Illegal in Australia to make fun of redheads

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20 Aug 2024, 5:53 pm

A local Queensland mayor John Paul Lanbroek's joke about a colleague (Joe Wilkinson) being a "ranga" (Aussie slang for redhead) has instigated a full blown investigation by the Queensland Office of the Independent Assessor (OIA) a local equivalent of a federal office for internal investigations.

https://www.news.com.au/finance/work/at ... 64d908163a

the office found the mayor (a councillor of east Asian origin) may have broken standards of behaviour requiring councillors to “treat people in a reasonable, just, respectful and non-discriminatory way”, to “treat fellow councillors, local government employees and members of the public with courtesy, honesty and fairness” and “have proper regard for other people’s rights, obligations, cultural differences, safety, health and welfare”.

“While the conduct may well be argued to be in jest or intended to be humorous, it was considered in assessing this matter that the term (ranga) was still capable of being discriminatory and unreasonably causing offence to particular groups,” the OIA said in its determination.

“The complaint raised various concerns about the use of the term “ranga” by the mayor, including its references to orangutans.



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20 Aug 2024, 6:07 pm

GO BLOODNUTS !



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20 Aug 2024, 6:10 pm

So my friends wouldn't be able to tease me in good fun and banter if we were living in Australia.


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20 Aug 2024, 6:14 pm

^^^
That's funny!
Downunder your best friend is likely to address you as "Hey Dickhead!"

Ranga is only really objected to because of the ape reference.



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20 Aug 2024, 7:58 pm

CockneyRebel wrote:
So my friends wouldn't be able to tease me in good fun and banter if we were living in Australia.

I would guess -- or at least hope -- that government officials, and other people in positions of power or professional responsibility, are held to higher standards of respectful behavior than ordinary folks are, at least in non-work situations.


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20 Aug 2024, 8:07 pm

As a fellow redhead, I approve.


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21 Aug 2024, 8:22 am

Watch it to the end (or at least the first 2.5 minutes).


https://youtu.be/KVN_0qvuhhw



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21 Aug 2024, 2:28 pm

So I'm guessing "gingers have no souls" is out as well.


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21 Aug 2024, 3:23 pm

Id heard of "gingers". Didnt know that there was a second term "ranga" for the same group.

Arguably being compared to a nonhuman primate is more hurtful than being compared to a cooking spice in a jar.

Ironically the animal name is from the Malay word for "man of the forest"...so originally it was an animal being compared to a human (a promotion?).



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21 Aug 2024, 3:27 pm

Late husband told me of his growing up in grade school ,where he consistently picked on as a target..for a group of bullies, who used to beat on him, as he ran home from school very often...Am pretty sure he might of has some Aspie tendencies aswell.....And perhaps he might have had a better future ,if something had been done then..but , he had been quite successful as it was ..As far as getting by in Life . :mrgreen: .....He had recieved several medals for his actions during military service. Which I did not discover until long after his passing ..Based on copies of his past Air Force military records. Red hair is said to be a recessive gene...Most odd in his case, both his parents were Redheads too. :heart:


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21 Aug 2024, 5:17 pm

^

Its not "odd" at all to be a redhead if both parents were redhead. Its what you would expect in any trait (if it were recessive or not).

You got a double barrel of whatever the trait is.

If brown hair were dominant over red. And both parents were brown haired either one, or both, parents could be carrying the recessive red gene. So you might get a copy of that recessive gene from both and be a redhead. But if one parent were carrying both genes as brown then you could be BR or BB. Either way you would be brown haired because even if you were BR the B would dominate.



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21 Aug 2024, 5:26 pm

naturalplastic wrote:
Ironically the animal name is from the Malay word for "man of the forest"...so originally it was an animal being compared to a human (a promotion?).


I speak Bahasa, which is common language of both Malaysia and Indonesia, Orang - man and Utan - forest so orangutan means man of the forest...



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21 Aug 2024, 5:28 pm

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If brown hair were dominant over red. And both parents were brown haired either one, or both, parents could be carrying the recessive red gene. So you might get a copy of that recessive gene from both and be a redhead. But if one parent were carrying both genes as brown then you could be BR or BB. Either way you would be brown haired because even if you were BR the B would dominate.


How do you explain Meghan Markle's two red headed children? how does she carry the red haired gene as none of her side of the family are redheads? and red hair is recessive?



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21 Aug 2024, 5:43 pm

Her dad is White. But all pics you see of him show him as white haired. Dont know what his original hair color was.

But a racially mixed family like the Markles, or even an ostensibly all Black family of American descendants of antebellum slaves (whose female ancestors might well have been raped by red haired White slave owners) could well be carrying the recessive gene for red hair for generations without anyone exhibiting it in living memory (because it would always be paired with another color coding dominant gene).

And then someone marries a pasty faced red haired Celtic looking Brit monarch ... and the kids get two all red dice from him and a red and a brown from the other parent...meaning that each kid would have a fifty-fifty chance of getting the dominant-recessive throw (resulting in brown hair), and a fifty-fifty chance of getting the recessive-recessive throw which would yield red. So its no miracle that two kids would both get the same fifty fifty dice toss.

Remember those little grids they taught you in seventh grade science class?

+++R B
R RR RB

R RR RB

The vertical R's on the left side are what they get from the prince. The horizontal R and horizontal B on top are what they get from the princess. The combos in the matrix are what any children would get. As you can see the kids will have the fifty percent chance of getting the double shot of the recessive red gene (resulting in the red phenotype hair color). But also fifty of getting brown hair from the RB combo because brown would dominate.



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22 Aug 2024, 2:32 am

My understanding of Mendelian inheritance is
BB - brown
BR - brown - red recessive but carried
RR - red expressed (Harry)

so we know Markle can't be BB because
BB + RR = all kids would be BR which means brown hair

that means she's carrying a recessive red gene so she must be BR
BR + RR = 50% chance kids will get red hair
Probability of two kids in a row getting red hair is 0.5 x 0.5 = 25% chance
So she beat the odds



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22 Aug 2024, 5:50 am

That's a very strange law.


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