosahatchee River from the Gulf, but Ian pushed water over 7 feet above normal high tide well past that point on the river. Cape Coral is a large community infused with a canal system near the entrance to the river. The low-lying southern section flooded as salt water streamed into the canals and through the neighborhoods. The surge of Gulf water plowed across the barrier islands like Fort Myers Beach with water up to at least 10 feet.

Significant loss of life is likely in these flooded areas closest to the Gulf, where the water moved in with a velocity and the hurricane's power behind it.

Just to the south, Naples doesn't have barrier islands like Fort Myers. There the surge came over the beach and flooded downtown chest-deep in water.

Other nearby areas received more wind or rain and less surge, but destruction from one hazard or the other was prevalent across the region. The scope of the disaster will take time to assess.

East-Central and North Florida are the focus points today. A core of torrential rain will arc offshore tonight as Ian's center tracks over the ocean. But a blast of onshore wind from a combination of Ian's circulation and a strong high-pressure system to the north is already raising the tide and pushing water into the St. John's River in Jacksonville. The National Hurricane Center is predicting the 3 to 5 feet of water rise in the north end of the river nearest downtown.

This is a repeat of the setup that flooded parts of Jacksonville during Hurricanes Matthew and Irma.

Ian could intensify back to a hurricane over the warm Gulf Stream waters, but significant intensification isn’t likely. The upper-level winds will be quite hostile.

The same onshore push of water that will start in North Florida will eventually be aimed at the Georgia and South Carolina coast as well. The forecast there is that the ocean will rise 4 to 6 feet above normal high tide. This will flood the numerous low-lying areas along those coasts.
The core of heavy rain is forecast to move over the Carolina coast and north into the mountains, where the high terrain will enhance the rain. Winds near the center of the broad surviving circulation will be at or near tropical-storm strength. Downed trees, power outages, and some flooding are expected through this region as well.

Hazards will be very localized with Ian from now on. Everybody should stay in touch with the specific forecasts for your area.

There are no other threats in the immediate offing, though long-range computer models are telling us that we might have a system to watch in the tropical Atlantic next week.

Unfortunately, we still have the often-busy month of October to go.


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29 Sep 2022, 10:00 pm

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You're not even American. You don't know anyone in the path of the storm. Go complain about OUR country's politics in a thread that isn't about an ACTIVE disaster.