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06 Dec 2023, 11:04 am

TV producer Norman Lear, who gave us Archie Bunker and George Jefferson, has passed on at age 101. He had kept me laughing - and thinking - since I was a little kid. He will be missed.

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06 Dec 2023, 11:11 am

Oh man, I loved Archie Bunker.

RIP Norman.


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06 Dec 2023, 1:53 pm

Gosh.
A major innovator in TV.

Saw him being saluted on TV ...not in theater but an intimate littile roundtable of stars of his past shows....like a year ago. Not a moment too soon.



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07 Dec 2023, 3:35 pm

If not for him, I would have never learned that toilet is pronounced "turlet".


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07 Dec 2023, 6:05 pm

:lol:

And that La Salle cars "ran great".



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07 Dec 2023, 6:41 pm

most people failed to properly construe that lyric in that song.



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07 Dec 2023, 7:14 pm

auntblabby wrote:
most people failed to properly construe that lyric in that song.


Yes. For the first couple of seasons...our family...our friends' families...and everyone in America would shake their heads and say "gee are ollah salivate?????".

In fact the newspapers suppliment called "Parade" even had to print what that line really was for all us befuddled readers demanding to know.

But in the later seasons Edith and Archie would slow down and come down hard on each syllable ...and you could actually decipher "gee our old... LaSalle...ran...great....those were the daaaaays".

Watch the reruns.


Trouble is Dad said that "they arent of the class of people who would have owned a La Salle". Mom countered that "they might have owned a used one". Like poor White trash today might own a used Caddy.

Wasnt born in the interwar period so I dunno. :)



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07 Dec 2023, 9:12 pm

naturalplastic wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
most people failed to properly construe that lyric in that song.


Yes. For the first couple of seasons...our family...our friends' families...and everyone in America would shake their heads and say "gee are ollah salivate?????".In fact the newspapers suppliment called "Parade" even had to print what that line really was for all us befuddled readers demanding to know. But in the later seasons Edith and Archie would slow down and come down hard on each syllable ...and you could actually decipher "gee our old... LaSalle...ran...great....those were the daaaaays". Watch the reruns. Trouble is Dad said that "they arent of the class of people who would have owned a La Salle". Mom countered that "they might have owned a used one". Like poor White trash today might own a used Caddy. Wasnt born in the interwar period so I dunno. :)

if you listen to the lyrics you can tell that they communicated at 2 levels, one satirical and one nostalgic. lear and the songwriters were throwing smoke at the common "rose-colored glasses" nostalgic vision many amuuricans had of the "good ol' days" when in fact most folk barely kept themselves fed with a roof over their head.

Boy, the way Glenn Miller played
songs that made the hit parade
Guys like me we had it made
Those were the days
Didn't need no welfare state
ev'rybody pulled his weight
gee our old LaSalle ran great
Those were the days
And you knew who you were then
girls were girls and men were men
Mister we could use a man like Herbert Hoover again
People seemed to be content
fifty dollars paid the rent
freaks were in a circus tent
Those were the days


obviously false assertions as there was welfare back in "the good ol' days" - nobody but richie riches drove lasalles back then either. herbert hoover's shortcomings were widely critiqued and evident [via scattered "hooverville" homeless communities] by way of his pig-headed refusal to lift a finger to help during the depression, and as a result lost re-election by a landslide. and there were cross-dressers and LGBT folk back then in the same rough proportions [1-10% though severely closeted outside the big cities] as today.



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07 Dec 2023, 10:32 pm

auntblabby wrote:
naturalplastic wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
most people failed to properly construe that lyric in that song.


Yes. For the first couple of seasons...our family...our friends' families...and everyone in America would shake their heads and say "gee are ollah salivate?????".In fact the newspapers suppliment called "Parade" even had to print what that line really was for all us befuddled readers demanding to know. But in the later seasons Edith and Archie would slow down and come down hard on each syllable ...and you could actually decipher "gee our old... LaSalle...ran...great....those were the daaaaays". Watch the reruns. Trouble is Dad said that "they arent of the class of people who would have owned a La Salle". Mom countered that "they might have owned a used one". Like poor White trash today might own a used Caddy. Wasnt born in the interwar period so I dunno. :)

if you listen to the lyrics you can tell that they communicated at 2 levels, one satirical and one nostalgic. lear and the songwriters were throwing smoke at the common "rose-colored glasses" nostalgic vision many amuuricans had of the "good ol' days" when in fact most folk barely kept themselves fed with a roof over their head.

Boy, the way Glenn Miller played
songs that made the hit parade
Guys like me we had it made
Those were the days
Didn't need no welfare state
ev'rybody pulled his weight
gee our old LaSalle ran great
Those were the days
And you knew who you were then
girls were girls and men were men
Mister we could use a man like Herbert Hoover again
People seemed to be content
fifty dollars paid the rent
freaks were in a circus tent
Those were the days


obviously false assertions as there was welfare back in "the good ol' days" - nobody but richie riches drove lasalles back then either. herbert hoover's shortcomings were widely critiqued and evident [via scattered "hooverville" homeless communities] by way of his pig-headed refusal to lift a finger to help during the depression, and as a result lost re-election by a landslide. and there were cross-dressers and LGBT folk back then in the same rough proportions [1-10% though severely closeted outside the big cities] as today.


To be sure, conservatives have always seen the alleged golden age of the past through rose tinted glasses.


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08 Dec 2023, 1:22 am

RIP to the man who gave us some of the best characters. :cry:


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08 Dec 2023, 9:54 pm

RIP. A great man.


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08 Dec 2023, 11:44 pm

i hope there are others coming up through the wings like he.



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09 Dec 2023, 12:20 am

auntblabby wrote:
i hope there are others coming up through the wings like he.


I fear they broke the mould after he was born.


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09 Dec 2023, 2:12 am

I'll bet the anti-vaxxers are saying he died from getting vaccinated for covid.



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09 Dec 2023, 3:24 am

lostonearth35 wrote:
I'll bet the anti-vaxxers are saying he died from getting vaccinated for covid.


Which was... three years ago or so? I'll put nothing past those raging morons.


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