why do women have to be so mean and condecending
Ages ago, when I was trolling the net for women, my wise old grandfather told me to give it up and learn to be happy alone. He said that in his day (he meant like the 1930s, so quite a long time ago) men often married the wrong woman because they had done something stupid like get her pregnant, which back then resulted in "shotgun weddings"-and divorce wasn't an option. He was also worried about some of the same stuff you talk about, where women use sex against men. I was about your age.
Today, I realize he was right. I'm convinced that men have a biological need in their teens and twenties to date and have sex with lots of females in order to choose a mate suitable for reproduction. As men get older, the urge decreases, which may be why married couples stop having sex after 2 or 3 kids-the biological need has been filled. So, at 40 I don't have a need to look for women. I no longer care about biological urges, except in the most basic sense-oops, I am thinking about sex again, better empty the seminal ducts. So, your problem is not unique, and it's due to biology beyond your control.
Women, meanwhile, are wired to choose a mate who will be an excellent provider for their future kids. So, they only want rich men, because money means that they will be able to get food for their kids. This same instinct drives women to want muscular men (oooh, a man who will be able to work and get money!) and even violent men, who are perceived as being great hunters, since in the caveman days the strongest, most violent man was best able to get the meatiest tiger, meaning kids got fed. That he beats and rapes his concubines is of little consequence, since being able to eat well is a greater need.
We just can't wish biology and tens of thousands of years of evolution away, unfortunately. Women earn more than men in many cases, yet they still view themselves as nurturers of children, and men as hunters bringing home the bacon. You have the unfortunate status of beta male, the guy that alpha males and women who love them love to kick. In some cultures, beta males were sacrificed to the gods in some really gruesome ways (I'm thinking of the Aztecs, who would rip the beating hearts out of men's chests), so in some ways you're lucky. In Mormon Fundamentalism, betas are dumped in remote parts of the desert and left as buzzard food. So, chill out and try not to worry too much about human biology.
Like a record that gets stuck in it's track and can't be derailed because it's worn a rut so deep it can't be shaken loose.
Perhaps function is the wrong word.
It feels comfortable in that rut. That's the identity you've spent a lot of time building up for yourself, so of course it feels safe and familiar. Even if you've made yourself into the whiney victim who blames everyone else and has no hope. That's who you choose to be. Do you realise that?
It's all ego - "They (women) are doing this to me! (Poor little me). They're WRONG and I'm RIGHT! (I'm a better person than they are). I cannot see sense because I'm in my nice, deep, worn track of woe. I'm too scared to climb out because that would mean giving up my identity, which I've deluded myself into thinking is me!"
I wish I could bump you out of that track, but I know you won't get it. You're not ready to let go of your misery yet.

yep everything is my fault. we control 100% of everything in the world I make those women say that stuff, yep I have mind control.

leave me alone you're the deluded one who thinkgs you can control evertying in your life. when someone is less off then you its all their fault. that guy who got shot by the sniper well he did that not the sniper.
this is the same logic as saying women deserve to get raped for wearing tiny skirts.
I did my best to be the best person I am. I didn't make all those women say the things they do.
lots of things in life are done by other people. get with reality you don't live on this planet alone so its impossible for you to cause or do everything that happens in your life.
going report your post. as its against haven rules.
Ok.
I hope you find the happiness you deserve.
In the meantime I will try to get a grip on reality.
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A lot of men are like that. But not all of them.
That is exactly what I believed about all men for maybe 35 years. It's a good description of home. Mom used to warn me against love at first sight. My brothers saw women as waitresses etc. If attracted to a guy, I would run for the hills and if he followed, I'd be mean. Anything to save myself from this white-slaver (any man).
I've had years of therapy; it's safe to approach now. I'm only 64.
I truly never believed any man had feelings or could be in good faith. You make me think I should do Step X - Make Retribution - yikes, that a lot of trying remember. But coming out here might be a start.
Advice: If you speak and she doesn't answer, give up immediately.
A lot of men are like that. But not all of them.
That is exactly what I believed about all men for maybe 35 years. It's a good description of home. Mom used to warn me against love at first sight. My brothers saw women as waitresses etc. If attracted to a guy, I would run for the hills and if he followed, I'd be mean. Anything to save myself from this white-slaver (any man).
I've had years of therapy; it's safe to approach now. I'm only 64.
I truly never believed any man had feelings or could be in good faith. You make me think I should do Step X - Make Retribution - yikes, that a lot of trying remember. But coming out here might be a start.
