Prince Harry, Meghan Markle in car chase involving paparazzi

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20 May 2023, 5:04 am

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Interesting....somebody is not telling the truth...
https://www.news.com.au/entertainment/c ... a9e3276ee5

But whom?

More curious is how it will look when the son of the King is killed in a car chase when his father won't pay for their security
I am sure Charles won't want a repeat of his ex-wife's calamity


I find the article a little misleading, as it leaves to the very end some important qualifying statements made by the cab driver. No one has to be lying; the pieces can be fit together.


If the driver is to be believed then Harry is outright lying. Why would he risk his already tattered reputation by making up lies if there were other witnesses?


The driver admits he was not with them for all of their journey and was there for only 15 minutes. Picked them up and returned them to a police station, so clearly a lot of crazy had already occurred before he got involved, and he also noted they seemed stressed and fearful. So why does Harry have to be lying?


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20 May 2023, 8:09 am

There is no doubt in my mind that Harry was triggered by events that night. I do get the feeling that the story put out by the Sussex's was embellished to garner support for their privacy and show again how the pap scum are pap scum. How much embellishment is still being established and I doubt the full truth will ever come out.


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20 May 2023, 8:23 am

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The driver admits he was not with them for all of their journey and was there for only 15 minutes. Picked them up and returned them to a police station, so clearly a lot of crazy had already occurred before he got involved, and he also noted they seemed stressed and fearful. So why does Harry have to be lying?


Which is precisely my point.



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20 May 2023, 8:50 am

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The driver admits he was not with them for all of their journey and was there for only 15 minutes. Picked them up and returned them to a police station, so clearly a lot of crazy had already occurred before he got involved, and he also noted they seemed stressed and fearful. So why does Harry have to be lying?


Which is precisely my point.


Far be it from me to tell you what your point is, but it appeared to be 'one of them is a liar'


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20 May 2023, 8:55 am

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The driver admits he was not with them for all of their journey and was there for only 15 minutes. Picked them up and returned them to a police station, so clearly a lot of crazy had already occurred before he got involved, and he also noted they seemed stressed and fearful. So why does Harry have to be lying?


Which is precisely my point.


Far be it from me to tell you what your point is, but it appeared to be 'one of them is a liar'


I think the point might be they are both correct (rather than either lying). Harry's stress came from the Papps chasing them before they entered the taxi



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20 May 2023, 9:06 am

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The driver admits he was not with them for all of their journey and was there for only 15 minutes. Picked them up and returned them to a police station, so clearly a lot of crazy had already occurred before he got involved, and he also noted they seemed stressed and fearful. So why does Harry have to be lying?


Which is precisely my point.


Far be it from me to tell you what your point is, but it appeared to be 'one of them is a liar'


I think the point might be they are both correct (rather than either lying). Harry's stress came from the Papps chasing them before they entered the taxi


You are hard work dude :lol:

I'll leave it at that. :)


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20 May 2023, 1:50 pm

Royal Friends Mock Harry and Meghan as NYC Car Chase Story Unravels

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Friends of the British royal family have mocked Prince Harry and Meghan Markle’s account of a “near catastrophic” car chase in New York, after photographs, videos and other participants’ accounts gave a very different—and much less perilous—impression of the evening’s events, with one friend of Prince William quipping, “Recollections may vary.”

The friend added: “I thought they were leaving the royal family for a quieter life. If flashbulbs give Harry flashbacks, I don’t understand why he is going to award ceremonies.”

Asked if William, whose spokesperson has declined to comment on the incident, would at least take Harry’s side on the issue of invasive paparazzi, the friend said: “William and Catherine have put up with s**t like this in the past. Everyone understands his anger at the photographers, but making hysterical statements doesn’t help matters, especially when, as the queen might have said, recollections may vary.”

A friend of King Charles, whose office has also said he won’t be making a formal comment, told The Daily Beast: “Charles will completely understand Harry being upset at being pursued by the paparazzi. He knows how scary it can be. But he has always tried to get Harry to understand that complaining about photographers or the media is pointless. It just makes it all worse.

Indeed, that is exactly what appears to have happened in this case, with the incident redounding badly on Meghan and Harry’s credibility. A widespread impression is forming that the couple exaggerated when they described “a near catastrophic car chase at the hands of a ring of highly aggressive paparazzi,” after they left the Women of Vision awards ceremony at the Ziegfeld Ballroom in midtown Manhattan, where Meghan was being honored.

The Sussexes described what ensued as a “relentless pursuit, lasting over two hours.”

No-one doubts the sincerity of Harry’s anxiety, especially given the manner of his mother’s death. Few would envy him a life constantly punctuated by photographers jumping out of bushes and following him in cars. He has said that he suffers symptoms akin to PTSD when confronted by camera flashes.

That, however, does not affect the simple truth that a protracted, out of control pursuit through the city simply does not tally with the reality of New York’s traffic-clogged streets, a point made by the mayor, Eric Adams, who said, “I would find it hard to believe that there was a two-hour high speed chase.”

