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31 Jul 2024, 5:42 pm

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I think you're assuming he raised more red flags than he actually raised and that therefore something must have been missed instead of the possibility that there wasn't much to miss in the first place.


Curiously like the 17 yr old kid in the UK, they both seem to be relatively normal. I am wondering what is motivating a semi-normal teenage boy to become a mass murderer. Elephant - room....

We’re talking about two people. There’s no reason why they’d need to have the same motivation. It looks like we don’t know enough to come to any conclusion and Cornflake asked us not to speculate.


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31 Jul 2024, 5:47 pm

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I think you're assuming he raised more red flags than he actually raised and that therefore something must have been missed instead of the possibility that there wasn't much to miss in the first place.


Curiously like the 17 yr old kid in the UK, they both seem to be relatively normal. I am wondering what is motivating a semi-normal teenage boy to become a mass murderer. Elephant - room....


It's a shortcut to celebrity in our current media environment.

Not to assign that motive to either of them.


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31 Jul 2024, 5:51 pm

cyberdad wrote:
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I think you're assuming he raised more red flags than he actually raised and that therefore something must have been missed instead of the possibility that there wasn't much to miss in the first place.


Curiously like the 17 yr old kid in the UK, they both seem to be relatively normal. I am wondering what is motivating a semi-normal teenage boy to become a mass murderer. Elephant - room....



This is genuinely the Question ...And all this awareness..by law enforcement , in the 10 mins before the event ??
And then you might wonder , what info might have been gained if , he was caught alive? .. what created the more or less radicalized shooter ?


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31 Jul 2024, 10:25 pm

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A Woman President and given her heritage .. it would be about time ..! but n the long run ...am thinking that possibly , it will not be business as usually .. And am thinking the military Industrial Complex , will have the final say , I fear. 8O

Sometimes , I wonder how much control over the Wold the Industrial leaders of the Workd , that meet at the World economic forum has actual control , over how the politics of the world work for their own benefit ? :twisted:

more than what the sheeple could conceive.



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31 Jul 2024, 10:29 pm

Jakki wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
I think you're assuming he raised more red flags than he actually raised and that therefore something must have been missed instead of the possibility that there wasn't much to miss in the first place.


Curiously like the 17 yr old kid in the UK, they both seem to be relatively normal. I am wondering what is motivating a semi-normal teenage boy to become a mass murderer. Elephant - room....


This is genuinely the Question ...And all this awareness..by law enforcement , in the 10 mins before the event ??
And then you might wonder , what info might have been gained if , he was caught alive? .. what created the more or less radicalized shooter ?

the answer, is basically the community that inadequately raised him to ineffective adulthood. it really DOES take a village, as Hillary said.



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31 Jul 2024, 10:51 pm

If I had been the Secret Service I would have been aware of the civilians seeing the guy on the roof. Told Trump you will have to stand down from speaking because we have visuals on a possible gunman. Okay...we neutralized/caught (whichever) that gunman who turned out to be an actual gunman...but he might have accomplices. So sir...you might wanna cancel the event.

But even in this day of instant net access...the Secret Service doesnt need to instantly learn the suspect's whole biography.



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01 Aug 2024, 1:09 am

i'd love to hear all the witness testimony, to make sure there wasn't an alternative "grassy knoll" where more bullets were coming from.



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01 Aug 2024, 1:49 am

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i'd love to hear all the witness testimony, to make sure there wasn't an alternative "grassy knoll" where more bullets were coming from.


I suspect in such a case Trump wouldn't have left there alive.


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01 Aug 2024, 2:18 am

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i'd love to hear all the witness testimony, to make sure there wasn't an alternative "grassy knoll" where more bullets were coming from.


I suspect in such a case Trump wouldn't have left there alive.

unless the goal of the unknown assassins' bosses [in "echelons beyond reality" IOW the money powers of the world] was to set the tone, to put him in his place and make sure he knows he can be gotten any time. those little known powers wanted to make sure he stuck to their script.



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01 Aug 2024, 3:27 am

TwilightPrincess wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
I think you're assuming he raised more red flags than he actually raised and that therefore something must have been missed instead of the possibility that there wasn't much to miss in the first place.


Curiously like the 17 yr old kid in the UK, they both seem to be relatively normal. I am wondering what is motivating a semi-normal teenage boy to become a mass murderer. Elephant - room....

We’re talking about two people. There’s no reason why they’d need to have the same motivation. It looks like we don’t know enough to come to any conclusion and Cornflake asked us not to speculate.

Agreed, but I am not speculating, rather like everyone else, I am also interested in their motivation.



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01 Aug 2024, 3:29 am

Jakki wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
I think you're assuming he raised more red flags than he actually raised and that therefore something must have been missed instead of the possibility that there wasn't much to miss in the first place.


Curiously like the 17 yr old kid in the UK, they both seem to be relatively normal. I am wondering what is motivating a semi-normal teenage boy to become a mass murderer. Elephant - room....



This is genuinely the Question ...And all this awareness..by law enforcement , in the 10 mins before the event ??
And then you might wonder , what info might have been gained if , he was caught alive? .. what created the more or less radicalized shooter ?

thanks, this is the $64 thousand dollar question, what motivates an erstwhile normal human being to be wake up and decide to commit murder of random people.



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01 Aug 2024, 3:39 am

funeralxempire wrote:
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I think you're assuming he raised more red flags than he actually raised and that therefore something must have been missed instead of the possibility that there wasn't much to miss in the first place.


Curiously like the 17 yr old kid in the UK, they both seem to be relatively normal. I am wondering what is motivating a semi-normal teenage boy to become a mass murderer. Elephant - room....


It's a shortcut to celebrity in our current media environment.

Not to assign that motive to either of them.


that too



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06 Aug 2024, 12:38 am

After finding out what an ableist prick he is, I wish it went differently.


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06 Aug 2024, 2:44 am

it does no good to wish for violence upon evil, there is just too much evil for humanity to fight, it is like playing an infernal game of "whack-a-mole."



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06 Aug 2024, 5:16 pm

news on the deceased young man is being usurped by other events.



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06 Aug 2024, 11:09 pm

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news on the deceased young man is being usurped by other events.

Got to wonder if it is intentional .....when something is rotten in some situation.. it seems to be the issue to sweep it under the Carpet ....Personally , I would LIKE to know his reasoning..only blind sheep might not care to know the full story, I would think ! Not Like Trump already has had the medua eating out of his hand on a daily basis ..
And would a thinking person , already suspect a conspirascy ? And more so ,with media reaction, to sweep it under the carpet????. :ninja: :roll: :evil:


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