Advice: If you speak and she doesn't answer, give up immediately.
Retribution ?
This is erroneous.
Sly has lots of virtues, I'm sure.
no i relate them saying I'm sub standard and worthless to wanting me to die. they see me as a burden surely me dieing would then free them of that burden
condescending is just mean. its treating people like children. I've noticed women do it a lot when they disagree with you but dont' just say so. they pretend to agree with you in a condecending tone. so you know they don't actually agrree with you. its a mind game meant to confuse and belittle us.
maybe but non of them matter without the high income. many women say I'd make a good bf until they find out I make min wage. so they like that I'm romantic, kind, caring, sweet, cute, funny, and sexual stuff, but all that goes into the trash over income. baffers me how women will have a guy that meets 99% of their wants and refuse him over a single issue, they want perfection.
though some will accept a guy who lacks all the stuff I do as long as he has high income.
to me this is insane. money isnt' important. all the other stuff. you know personality and intersts is the important things. or you might as well just be a whore and exchange sex for money. if you are witha guy who doens't meat the other stuff you want but has money then that's what they'll doing. sure its not outright because you're pretending to have a relationship. but if you exchanging your sex for his income what else is it?
not saying all women do this, but some women even say they give the guy "comfort" for his income. can they really not see it for what it is?
got in a arguement wtih lady over it. shes like the majority of women so I thoght since shes talking to me I could ask her about that stuff and find out whats the min money the majority of women like here would accept but she wont' anwser.
i don't get it. they say they not asshamed of it and they right ot demand it so why act ashamed by not answering.
if you ask me about stuff I do and I'm not asshamed of it I'll tell you. most people will talk about stuff they aren't ashamed of but won't if they are. so is part of her ashamed shes superficial?
I hate to say it, I am a woman, but way too many women do indeed look at income. I remember in high school, anytime I went out with someone, my girlfriends would first ask "what kind of car does he drive?" Then when I left high school and had a job, like in my late 20s, they would STILL ask what kind of car he drove and what he did for a living. My answer was always "I have no freaking idea, who cares?" Yes, I am sure there are women out there that are not like that, but sadly, from my experience MOST women look at income. No, maybe because I am on the spectrum I never gave a s#$%$...My husband made less than 20K a year when we met, I made 3 times that...He had a blue collar job repairing ACs, I had a white collar job and traveled the world. We are still together. I helped him do better because he hated his job at the time. It's been 16 yrs and we are still together. Sometimes I want to STRANGLE HIM lol but not because of his income, but because he's not very good at planning, lives for today only, etc...
I highly suggest you tell women exactly how much you make as soon as you meet them and avoid the BS.
A lot of men are like that. But not all of them.
That is exactly what I believed about all men for maybe 35 years. It's a good description of home. Mom used to warn me against love at first sight. My brothers saw women as waitresses etc. If attracted to a guy, I would run for the hills and if he followed, I'd be mean. Anything to save myself from this white-slaver (any man).
I've had years of therapy; it's safe to approach now. I'm only 64.
I truly never believed any man had feelings or could be in good faith. You make me think I should do Step X - Make Retribution - yikes, that a lot of trying remember. But coming out here might be a start.
Advice: If you speak and she doesn't answer, give up immediately.
Retribution ?
WOW! I meant restitution, of course.
What other darkness still lurks in the depths of my soul?
A lot of men are like that. But not all of them.
That is exactly what I believed about all men for maybe 35 years. It's a good description of home. Mom used to warn me against love at first sight. My brothers saw women as waitresses etc. If attracted to a guy, I would run for the hills and if he followed, I'd be mean. Anything to save myself from this white-slaver (any man).
I've had years of therapy; it's safe to approach now. I'm only 64.
I truly never believed any man had feelings or could be in good faith. You make me think I should do Step X - Make Retribution - yikes, that a lot of trying remember. But coming out here might be a start.
Advice: If you speak and she doesn't answer, give up immediately.
Retribution ?
WOW! I meant restitution, of course.
What other darkness still lurks in the depths of my soul?
hugs. you dont' seem too bad.
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Resentment.
Women had to just sit down and do what they were told for a very long time. Now that it is coming to an end, I think there is a kind of backlash. They view men as the abusive Father that beat their asses and then gave them an ice cream cone. It is nice that the oppression has mostly stopped but it will take a bit more time before the water settles and the wounds heal. I can not think of a group of people that are more hated right now than white males, add a dash of Autism and U. S. policies... well, you get the idea.
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