Apparently Unemployable & Depressed About It

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Ann2011
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01 Jun 2014, 2:31 pm

Yes, that's a good idea. Thanks. : )
One foot in front of the other. Even if you dont know where you're going. lol



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01 Jun 2014, 6:23 pm

[[[Ann]]] Is not having a job putting you at risk of homelessnes, anything like that? If not, maybe go back to dog walking, dog sitting, pooper scooping, tutoring, baking and selling your cookies, selling Avon, maybe take a couple inexpensive jewelry making classes and design and sell your jewelry, day care, elder care, practice online tutorials and learn to make gorgeous wedding cakes, if you play a musical instrument well, start giving classes. Do you have access to nice furniture? Maybe you could stage houses that are for sale. You could scout the neighborhoods and call realtors and keep up the exterior of homes on the market, you could be like me and offer to start up an ice cream shop in a nudist resort. Can you dance specific dances well. If so, could you brush up on your skills and then teach them to seniors at the rec center? Could you get a grant to learn engine repair?

Ann, you are a strong woman. And, I'm sure you have had challenges before that are now merely memories, often of success.

I do not know if you have supportive friends and family [ I don't have many at all] but they can be your greatest allies in helping you spread the word of what you need and what you can offer.

As for applying for assistance, I imagine it takes forever to get approved, so you might consider applying and if by the time you qualify you do not need it, then don't take it.



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01 Jun 2014, 6:39 pm

Oh, I'm on ODSP now. Have been for a couple of years after a nasty breakdown. My Mom and I share the rent of a nice two bedroom apartment. So I'm okay there.
I'm trying to get back on my feet. I have had really good jobs in the past, but have not been able to cope and have unfortunately burned good bridges (mostly due to inappropriate behaviour on my part.)
Now I have a sketchy work history, no recent references and no real skills.
Tomorrow I am going to a local grooming salon to offer to volunteer. Couldn't hurt.



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01 Jun 2014, 9:08 pm

Is ODSP like SSDI? Nice little off the books side jobs sound good. I think it's great that you are going to a dog grooming place tommorrow. Have you done that before? one of my DILs' is an animal groomer. She is autistic, [also has lupus] and works from her home. She loves it. And the money she makes is off the books.

When she lived in New jersey, she was much in demand, groomed quite a few animals for movies, and for dog and horse shows. Even if you have never done this, by volunteering you can learn it. I think you will excell at this. And a nice thing, a dog groomer when they feel like it can socialize with the dog owners. They know what to talk about [the dog] are appreciated, and if they do not feel like talking to someone it will not hurt you to be known as the woman who doesn't really like people but is a genius with the dogs.

If you ever get to Colorado,I am sure that my DIL would be happy to show you a few tricks, though because of her lupus she is doing very little grooming right now. and I could give you a tour of the nudist club where I live. There are quite a few nice single men who are kind and financially stable up here, Oh, and we are all pretty much old, wrinkly, fat, and saggy [but still incredibly beautiful]



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01 Jun 2014, 10:00 pm

That's tempting ... is your club 420 friendly? Sounds utopian.

ODSP = Ontario Disability Support Program
I'm on it for anxiety and depression.

I have a good rapport with animals. I rode horses for years. I fugure if I can learn the grooming trade I can build up a clientele in my building and go to people's homes. I would declare the money though. They're pretty fair with what they allow you to keep.



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01 Jun 2014, 10:47 pm

I've had a financially good career, but it's been hell. Sometimes, I wonder if I'd been happier living in a small cabin away from everyone. We had a farm and I stayed for about three months in the woods. Actually, it was quite nice.



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02 Jun 2014, 1:17 am

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Well if this is more about feeling useful, and not about the pay, the Squid says "Go for it!"

I'm on ODSP for anxiety and depression for the next while at least, but I can't rely on it as you never know when it might be yanked ... especially with getting a new doctor ... anything could happen.

But mostly I want to feel useful and not take support money if I dont have to.


i'm on disability, but it's in the states, i can't speak to canada, but maybe it's similar.

my perspective is with the amount of money that companies gain using loopholes to avoid paying taxes everyone could have the same benefits i do, with the amount the government spends on things that i paid taxes into that i didn't want to like war or kick backs and so on, everyone and then some could have the same benefits i do. i researched other countries that have broader social welfare programs and my conclusion is that they help the economy long term. also all of the money i get is spent, injecting money into the local economy. more importantly i feel it's more humane. i've felt this way all my life, guess that's part of why i'm disabled though. :lol:

it took more time to get over the not useful thing, but i decided that i have been given a gift and am lucky to be able to determine myself what i think is useful and then spend the time working on it. i work in part so that someday i can help other people be so lucky.

my thinking is that long term, working on art, music, writing, programing, etc any creative endeavor that makes something "timeless" is an investment into my long term financial independence and while it may not succeed it's hardly useless.

for instance, you have music that was made 50 years ago, most of the people that made it are dead and it's still making profits today. there were painters that died penniless that have works that sell for millions of dollars. i don't have an expectation that i will be like that but it just illustrates to me how random it all is.

