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Friskeygirl
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22 Aug 2010, 2:35 am

Aww Xenu, you don't like being called out for your rude behavior, that just tough
and Sionis just keep talking, its not like I don't know who you actually are.



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22 Aug 2010, 4:05 am

Xenu wrote:
You are blaming Aspergers for your own laziness and lack of initiative to force yourself to fit in and be likable.


I was going to say something like this myself.

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Yes, I am blaming the AS because it is that what's holding me back. I am nice-natured to people who are nice to me - I am a very nice person, and never mean - what are you talking about?


Now this is laziness in action. I'm sure you are a very nice person (most aspies tend to be - our social awkwardness means we do all we can to keep the friends we do manage to get) but this is utterly irrelevant.

You are using the Aspergers as an excuse. You can't socialise properly, you can't get a job, you can't find a girl/boyfriend, you can't get your own home, you can't learn to drive, etc, etc, etc. ALL UTTER CRAP. You can do any and all of these things. It won't be easy - hell, it's not easy for the norms either - but it can be done. Proof? I've done them all, and I was diagnosed eighteen years ago. There are many others on these boards that have done some or all of these things too.

Now you can sit there and complain that it's different for you, that you're somehow special and this doesn't apply, and this smacks of so much arrogance I may have to retract the "nice person" comment. Or you can do what so many other aspies here have done - actually make an effort, try doing stuff, accepting that it won't always work the first way you try it and trying again.

Now quit whinging and either get on with it or shut up.



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22 Aug 2010, 6:35 am

There's no general responses to anything, specially to the AS condition.

If you have mild AS, a quite good family support, a bit of luck, you have a lot of chances to succeed, marry and have a family, friends, a life which worth you wake up and go for a day. You can end up getting the best from AS and no reason to blame it for anything.

If you have AS, a bipolar\psychotic mother, no family, no money, no friends support, etc (like someone who I know :wink:) things will not be easy for you and the AS will sum up with everything and a little chance to succeed.

Anyway, there's nothing else to be done just try your best, and always remember there's a lot of conditions far worse than AS.

just my 2 cents.


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22 Aug 2010, 11:30 am

Thom_Fuleri wrote:

Now quit whinging and either get on with it or shut up.


I'm going to pretend to laugh at that rude remark, but this thread is called ''Aspergers SUCKS'', which means it is here for Aspies to have a rant about how different they feel through life. If you are on the AS side, then go onto a different thread what is for people who don't mind having it. We all hate having it, so we have every right to whinge about it.

I'm an Aspie who might feel differently about having AS, simply because everyone else in my family are NTs with friends and social lives, while I'm not. And I HAVE tried very. very hard to make and keep friends, but they have bullied me. It is not the Aspie code to say ''just get on with it''. These forums are here for us to open up to eachother about our anxieties and stresses, and to support eachother. I'm just finding life hard because I also suffer from Agoraphobia, Dyspraxia, Social Anxiety, Depression and a heart condition. I'm phoning up a lot of social services but they just don't want to know. And please bare in mind - if you live in Britain you won't get the help you need. If you live in America, you will, because America is ran better. You try coming to Britain for a week - you'll soon find out what complete dicks the government is.

Thanks for the rude comment -might aswell appreciate it.



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22 Aug 2010, 11:34 am

I believe that every Aspie should have the right to end their lives if they choose to.



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22 Aug 2010, 1:06 pm

Thom_Fuleri wrote:
Xenu wrote:
You are blaming Aspergers for your own laziness and lack of initiative to force yourself to fit in and be likable.


I was going to say something like this myself.

Joe90 wrote:
Yes, I am blaming the AS because it is that what's holding me back. I am nice-natured to people who are nice to me - I am a very nice person, and never mean - what are you talking about?


Now this is laziness in action. I'm sure you are a very nice person (most aspies tend to be - our social awkwardness means we do all we can to keep the friends we do manage to get) but this is utterly irrelevant.

You are using the Aspergers as an excuse. You can't socialise properly, you can't get a job, you can't find a girl/boyfriend, you can't get your own home, you can't learn to drive, etc, etc, etc. ALL UTTER CRAP. You can do any and all of these things. It won't be easy - hell, it's not easy for the norms either - but it can be done. Proof? I've done them all, and I was diagnosed eighteen years ago. There are many others on these boards that have done some or all of these things too.

Now you can sit there and complain that it's different for you, that you're somehow special and this doesn't apply, and this smacks of so much arrogance I may have to retract the "nice person" comment. Or you can do what so many other aspies here have done - actually make an effort, try doing stuff, accepting that it won't always work the first way you try it and trying again.