A spokesman for the NYPD also appeared to play down the severity of the incident, saying, “The NYPD assisted the private security team protecting the Duke and Duchess of Sussex. There were numerous photographers that made their transport challenging. The Duke and Duchess of Sussex arrived at their destination and there were no reported collisions, summonses, injuries, or arrests in regard.”

So, what did happen after Harry and Meghan left the award ceremony?

CNN reported that Chris Sanchez, who was part of the royal security detail, said Harry and Meghan were followed from the event by a dozen vehicles. Sanchez said he’d “never seen [or] experienced anything like this,” and that “the public were in jeopardy at several points.” The couple switched cars “more than once” during the incident, he added.

CNN also reported that Thomas Buda, who runs a private security business contracted to help the couple, corroborated Sanchez’s account. Buda told CNN that the couple’s convoy took a circuitous route from 23rd Street to 96th Street “before security brought the couple to the 19th police precinct on East 67th street. From there, the couple were moved to a yellow cab but it ended up circling the block and returning them to the police station.”

That this was not a (Netflix) remake of The French Connection was made abundantly clear by comments from taxi driver Sukhcharn Singh who drove the party, which included a security guard, from a police station for a few blocks as they tried to lose the paps.

The driver essentially said it was no big deal and they were never in danger, shrugging: “It’s New York.” However, Singh did say Harry and Meghan looked “nervous and scared.”

Harry and Meghan were ultimately returned safely back to their NYC base for the evening around midnight, Buda told CNN.

On social media, the pushback to the couple has been brutal after multiple photos and videos showed them trundling through New York in the back of a taxi, with Meghan apparently smiling, a point that was seized on by the photo agency Backgrid, which typically is a big customer for paparazzi shots. In its own statement, Backgrid also accused Prince Harry’s security escort of “driving in a manner that could be perceived as reckless. The vehicle was seen blocking off streets, and in one video, it is shown being pulled over by the police.”


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20 May 2023, 5:42 pm

No-one doubts the sincerity of Harry’s anxiety, especially given the manner of his mother’s death. Few would envy him a life constantly punctuated by photographers jumping out of bushes and following him in cars. He has said that he suffers symptoms akin to PTSD when confronted by camera flashes.


I'm not sure this is funny? certain people in the media and royal family reveal more about themselves than this does about the Sussexes,



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20 May 2023, 6:20 pm

^ Who said it was funny?

My bad, it was the mockers in ASPOM link. I think the quotes are BS tbh, a friend of William?, a friend of Charles? yeah right.


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20 May 2023, 6:43 pm

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^ Who said it was funny?

My bad, it was the mockers in ASPOM link. I think the quotes are BS tbh, a friend of William?, a friend of Charles? yeah right.


Yeah, which high profile "friend" would risk their reputation mocking Harry?



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21 May 2023, 6:20 am

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I thought they lived in Santa Barbara ? dunno.

In the OP it says the stalker was at their home in Montecito in Santa Barbara.


They were in New York City for some event. The word is that they were too cheap to stay at the Carlyle (sp?) and the Carlyle refused to give them a special discount. So they were staying at someone's apartment a ways away.

They also say that it was a bunch of nothing. The high speed car chase through Manhattan was so fast that the driver had time to get out of the car at some point during the chase. Also, they had a police escort for the entire trip and the police said nothing happened.

Someone pointed out that New York City is the wrong place for self obsessed royalty to try to make a big splash because nobody there really cares.



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21 May 2023, 6:22 am

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No-one doubts the sincerity of Harry’s anxiety, especially given the manner of his mother’s death. Few would envy him a life constantly punctuated by photographers jumping out of bushes and following him in cars. He has said that he suffers symptoms akin to PTSD when confronted by camera flashes.


I'm not sure this is funny? certain people in the media and royal family reveal more about themselves than this does about the Sussexes,


People who were at the event they went to said that the couple made a point of giving the photographers present some good shots instead of going out another exist where they would be largely hidden from the photographers.



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21 May 2023, 8:12 pm

I think the couple have to some extent created difficult problems for themselves by living outside of the UK and becoming fixtures for paparazzi attention. If they aren't able to afford security then this will be a safety issue for them that they will need to navigate.

I'm thinking more for Lillibeth and Archie who are innocent pawns in this game. Their grandfather has chosen to punish them in punishing his son.



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21 May 2023, 10:56 pm

Punishing his son?

The son and the son's wife exiled themselves. They are responsible for their situation.



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21 May 2023, 11:09 pm

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Punishing his son?

The son and the son's wife exiled themselves. They are responsible for their situation.


No I mean Harry is angry that his father won't fund 24-7 security detail for them. This wouldn't have been an issue if Megxit never happened.



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23 May 2023, 6:21 am

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Punishing his son?

The son and the son's wife exiled themselves. They are responsible for their situation.


No I mean Harry is angry that his father won't fund 24-7 security detail for them. This wouldn't have been an issue if Megxit never happened.


And who is responsible for that? That was a rhetorical question: Meghan and Harry is the clear answer.