on the flip-side i have close family members and friends that worked like dogs, saved and then lost it all due to criminal stock market activity before they retired or were "let go" early to avoid paying pensions. i know people that have committed suicide after retirement because they didn't know what to do with their time because they had spent it all working for someone else that didn't really care about them as person.

i don't see the point to work an unfulfilling job i couldn't find meaning in or a job that as no reason for existing other than to employ people just because some people will look down on me. i did work a job like this for a few years and i feel they were completely wasted, i felt terrible, constantly stressed and overwhelmed, had no energy outside of work, even though it was part time, i didn't even spend any of the money because i was too wiped out.

anyway, rambling, but i'd say if you're feeling depression and anxiety outside of not having a job you are worthwhile to spend the time it takes to work on that! :) dealing with that is a smart investment in your future and i think that anyone that tries to shame you for that is shortsighted and i can't imagine they've ever been depressed or had serious anxiety.

regardless, good luck. :)



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02 Jun 2014, 10:33 am

Being a nudist club, we have to be very careful of creating no controversy. Because of that, there is no public smoking of cannabis. my youngest son was one of the first minors to receive the mmj card years ago. We were hoping with the law changes that he [and everyone else] would be able to smoke outside [we live in a teeny travel trailer, so it always reeks] but, not yet. Many people do smoke on their decks, but we live on the main road. we are family oriented so I can understand why parents with children might be bothered fwith everyone smoking in public. [but, yeah...you could probably find the best herb in the world here. definitely]



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02 Jun 2014, 11:20 am

foodeater wrote:
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Well if this is more about feeling useful, and not about the pay, the Squid says "Go for it!"

I'm on ODSP for anxiety and depression for the next while at least, but I can't rely on it as you never know when it might be yanked ... especially with getting a new doctor ... anything could happen.

But mostly I want to feel useful and not take support money if I dont have to.

i don't see the point to work an unfulfilling job i couldn't find meaning in or a job that as no reason for existing other than to employ people just because some people will look down on me. i did work a job like this for a few years and i feel they were completely wasted, i felt terrible, constantly stressed and overwhelmed, had no energy outside of work, even though it was part time, i didn't even spend any of the money because i was too wiped out.

anyway, rambling, but i'd say if you're feeling depression and anxiety outside of not having a job you are worthwhile to spend the time it takes to work on that! :) dealing with that is a smart investment in your future and i think that anyone that tries to shame you for that is shortsighted and i can't imagine they've ever been depressed or had serious anxiety.


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Being a nudist club, we have to be very careful of creating no controversy. Because of that, there is no public smoking of cannabis. my youngest son was one of the first minors to receive the mmj card years ago. We were hoping with the law changes that he [and everyone else] would be able to smoke outside [we live in a teeny travel trailer, so it always reeks] but, not yet. Many people do smoke on their decks, but we live on the main road. we are family oriented so I can understand why parents with children might be bothered fwith everyone smoking in public. [but, yeah...you could probably find the best herb in the world here. definitely]


If you have horses, I'm packing up my camping gear and heading your way :wink:



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02 Jun 2014, 1:27 pm

Are you going.....to San Francisco? But, instead, this time it's to Colorado! :P



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02 Jun 2014, 1:34 pm

I'm going places, baby! :D

Although I shouldn't be too envious. Kingston is a nice town.



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02 Jun 2014, 1:53 pm

I agree...a very nice town.

I could live there...Except for the winters!



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02 Jun 2014, 2:08 pm

The winters are hard. I don't enjoy them.

So, I've got my intake interview tomorrow morning for the Adult Mental Health Services program, which I didn't even no existed until a week ago. Despite better judgement, I'm hopeful that this may turn out to be helpful. The intake person is going to ask me a bunch of questions and then direct me to the appropriate mental health worker.



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02 Jun 2014, 2:58 pm

I hope everything goes well for you, Ann.

Do they have something like "Vocational Rehabilitation" in Ontario?

One day, you should just do a James Joyce, and just Wing It!



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02 Jun 2014, 5:55 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:
One day, you should just do a James Joyce, and just Wing It!

Maybe I will :D
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My eyes were often full of tears (I could not tell why) and at times a flood from my heart seemed to pour itself out into my bosom. I thought little of the future. I did not know whether I would ever speak to her or not or, if I spoke to her, how I could tell her of my confused adoration. But my body was like a harp and her words and gestures were like fingers running upon the wires.


Can't be that hard. Lol



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02 Jun 2014, 6:41 pm

No horses,but lots of deer, foxes, bears and an occasional mountain lion. There's this one guy, Jack, very handsome [looks like Joe montana]recently single, just started dating a woman but he has not told her that he is a nudist yet. If she is not receptive, he will be single again. I have been trying for 12 years to get him to stop dating barracudas and start dating a nice woman. Maybe that's you?

And as far as a sleeping bag, you could just sleep on our kitchen table [which makes into a bed,but...don't ALL kitchen tables make into a bed?] :wink:

OMG. I hope that doesn't sound weird.