Now quit whinging and either get on with it or shut up.


This is exactly what I wanted to say but didn't know how to say it.



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22 Aug 2010, 1:20 pm

Friskeygirl wrote:
Aww Xenu, you don't like being called out for your rude behavior, that just tough
and Sionis just keep talking, its not like I don't know who you actually are.


I don't know what you mean by saying you know who I actually am. I am a new member here; I have no other existing or previous accounts here on wrongplanet. I think you've mistaken me for someone else. Though you may have encountered me on youtube or another forum as I use the same username everywhere pretty much. Or in Gotham City. I just wonder why you have such a combative personality; you can debate without having to be on the warpath all the time.



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22 Aug 2010, 3:15 pm

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22 Aug 2010, 4:13 pm

Sionis wrote:
Friskeygirl wrote:
Aww Xenu, you don't like being called out for your rude behavior, that just tough
and Sionis just keep talking, its not like I don't know who you actually are.


I don't know what you mean by saying you know who I actually am. I am a new member here; I have no other existing or previous accounts here on wrongplanet. I think you've mistaken me for someone else. Though you may have encountered me on youtube or another forum as I use the same username everywhere pretty much. Or in Gotham City. I just wonder why you have such a combative personality; you can debate without having to be on the warpath all the time.


She maybe thinks you're her stalker?



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22 Aug 2010, 4:22 pm

League_Girl wrote:
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Friskeygirl wrote:
Aww Xenu, you don't like being called out for your rude behavior, that just tough
and Sionis just keep talking, its not like I don't know who you actually are.


I don't know what you mean by saying you know who I actually am. I am a new member here; I have no other existing or previous accounts here on wrongplanet. I think you've mistaken me for someone else. Though you may have encountered me on youtube or another forum as I use the same username everywhere pretty much. Or in Gotham City. I just wonder why you have such a combative personality; you can debate without having to be on the warpath all the time.


She maybe thinks you're her stalker?


Oh yeah her imaginary stalker... I can't believe people (including mods) actually believe that story -_-.



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22 Aug 2010, 7:00 pm

League_Girl wrote:
Sionis wrote:
Friskeygirl wrote:
Aww Xenu, you don't like being called out for your rude behavior, that just tough
and Sionis just keep talking, its not like I don't know who you actually are.


I don't know what you mean by saying you know who I actually am. I am a new member here; I have no other existing or previous accounts here on wrongplanet. I think you've mistaken me for someone else. Though you may have encountered me on youtube or another forum as I use the same username everywhere pretty much. Or in Gotham City. I just wonder why you have such a combative personality; you can debate without having to be on the warpath all the time.


She maybe thinks you're her stalker?


I assure you I am not; I have no other accounts here. Maybe is that why Friskey is on the defense?



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22 Aug 2010, 8:11 pm

@xenu It really did happen and she has posted screen shots about it. Even the stalker has admitted he does it. Then Quatermass did some detective work and found out the person was this other person because he saw what other accounts he has had.

@sionis I think anyone who replies negatively to her posts she might think you are his sockpuppet.



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23 Aug 2010, 9:29 am

Thom_Fuleri wrote:
actually make an effort.


I have made an effort - this is the problem. I've passed my driving test, I'm on job-seekers benifits, I do voluntary work at a charity shop every day just so I can experience the world a bit and mix with other people (making friends, in other words). For 10 years I haven't been thinking anything at all about AS, until this very year - when I first noticed the Wrong Planet forums. I've now got a chance to open up to other Aspies about my depression and MAJOR anxieties and other major difficulties I have. Don't forget - I'm only a youngster, so I haven't quite got to the stage where I've actually moved out, married and got an independant life - although I'm trying to reach this goal. Every day I'm trying and trying, and everyone says I have inproved in the last 5 or 6 years.

I'm not using AS as an excuse to be lazy and not do anything with my life. You got it wrong. I am blaming my major anxieties on AS because if I didn't have the AS, the major anxieties wouldn't be effecting me the way they do.



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23 Aug 2010, 11:24 am

I sometimes wish i was an NT but, i then think if i was an NT i would never have figured out how screwed up the world is and i never would have known so to speak the "truth" about many things, i mean if i was an NT i would be going about talking about useless things caring about clothes and who did this and why, when i should be doing what im doing now studying, learning, and figuring everything out :)


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23 Aug 2010, 12:25 pm

I sometimes wish I didn't have it.



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23 Aug 2010, 7:33 pm

I can very much relate to this topic.