1000 Yr old non-human bodies shown to Mexican govt

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13 Sep 2023, 7:50 pm

The alleged bodies of two “non-human” beings were presented during a congressional hearing in Mexico, generating a mixture of surprise, disbelief and ridicule on social media on Wednesday.
https://www.news.com.au/technology/scie ... da0f927fa5

The purported mummified remains were exhibited in two small display cases — the first time the Mexican Congress has officially addressed the issue of possible extraterrestrial life.

The alleged corpses, which had a greyish colour and a human-like body form, were brought by Jaime Maussan, a controversial Mexican journalist and researcher who reported finding them in Peru in 2017.

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Xrays of one of the mummies shows they might contain eggs

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13 Sep 2023, 9:54 pm

This has gained attention because renowned labs worldwide, including Genetech, Lakehead University, Abraxas, BioTecMal, Ingemmet, UNAM, Harrisburg University, and others, have analyzed the fossilized bodies. They've used 3D X-rays, DNA samples, and more to confirm its authenticity. (Furthermore, at the congressional hearing, they revealed all the 3D scans of metal implants and the so-called "eggs." This was broadcasted live and made available for public viewing.



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13 Sep 2023, 9:58 pm

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Analysis of the specimens in question in Peru showed that they were manufactured using a combination of human and animal bones, vegetable fibers and synthetic adhesives.

Another analysis in 2021 determined that the head of one of the specimens was a deteriorated llama braincase. While debunking the contention that the mummies were extraterrestrials, the researchers expressed wonder as to how the specimens were made centuries ago, appearing to be “constructions of very high quality.”


https://www.nytimes.com/2023/09/13/worl ... exico.html


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13 Sep 2023, 10:18 pm

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Analysis of the specimens in question in Peru showed that they were manufactured using a combination of human and animal bones, vegetable fibers and synthetic adhesives.

Another analysis in 2021 determined that the head of one of the specimens was a deteriorated llama braincase. While debunking the contention that the mummies were extraterrestrials, the researchers expressed wonder as to how the specimens were made centuries ago, appearing to be “constructions of very high quality.”


https://www.nytimes.com/2023/09/13/worl ... exico.html


So they're constructs and not actually corpses?


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13 Sep 2023, 10:26 pm

^ Yeah, I guess they're a conglomeration of different animal and human parts, but we'll probably hear more in the coming days.


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14 Sep 2023, 5:48 am

The original analysis in 2017 "I can affirm that these bodies have no relation to human beings," said Jose de Jesus Zalce Benitez, director of the Scientific Institute for Health of the Mexican navy, during the hearing.

Scientists working with the National Laboratory of Mass Spectrometry with Accelerators at the National Autonomous University of Mexico (NAUM) put the bodies through a battery of tests, including an analysis of DNA and 3D X-rays.

The presentation of the bodies permits independent analysis of the results which will go a long way to confirming just what these creatures are.



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14 Sep 2023, 12:41 pm

Soooo some prankster made a joke with a 1000 year gap to the punchline? :?


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14 Sep 2023, 1:00 pm

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Soooo some prankster made a joke with a 1000 year gap to the punchline? :?


And when we opened up the 'alien' do you know what we found?

A brick.


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14 Sep 2023, 1:01 pm

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The presentation of the bodies permits independent analysis of the results which will go a long way to confirming just what these creatures are.


Supposing they're creatures to begin with.


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14 Sep 2023, 2:04 pm

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Maussan and others have presented similar claims about alleged alien remains in the past. Scientists have dismissed them as either ancient Peruvian mummies or manipulated mummies.


https://www.npr.org/2023/09/13/11992513 ... s-congress

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“With the experience that all the researchers who have worked with pre-Columbian mummies have, especially from the Nazca area, it is very clear to us that these mummies, the large ones, are pre-Columbian human beings that have been modified for commercial purposes, and the supposed ‘small mummies’ are structures that have been put together,” physical anthropologist Guido Lombardi, who has studied mummies in Peru, told the newspaper El Comercio.

Flavio Estrada, a forensic archaeologist who analyzed the mummies for the Institute of Legal Medicine and Forensic Sciences of the Public Ministry in Peru, has said that the remains of the alleged aliens “are creations made from animal and human bones held together with synthetic glue” which have, in turn been covered in a fake skin.


https://www.wired.com/story/mexico-cong ... iens-fake/


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14 Sep 2023, 2:46 pm

The title should be edited to say 1000 Yr old non-human non-bodies shown to Mexican govt


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14 Sep 2023, 2:55 pm

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The title should be edited to say 1000 Yr old non-human non-bodies shown to Mexican govt

I agree. :lol:

No matter how much this will be debunked, I’m sure it will continue to be important to conspiracy theorists and the like for a long time.


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14 Sep 2023, 3:33 pm

So...like the skull of the "Piltdown Man" these bodies were cobbled together from different species' body parts.

But unlike the Piltdown Man it was not an intentional hoax fabricated by modern folks to punk their contemporaries.

It was an accidental hoax...the folks who cobbled the "bodies" together were Pre Columbian Native Americans who created the things for their own (probably ritual) purposes, and could not have imagined that their creations would (a) resurface a thousand years later, and (b) a thousand years later there would be such things as astronauts who ride in space ships, and live in space stations, nor that (c) folks from a thousand years later would look at their creations and jump to the conclusion that their creations were "astronauts in reverse" (spacemen from other planets visiting us).

Imagine if you tried to explain all of that to them. :lol:



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14 Sep 2023, 4:13 pm

Wait. I'm confused about the story. So the cops knew that lnternal Affairs was setting them up?


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14 Sep 2023, 9:39 pm

TwilightPrincess wrote:
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Maussan and others have presented similar claims about alleged alien remains in the past. Scientists have dismissed them as either ancient Peruvian mummies or manipulated mummies.


https://www.npr.org/2023/09/13/11992513 ... s-congress

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“With the experience that all the researchers who have worked with pre-Columbian mummies have, especially from the Nazca area, it is very clear to us that these mummies, the large ones, are pre-Columbian human beings that have been modified for commercial purposes, and the supposed ‘small mummies’ are structures that have been put together,” physical anthropologist Guido Lombardi, who has studied mummies in Peru, told the newspaper El Comercio.

Flavio Estrada, a forensic archaeologist who analyzed the mummies for the Institute of Legal Medicine and Forensic Sciences of the Public Ministry in Peru, has said that the remains of the alleged aliens “are creations made from animal and human bones held together with synthetic glue” which have, in turn been covered in a fake skin.


https://www.wired.com/story/mexico-cong ... iens-fake/


If they were categorically debunked in 2017 then why is the Mexican govt entertaining the claims and even holding a public hearing in Sept 2023? reminds of the current Pentagon/CIA/NASA hearings. All strange for phenomena that were also supposedly debunked and yet....



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14 Sep 2023, 9:51 pm

A perfectly intelligent response: I don't know. People, including governments, make odd decisions all the time.

More will come out in the coming days. For now, we have a reasonable and a much more likely explanation than aliens.


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